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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.16 19:11:00 -
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As much as I don't like the change, at this point, with all the time and effort put in to negate the effect, i would almost not like a rollback
Adapt or die |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.20 00:27:00 -
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Dimaxx wrote:Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Blueprint PE/TE=0 Research PE to +10% (max) need (with my perfect skills) on station 31d 16h and 703.452.239 ISK!!! Wut? Damn cheap BPO need ~3/4 bil ISK for research?  double facepalm
amounts for job costs are broken |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:12:00 -
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Pic'n dor wrote:
I'm a little bothered with the conversion of ME and TE.
A ME2 BP will be converted in a ME6 BP (from what i see in the sisi client)
preME2 was 3.3% waste and postME6 is 6%
So for a 1000 material needed
Previously, you needed 1033 material. Now it's 1111.111111111...... x0.94 wich is 1044,44444.
Replace the word material with Capital part and you get my point.....
Unless the BP is perfect ME, manufacturing is more expensive in this SiSi build.
Shouldn't preME2 be a postME7 ? (1111.11111111 *.93 = 1033.333)
Do i miss something ?
Yeah, your new ME assumption is wrong
ME0 = 10% waste
ME1 = 9% waste
ME2 = 8% waste
ME3 = 7% waste
ME4 = 6% waste
ME5 = 5% waste
ME6 = 4% waste
ME7 = 3% waste
ME8 = 2% waste
ME9 = 1% waste
ME10 = 0% waste
Your conversion is wrong also
Old ME2 = New ME7
3.3% waste goes to 3% waste
ie - NO BPO/BPC gets worse
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.21 18:47:00 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:
ie - NO BPO/BPC gets worse
I have not checked in the last three days. But this is, so far not true as far as i can tell. Perhaps that is the intended function, but it is not how SiSI is behaving.
Notice what I said...it IS true
I NEVER said the new BPO/BPC doesn't use more materials due to conversion and rounding errors.....
There is a difference |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
77
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:02:00 -
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Pic'n dor wrote:I could have if it was possible : From : https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Research_and_manufacturingThe ME scale of BP : ML0 - 10% ML1 - 5% ML2 - 3.3% ML3 - 2.5% ML10 - 0.9% ML50 - 0.2% So, you can only get ME0%/5%/7%/8%, but i got a stock pile of ME6% ... IMHO : 1- Rounding formulas gone wrong 2-Intended feature to make things a little bit harder for us.. And a tiny lie in the devblog... preME2 > postME6 is a loss of BP efficiency...
6% BPC is ME4
Please use terminology so we all understand please
Also, what was the BPC on TQ prior to conversion
what bpc, what ME/PE etc. the more info the better
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.23 12:05:00 -
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Thenin wrote:now with using only one run from a T1 BPC to invent a T2 BPC it should be possible to allow multi run invention jobs. Is that planned in the near future?
It has been hinted at, as far as that this is kinda the first step in invention and that might be the second... ie put in a 10 run BPC and do 10 invention jobs in a row, but no one has come out and said it as far as I know
I think it is more along the lines of that is what they are envisioning for this post Crius invention overhaul, but they haven't looked f it is possible or feasible yet. |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.07.08 05:11:00 -
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Josclyn Verreuil wrote:Grenn Putubi wrote:
Another issue I started thinking about and haven't seen a definite CCP response to yet is how they're going to deal with BPOs that are installed for research when the conversion happens. Will the jobs be cancelled and the BPOs returned to where they came from or will they be allowed to complete first and then delivered to the intended destination? Will they be converted to the new system before or after the job completes? If I install a job the night before the patch to take a bpo from 0 to 10ME and the job's going to take 15 days, will the job complete in 15 days and deliver a 10ME bpo to me? What if the job is queued to start after the patch? Say I queue a job to start after that first bpo to take another bpo from 5 to 10 ME and that job's gonna take another 15 days, hogging up that research line for 30 days...will it start after the first job completes even tho there won't be a job queue system anymore? Will the queued job be cancelled and the bpo returned to me? Will it just begin immediately after the patch finishes and run concurrently with the first job so they both deliver at the same time? Will the job times be adjusted to the new system and that 15day job be converted to a 2 or 3 month job and follow the new time scale along with the new research ratings?
Looking forward to an answer on this one. There are quite a few folks furiously trying to research BPOs to 10/10 before Crius hits, and I'm quite curious what will happen to prints that are baking when it goes live.
Asked and Answered like 65875875768548646754764764567 times already
All jobs will complete as they are currently scheduled
All BPO's will return to where they were when the job started
ALL conversion from old ME/PE to new ME/TE will happen AFTER the job completion at the new researched number |
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