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Osyc
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Osyc on 13/06/2006 13:32:43
Situation: some poor unsuspecting soul mentions that they have fitted x number of 200mm Autocannons <insert flavor variety here> as a preference. Invariably rolling-eye emoticons and ô150mm FTW!ö follow. I see the ædoÆ, but not the æwhyÆ.
The only detriment I see to the 200Æs in comparison is the higher fitting requirements and lower ammo volume. Unless my math is completely skewed (a distinct possibility mind you), they appear to have a higher damage potential over time, an almost insignificant increase in ROF and a better Optimal. And with the upcoming static changes, the ammo hopper difference becomes a moot point.
Granted, the fitting difference is not insignificant. But with mediocre skills it becomes rather a non-issue.
What am I missing here?
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:35:00 -
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It's the lower ammo volume. If you work in reload time, 150mm's actually ends up having better dps than 200mm's. This is being fixed in the upcoming static update.
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Kelador Stormwolf
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kelador Stormwolf on 13/06/2006 13:41:29
Probably something to do with the tracking speed, which for close range turrets is a very important factor. (150mm A/C cover 0.35rad/sec & 200mm cover 0.315rad/sec). The dps is irrelevant if you can't keep the target squarely in your gunsights.
The differences in ammo magazine size contribute to the dps over time, given the reloading time is constant for all guns too.
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Cadiz
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:41:00 -
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Basically, the increased dps 200mm autocannons enjoy over 150mms is so negligible compared to the loss of tracking, smaller ammo capacity, and increased fitting requirements that it makes them a rather unappealing choice.
Next patch should help this a bit with the 50% increased ammo capacity on all top-tier autocannons, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of people stick with their mid-range guns like it is currently.
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Max Teranous
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:43:00 -
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Currently the 200mm's reload twice as much as the 150mm's, which kicks their theoretical slight dps advantage right in the pants. Add in lower fitting and better tracking, and that's why many use 150mm's.
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Osyc
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Osyc on 13/06/2006 13:46:33
Edited by: Osyc on 13/06/2006 13:46:01
No sarcasm whatsoever in the asking here:
I understand ACÆs are a knife-fighter fitting, so tracking is essential. But is a tracking difference of 0.035rad/sec truly that significant?
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:46:00 -
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wasnt the ammo capacity of 200s buffed?
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Osyc
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:19:00 -
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Yes. Purportedly the 200Æs will get a 50% hopper increase in the statics update.
I can absolutely see the points above as valid. I suppose I am wondering at this point if the reload times are taken out of the equation, donÆt these two weapons become essentially equals? Higher damage potential outweighing slightly reduced tracking and more power/cpu-thirsty fittings?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:25:00 -
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Im using the dual 180's myself since the very low fitting requirements & higher tracking is worth more to me than the minor extra damage i get from higher level projectiles. This leaves room for all sorts of cool setups. 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:28:00 -
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in my wolf with most navigation skills maxed i do actually less dps with 200's then with 150's and i am not even factoring the reload time
why? i get more misses with 200's and the quality of hits is on average better with 150's
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:33:00 -
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apart from the dps max pointed out fitting 150mm's leaves more room for a (bigger)plate, wich is usually the deciding factor in frig/inty combat
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