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DrakeStone	Posted - 2006.06.14 12:45:00 - [1] Can someone tell me who has Exhumers to level 5, what their resistances are across the board in this ship?
Hehulk	Posted - 2006.06.14 12:49:00 - [2] Exhumer 5 doesn't affect resistances on any of the exhumers ---------- Please choose one signature image, as per the forum rules. - Teblin
DrakeStone	Posted - 2006.06.14 12:51:00 - [3] Edited by: DrakeStone on 14/06/2006 12:52:41 Shows how much I know.. replace Exhumer with Mining Barge.
Marcsen	Posted - 2006.06.14 13:04:00 - [4] Same resistances as stated on market. As with all T2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills, they are already included in the base stats. ---[D¦]---
DrakeStone	Posted - 2006.06.14 16:11:00 - [5] Ahh, ofcourse. Thanks.
ELECTR0FREAK	Posted - 2006.06.14 16:18:00 - [6] I've been told that the Hulk can tank a typical low bounty battleship spawn in 0.0 with the proper setup. Obviously a dangerous thing to do with such an expensive ship. I know someone with the Hulk BPO, and he sure as heck has no trouble getting them sold. -Electrofreak Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
Amaril	Posted - 2006.06.14 16:42:00 - [7] With two faction hardeners, gisti a-type small booster, and a domination shield boost amp (not always needed but doesn't hurt), a Hulk can tank dual BS spawns or 3 BC/dessie spawns without a problem. You can remove the amp for any spawn if you have a friend willing to use medium or large shield maintenance drones on you. This is on Angel rats in 0.0 btw, other areas should be even easier. ;) --------- Want to purchase a T2 Ice Mining Barge, the Mackinaw? Contact me ingame via EVEmail or check out the Heimatar market.
Jallen	Posted - 2006.06.14 17:12:00 - [8] Yep, I've actually tanked triple high admirals in serp space. However it's usually 2 hulks in the gang and we're using vespas to kill the rats.
madaluap	Posted - 2006.06.14 18:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Jallen Yep, I've actually tanked triple high admirals in serp space. However it's usually 2 hulks in the gang and we're using vespas to kill the rats. I see, drop me a mail so i can join in my hulk _________________________________________________
Mike Yagon	Posted - 2006.06.15 09:00:00 - [10] Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Jallen Yep, I've actually tanked triple high admirals in serp space. However it's usually 2 hulks in the gang and we're using vespas to kill the rats. I see, drop me a mail so i can join in my hulk And your hulk only just happens to look like a certain gallente battleship?
Minama	Posted - 2006.06.15 10:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Marcsen Same resistances as stated on market. As with all T2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills, they are already included in the base stats. Are you shure about that, doesnt make sence for the vulture atleas: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/ships/commandships/caldari/22446.asp Ship description: Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret optimal range and 5% bonus to all shield resistances per level Secondary Skill Requirments: Battlecruisers V Shield resists: hield em damage resistance 0 % hield explosive damage resistance 60 % shield kinetic damage resistance 70 % shield thermal damage resistance 80 % [SLI]Minama Missiles are dull, rails are teh fun !
Mike Yagon	Posted - 2006.06.15 10:18:00 - [12] Edited by: Mike Yagon on 15/06/2006 10:18:08 Curious indeed, EM and Explosive changed 0%, while Kinetic got increased by 75% and Thermal even 400%.
infraX	Posted - 2006.06.15 10:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Marcsen Same resistances as stated on market. As with all T2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills, they are already included in the base stats. You sir are wrong I'm afraid. The Eagle requires Caldari Cruiser level 5 and gets 5% bonus to shield resistances per level of that skill. The stats as listed on the market: http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/ships/heavyassaultships/caldari/12011.asp does NOT include this bonus as you said. So the OP had a perfectly valid question.
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2006.06.15 10:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Marcsen Same resistances as stated on market. As with all T2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills, they are already included in the base stats. Not true. Check out any amarr ship that has a resistance bonus (Prophecy, Punisher, Sacrilege etc) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Ricka Bronzar	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:21:00 - [15] You sure Lord WarATron as that would then mean the Sacrilege has the following. Without any hardeners or anything. 85% EM resist 105% Ex resist :/ 87.5% Kin resist 60% thermal resist But if the stats on market place dont include these then the resists are the same for the amarr HACS. Confused :/
Alpdruck	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Lord WarATron Originally by: Marcsen Same resistances as stated on market. As with all T2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills, they are already included in the base stats. Not true. Check out any amarr ship that has a resistance bonus (Prophecy, Punisher, Sacrilege etc) True. He wrote: "t2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills". Not "ships that give boni on skills.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Ricka Bronzar Edited by: Ricka Bronzar on 15/06/2006 11:28:59 You sure Lord WarATron as that would then mean the Sacrilege has the following. Without any hardeners or anything. 85% EM resist 105% Ex resist :/ 87.5% Kin resist 60% thermal resist Which would also mean the elite exhumer Hulk would have the following. 75% EM resist 112.5% Ex resist 100% Kin resist 87.5% therm resist I'd love to have those stats :/ but I cant see how that can be But if the stats on market place dont include these then the resists are the same for the amarr HACS. Confused :/ sigh Lets say you have 60% EM resistance, and then whether by skill or module it gets a bonus of 25% to it. You do not simply add 60% to 25%, you remove 25% of what is left to be hardened. An example: Hardened: 60% Unhardened: 100% - 60% = 40% Bonus: 25% Amount to harden: 40% - 25% = 0.4 * 0.25 = 0.1 = 10% Final: 60% + 10% = 70% _________________________________ Make Khanid Useful!
The Cosmopolite	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Alpdruck Originally by: Lord WarATron Originally by: Marcsen Same resistances as stated on market. As with all T2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills, they are already included in the base stats. Not true. Check out any amarr ship that has a resistance bonus (Prophecy, Punisher, Sacrilege etc) True. He wrote: "t2 ships that give boni on required level 5 skills". Not "ships that give boni on skills. Still not true for the Sacrilege. It's T2, requires Amarr Cruiser V and that skill gives a subtantial resistance bonus to the Sac that is not reflected in base stats. It's a special case because the Sac inherits a resistance bonus that its T1 hull, the Maller, had and HACs have a high base resist across the board with no bonus. That's quite different to the Assault Frigate resistance bonuses that get absorbed into the base stats. Their T1 hulls never had those bonuses. Cosmo Jericho Fraction
DrakeStone	Posted - 2006.06.15 14:30:00 - [19] Edited by: DrakeStone on 15/06/2006 14:35:52 Does anyone the answer to my original question? Referencing other ships won't really get the specific answer to the question at hand: What are the resists of the Hulk with Mining Barge to level 5?
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.15 14:35:00 - [20] Edited by: Sarmaul on 15/06/2006 14:35:48 Originally by: DrakeStone Edited by: DrakeStone on 15/06/2006 14:32:12 Does anyone the answer to my original question? Referencing other ships won't really get the specific answer to the question at hand: What are the resists of the Hulk with Mining Barge to level 5? What it lists in the Item Database. In fact, you've already thanked someone for answering at the start of the thread. Make Khanid Useful!

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