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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.14 23:40:00 -
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As pointed out earlier by another player, these security missions include both Encounter and Combat Missions.
This was mentionned in the : Which Level 3 Missions are the Easiest ones? thread in this forum.
I will now try to add records for some data related to those missions, including : 1st - The Standing gained, whether Corporate Standing or Faction Standing. (This doesn't include agent Standing, although related, for some reasons which I'll explain below.) - Ship Fittings. (Including amount of Ammo, Drones details, etc..) - Was the mission done with other teammate of fleet members. If not, why not. - The Rewards amounts in ISK. (Including bonus offers and details.) - The LP gained. - Any other data or details related to the missions. - (of course there are more points which will come up.)
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Damon Messer
Order Of the Phoenix Society
17
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Posted - 2014.06.15 01:19:00 -
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or idk, check http://eve-survival.org |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.06.15 01:24:00 -
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EVE-Survival : MissionReports
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
829
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Posted - 2014.06.15 02:49:00 -
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Corporate standing gain/loss is a percentage of the difference between your CURRENT standing (before connections skill is taking into account) and +1.0 or -1.0 and it therefore changes with your standings. The amount is also dependant on the current level of your social skill.
If you are tracking LP note that the LP gained is higher in lower security systems. For example 0.5 agents give almost twice the LP of 1.0 agents. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.06.15 03:05:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Corporate standing gain/loss is a percentage of the difference between your CURRENT standing (before connections skill is taking into account) and +1.0 or -1.0 and it therefore changes with your standings. The amount is also dependant on the current level of your social skill.
If you are tracking LP note that the LP gained is higher in lower security systems. For example 0.5 agents give almost twice the LP of 1.0 agents. That's nice, you get the best info again. Should I hire you for some mission agent work or something? Maybe we should make a new corp..?
What do you mean by +1.0 or -1.0 Corporate Standing?
As for the LP , I didn't know, but I know better than to do low sec mission without scouts or enough to defend myself. I do my mission in 0.5 for now until I reach level 4. Then I will go to the 2 or more Agents level 4 in High sec.
In that last pirate mission, there was scrambler although they were easy to kill. You don't want to get caught unable to warp off when that happens. Some mission may have a use for Warp Stabilizers.
One more thing I want to add and almost forgot: - I am not sure if there were changes to the Ammo's damage types but now, all do Thermal and Kinetic damage only. The only way I get to do EM damage or Explosive is with Drones.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2100
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Posted - 2014.06.15 03:07:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote: SOE LP, 4228 Available (but not showing since 10 x Combat Scanner Probe I are required or 10 x Core Scanner Probe ) for 1,800 SOE LP 10 x Sisters Combat Scanner Probe 10 x Sisters Core Probe Scanner ISK Cost: 1,200,000 ISK
Next up are the Basic Implants (+3) of which I need 3 more. They are listed as: 5,250 LP. And cost 5,250,000 ISK. (cheaper than at Market rates.)
Don't spend SoE LP on implants. Seriously. If you're short probes... hell, I'll gift you 10. I should have them laying around in Simela. The return on SoE-specific items is just miles ahead of generic things like implants that any LP store can get you.
There are just so many odd disconnects in this thread. I'm not even sure where to start.
Edit: dead serious on the probes. If you want them, send a mail. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.06.15 03:33:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Lar Tadaruwa wrote: SOE LP, 4228 Available (but not showing since 10 x Combat Scanner Probe I are required or 10 x Core Scanner Probe ) for 1,800 SOE LP 10 x Sisters Combat Scanner Probe 10 x Sisters Core Probe Scanner ISK Cost: 1,200,000 ISK
Next up are the Basic Implants (+3) of which I need 3 more. They are listed as: 5,250 LP. And cost 5,250,000 ISK. (cheaper than at Market rates.)
Don't spend SoE LP on implants. Seriously. If you're short probes... hell, I'll gift you 10. I should have them laying around in Simela. The return on SoE-specific items is just miles ahead of generic things like implants that any LP store can get you. There are just so many odd disconnects in this thread. I'm not even sure where to start. Edit: dead serious on the probes. If you want them, send a mail. No, I just listed them here, because different corp station have different LP offers. It's for when I will need the probes for Exploration or combat scanning. I should then be able to deduce where and how to find them.
I did spend SoE LP on implants and it improved my learning speed. I have 3 jump clones though and should have jumped to keep my +2 and +1 implants but I unplugged them. It saved me the time to learn 24 hours without implants.
I guess the best thing to do is to 1. jump to a fresh clone with no implants. 2. Plug the +3 or +2 implants relevant to the skill learned. 3. Wait 24 hours to do it with the last JC. or get more +2 or +3 implants to fill up the new clone.
I am short on ingame liquid ISK although I have 24m in estimated value for items one station hangar. I think the only station I have nothing is the Poteque (looks like Pot tech, are these guys hydro or what?).
I could sell the SoE probes for more cash though.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8016
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:39:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Don't spend SoE LP on implants. Seriously. If you're short probes... hell, I'll gift you 10. I should have them laying around in Simela. The return on SoE-specific items is just miles ahead of generic things like implants that any LP store can get you.
There are just so many odd disconnects in this thread. I'm not even sure where to start. Completely agree, especially SOE mission hubs are often heavily pirated, more than any other mission hub. It's only worth it to get the special SOE items, then just go someplace else to mission quietly for the common items. Even if running cargo ships passing by, best to stay clear. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:43:00 -
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Well, I needed implants and got them. Just because I am being suggested otherwise doesn't mean I had any other means to get those implants. I didn't need anything else from the Sisters of EVE to be honest.
As one player suggested, I only want to get contradiction, when I don't. I'm being contradicted with suggestions that are of no use to me for the most part. I'm also being suggested that I should feel bad to do so, even though it saves my ships and pods. What else, it may even save my life and my family's life too.
There are more and more words of war in the air.
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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
267
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:53:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:There are just so many odd disconnects in this thread. I'm not even sure where to start.
You can say that again, sister.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8017
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:57:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Well, I needed implants and got them. Just because I am being suggested otherwise doesn't mean I had any other means to get those implants. I didn't need anything else from the Sisters of EVE to be honest.
As one player suggested, I only want to get contradiction, when I don't. I'm being contradicted with suggestions that are of no use to me for the most part. I'm also being suggested that I should feel bad to do so, even though it saves my ships and pods. What else, it may even save my life and my family's life too.
There are more and more words of war in the air. Hmm? I don't understand. It's an alt... you dump ISK on it and train. Farming low level missions for LP is a waste of time imo. I started a new alt last month, dumped 100m on it to get started, which was more than enough. Agonizing over low level LP farming is sort of a wast of time. All these replies seem more helpful, not words of war... quite odd.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2101
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:58:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Well, I needed implants and got them.
Hey, it's your game.
The general suggestion, in case it didn't make sense, is this: Use the relatively high conversion rate SoE LP to get items that sell well. Use the proceeds to buy what you need from people who cash out relatively poor conversion LP. You end up with the same stuff plus extra cash in your pocket.
But like I said, it's your game. Play as you will. Reject all the friendly advice you want. We really are trying to help, but if it seems useless to you -- well, that's fine. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.06.15 05:20:00 -
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Webvan wrote: Hmm? I don't understand. It's an alt... you dump ISK on it and train. Farming low level missions for LP is a waste of time imo.
I didn't do it for LP, I'm testing how to get to level 4 to verify the income and feasibility ratio, both technical, financial and other.
Webvan wrote: I started a new alt last month, dumped 100m on it to get started, which was more than enough.
700m on mine +.
Webvan wrote: Agonizing over low level LP farming is sort of a wast of time. All these replies seem more helpful, not words of war... quite odd.
The words of war are not in this thread but in the air. War not words is a good expression to relate to that. I am not a legal expert (yet, even though shortly) , but I am aware of business clauses in regards to enemies.
It seems more honest and less hypocrite.
I'm searching in the -ñ-+-Ç-â-+-ï -+-¦ -Ç-â-ü-ü-¦-+-+ -Å-+-ï-¦-¦ (forums in russian) and find nothing mentioned there, not even a password.
Yes, I don't sell those, no sales skill on this pilot. I could post the items in contracts.
As for the war , it gets more and more real , and I very likely won't play much or reactivate for a while.
The terms are not friendly and it will also interfere against my marriage and make it harder though possible with international law. This is better addressed in the Out of Pod forum but is confirmed publicly since June 5, 2014 by NATO command.
I understand not all players are from there, but still...
Confidence is earned, and trust is sacred. I could make many more very big mistakes to offer sacred trust to untrustworthy suggestions. It seems trustworthy to cause damage if relied on for killboard rights.
If I don't filter through the material it is toxic to me. Even the cost of filtering is too high for me. I have to focus on more pure exactitude to balance my high test costs.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8017
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Posted - 2014.06.15 06:18:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Webvan wrote: Hmm? I don't understand. It's an alt... you dump ISK on it and train. Farming low level missions for LP is a waste of time imo.
I didn't do it for LP, I'm testing how to get to level 4 to verify the income and feasibility ratio, both technical, financial and other. Webvan wrote: I started a new alt last month, dumped 100m on it to get started, which was more than enough.
700m on mine +. Webvan wrote: Agonizing over low level LP farming is sort of a wast of time. All these replies seem more helpful, not words of war... quite odd.
The words of war are not in this thread but in the air. War not words is a good expression to relate to that. I am not a legal expert (yet, even though shortly) , but I am aware of business clauses in regards to enemies. It seems more honest and less hypocrite. I'm searching in the -ñ-+-Ç-â-+-ï -+-¦ -Ç-â-ü-ü-¦-+-+ -Å-+-ï-¦-¦ (forums in russian) and find nothing mentioned there, not even a password. Yes, I don't sell those, no sales skill on this pilot. I could post the items in contracts. As for the war , it gets more and more real , and I very likely won't play much or reactivate for a while. The terms are not friendly and it will also interfere against my marriage and make it harder though possible with international law. This is better addressed in the Out of Pod forum but is confirmed publicly since June 5, 2014 by NATO command. I understand not all players are from there, but still... Confidence is earned, and trust is sacred. I could make many more very big mistakes to offer sacred trust to untrustworthy suggestions. It seems trustworthy to cause damage if relied on for killboard rights. If I don't filter through the material it is toxic to me. Even the cost of filtering is too high for me. I have to focus on more pure exactitude to balance my high test costs. Ohh yes yes yes of course. Actually something my fellow countrymen want nothing to do with, not to be involved in at all, the majority here (US). And many of my peers I fear really don't have a complete understanding of the situation other than what certain mainstream news outlets tell them and nothing more. Quite disturbing, yes. There is just a lot of motivation over the history of the region for those there, and people here seem to forget that and then don't understand why. Well hopefully it doesn't come to anything with global reach.
But anyway, on the topic, 700m+ seems like a high cost to start an alt up to the point you are at. 100m for me was plenty since I'm not compensating the lack of SP with more expensive ship fittings. So having more SP means that less ISK needed spent on the ship etc. But that is just for low-SP training, then when complete the alt goes into FW and can hopefully self-sustain. About the only thing I'll add after training is a stack of ready-fit pvp ships.
But really, when it comes to lvl3 missions, most of the interest is on two primary points 1. Standing gains, and 2. getting to lvl4 missions as fast as possible. I suppose those two points can be related, but in reality, if someone already can do lvl4 missions, doing lbl3 missions provide the fastest standings gain. But compared to LP or ISK earnings, they are very-very low compared to lvl4 missions, so most don't care about those points.
That's really the difference between lvl3 and lvl4 at least. Within the frame of lvl3 missions, related to themselves, some harder and some easy, the differences in LP and ISK gains are marginal, hardly worth the difference to note. lvl4 missions it can be a bit different, such as ISK gains in 0.5 security space it can range form around 2 million ISK to over 30 million ISK per mission. And not even counting the LP differences which can be quite large. But standings gains are not as good compared to lvl3 missions that can be done very quickly, so many turn to lvl3 missions to grind standings beyond what lvl4 missions can offer at the slower pace. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.06.15 15:24:00 -
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Webvan wrote: Ohh yes yes yes of course. Actually something my fellow countrymen want nothing to do with, not to be involved in at all, the majority here (US). And many of my peers I fear really don't have a complete understanding of the situation other than what certain mainstream news outlets tell them and nothing more. Quite disturbing, yes. There is just a lot of motivation over the history of the region for those there, and people here seem to forget that and then don't understand why. Well hopefully it doesn't come to anything with global reach.
But anyway, on the topic, 700m+ seems like a high cost to start an alt up to the point you are at. 100m for me was plenty since I'm not compensating the lack of SP with more expensive ship fittings. So having more SP means that less ISK needed spent on the ship etc. But that is just for low-SP training, then when complete the alt goes into FW and can hopefully self-sustain. About the only thing I'll add after training is a stack of ready-fit pvp ships.
But really, when it comes to lvl3 missions, most of the interest is on two primary points 1. Standing gains, and 2. getting to lvl4 missions as fast as possible. I suppose those two points can be related, but in reality, if someone already can do lvl4 missions, doing lbl3 missions provide the fastest standings gain. But compared to LP or ISK earnings, they are very-very low compared to lvl4 missions, so most don't care about those points.
That's really the difference between lvl3 and lvl4 at least. Within the frame of lvl3 missions, related to themselves, some harder and some easy, the differences in LP and ISK gains are marginal, hardly worth the difference to note. lvl4 missions it can be a bit different, such as ISK gains in 0.5 security space it can range form around 2 million ISK to over 30 million ISK per mission. And not even counting the LP differences which can be quite large. But standings gains are not as good compared to lvl3 missions that can be done very quickly, so many turn to lvl3 missions to grind standings beyond what lvl4 missions can offer at the slower pace.
I won't take the luxury of reading your post before replying but my name is from the USA. Good or bad, take it or leave it. (I will and am reading it, and will try to add something more positive to it. I don't and can't guarantee I can fix everything.)
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2014.06.15 18:07:00 -
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Fitting: Dominix Salvage Hi: 6 x Salvager I (, F2, 3, 4, 5... F6)
Med: - Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I (, F1) - 4 x Medium Brief Capacitor Overcharge I (4 x 2 Cap Booster 400, Alt-F5, 6, 7... Alt-F8)
Lo: - Damage Control I (Ctrl-F1) - Large Automated Carapace Restoration (Ctrl-F2) - Reactive Armor Hardener (Ctrl-F3) - Expanded Cargohold II - 3 x Drone Damage Amplifiier I
Drones: 375.0 / max in ratios of exactly precise measurements (+/- 0.1, no 'n' there) - 1 x Acolyte I (20 EM damage) - 6 x Hammerhead I (Thermal) - 3 x Infiltrator I (32 EM damage) - 8 x Infiltrator I (32 EM damage) - 2 x Ogre I (Thermal) - 3 x Praetor I (EM) - 3 x Wasp I (64 HP Kinetic damage)
Cargo Bay: (725 units in cubic meters {m^3} , 600 without expanders) - 15 x Cap Booster 400) - 725 Antimatter Charge L - 772 Antimatter Charge M - J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Edit: Loot: 101 items ; 8,270,000 ISK Est. price
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
830
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Posted - 2014.06.15 22:30:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Fitting:
I'm going to accept the Storyline mission. I was also offered a mission from the Level 3 agent although I didn't request it which is wrong. It expires at the the same time. I'm stoping 4 jumps away on the way to buy 2 things. A Kinetic Hardener which I didn't have for 130k and some Minmatar Drones for Explosive damage.
Edit 13: Storyline Accepted
Security agents automatically offer a mission if it is part of a series of missions. For example if you complete Recon 1 you are offered Recon 2 automatically. Security missions give Corp Standing.
Storyline agents offer you a mission every time you complete 16 normal security missions. Storyline missions give Faction Standing. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.06.15 22:57:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Fitting:
I'm going to accept the Storyline mission. I was also offered a mission from the Level 3 agent although I didn't request it which is wrong. It expires at the the same time. I'm stoping 4 jumps away on the way to buy 2 things. A Kinetic Hardener which I didn't have for 130k and some Minmatar Drones for Explosive damage.
Edit 13: Storyline Accepted Security agents automatically offer a mission if it is part of a series of missions. For example if you complete Recon 1 you are offered Recon 2 automatically. Security missions give Corp Standing. Storyline agents offer you a mission every time you complete 16 normal security missions. Storyline missions give Faction Standing. Yeh! I give you another million ISK.!!
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2014.06.16 14:47:00 -
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I have no idea how to interpret this thread.
This looks just like the guy cataloging his every move in the SoE epic arc 2 weeks ago. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
269
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Posted - 2014.06.16 16:11:00 -
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I like how you turn your Armor Hardeners and both Reppers on as soon as you land on grid. "I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion." |
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
468
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Posted - 2014.06.16 16:53:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Edit 2 @ 15:58:I'm now offered : Gone Berserk, Level 3EoM The Equilibrium of Mankind (typically referred to as EoM) is an Amarrian terrorist death-cult faction... Which seems to be too hard although I have almost 2 hours to complete it and rake it in. The cost of completion is not worth it to me since it costs me more than the reward, time, etc. I would get more from just getting PLEX and honest trading. But I'm still counting and trying to get more exact details. I don't want anything to disturb me even more from arriving at those exact mathematical findings. What? Gone Berserk is one of the best missions you can get. Not only are the pay and standings gains good but its a really easy mission. You can even blitz it by only killing one of the spawn chains and ignoring the other two.
All the rats spawn at about the same distance from you so they are easy to pick apart and they do almost all kinetic damage with a little bit of thermal so they are easy to tank. I don't see how it could get any easier. A HAM Ceberus or Tengu will absolutely destroy this mission. Any sentry boat like the Dominix/Navy Vexor/Myrmidon will also easily solo this.
Edit: If you are having trouble with this mission post your fit and I'm sure the people here will be happy to advise you on how to improve it. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1061
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Posted - 2014.06.16 17:06:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Edit: If you are having trouble with this mission post your fit and I'm sure the people here will be happy to advise you on how to improve it.
Don't ask for his fit, he will block you after a long post regarding how your trying to derail his plans.
If you look back a few posts you can see his fully T1 fitted and T1 light drones Dominix, but telling him to change training results in a similar response, followed by the 'I will block you' comment.
I can't imagine having the patience to spend 2 hours in a Lvl-3 mission, for a couple 100k ISK, so at least he has patience going for him.
Good luck trying to get through to him.
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
468
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Posted - 2014.06.16 17:11:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Edit: If you are having trouble with this mission post your fit and I'm sure the people here will be happy to advise you on how to improve it.
Don't ask for his fit, he will block you after a long post regarding how your trying to derail his plans. If you look back a few posts you can see his fully T1 fitted and T1 light drones Dominix, but telling him to change training results in a similar response, followed by the 'I will block you' comment. I can't imagine having the patience to spend 2 hours in a Lvl-3 mission, for a couple 100k ISK, so at least he has patience going for him. Good luck trying to get through to him. Your right its the same guy. How did I miss that. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:48:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Edit 2 @ 15:58:I'm now offered : Gone Berserk, Level 3EoM The Equilibrium of Mankind (typically referred to as EoM) is an Amarrian terrorist death-cult faction... Which seems to be too hard although I have almost 2 hours to complete it and rake it in. The cost of completion is not worth it to me since it costs me more than the reward, time, etc. I would get more from just getting PLEX and honest trading. But I'm still counting and trying to get more exact details. I don't want anything to disturb me even more from arriving at those exact mathematical findings. What? Gone Berserk is one of the best missions you can get. Not only are the pay and standings gains good but its a really easy mission. You can even blitz it by only killing one of the spawn chains and ignoring the other two. All the rats spawn at about the same distance from you so they are easy to pick apart and they do almost all kinetic damage with a little bit of thermal so they are easy to tank. I don't see how it could get any easier. A HAM Ceberus or Tengu will absolutely destroy this mission. Any sentry boat like the Dominix/Navy Vexor/Myrmidon will also easily solo this. Edit: If you are having trouble with this mission post your fit and I'm sure the people here will be happy to advise you on how to improve it. I made videos, but it takes 2 times as long to upload them if not 3 times longer. I succeeded the mission as you can probably read.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8072
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:32:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Goldiiee wrote:Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Edit: If you are having trouble with this mission post your fit and I'm sure the people here will be happy to advise you on how to improve it.
Don't ask for his fit, he will block you after a long post regarding how your trying to derail his plans. If you look back a few posts you can see his fully T1 fitted and T1 light drones Dominix, but telling him to change training results in a similar response, followed by the 'I will block you' comment. I can't imagine having the patience to spend 2 hours in a Lvl-3 mission, for a couple 100k ISK, so at least he has patience going for him. Good luck trying to get through to him. Your right its the same guy. How did I miss that. The way he is trying to do it is exactly what us mission runners complain about, even deplore. The narrow science of running missions in a very specific way and with predefined results/rewards always the same, always predictable, redundantly so. In this way, one mission is always more easily done than another mission, if you follow the specific guidelines for mission ship doctrines, follow the script and collect the reward like a mouse in a maze. It takes grinding to a new level. But EVE is more flexible, and results vary with - somewhat - varying skills trained, ships used and even fittings equipped. This is undefinable, as mission runners realize after spending actual time at length with the system. And we would even prefer more variation to what is compared to or attempting to define it to a narrow science, which is in itself elusive. EVE would need to be further dumbed down to do so. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:44:00 -
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1,370,000m ISK looted and counting.
Edit 1 @ 23:41: I looted 3 x Drazin's Keycard This is a chaos-logic keycard. It had been issued to a pirate by the name of Drazin Jaruk. It will open the acceleration gate for a short time and then self-destruct. ... There are three incase you would need to warp out and back : each gate activation consumes one keycard.
Only 2 more wreck with MTU. I scoop and then use the 1st of 3 keys.
Edit 2: +140k + 770k I won't have enough cargo space to grab it and go. I will have to go drop at base (1 jump away, 2 jumps round trip), clear hold, and come back. I will clear a Passive Limited Explosive Plating I -23% Explosive Damage Resistance Bonus to make space for an Expanded Cargohold.
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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
269
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Posted - 2014.06.17 14:30:00 -
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<- Continues munching popcorn. This thread delivers. "I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion." |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:13:00 -
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I was suggested Sentries and I got the rest of the day off. Trying to pick up a $50 check. bbl. I still deliver Quafe for real, that includes all Quafe products. Disclaimer: Except toilet paper. I categorically refuse to.
There's a few other thing to include which could go in my signature line but I forgot.
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Unter Daem
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.06.17 18:39:00 -
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wut.
I thought I saw earlier in the gibberish that you can only deal thermal/kinetic damage? This is False. Missiles can deal any type of damage. For EM, look to Mjolnir missiles. For explosive, look to Nova missiles. Projectiles can deal any type as well, though it's less focused. look for EMP ammo for EM damage, and Fusion is good for explosive. If you use hybrids, yes. one of hybrid's weaknesses is that it can only deal therm/kin damage. It's why hybrid platforms are generally not among the top mission ships. same deal with Lasers. they can ONLY deal EM/therm. laser ships can be great in amarr space, but generally again, not top mission ships.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.17 19:19:00 -
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Unter Daem wrote:wut.
I thought I saw earlier in the gibberish that you can only deal thermal/kinetic damage? This is False. Missiles can deal any type of damage. For EM, look to Mjolnir missiles. For explosive, look to Nova missiles. Projectiles can deal any type as well, though it's less focused. look for EMP ammo for EM damage, and Fusion is good for explosive. If you use hybrids, yes. one of hybrid's weaknesses is that it can only deal therm/kin damage. It's why hybrid platforms are generally not among the top mission ships. same deal with Lasers. they can ONLY deal EM/therm. laser ships can be great in amarr space, but generally again, not top mission ships.
As to the rest of op's posts, refer to the opening. erm, this ship has sailed without missiles. It uses Hybrid ammo which do not deliver Kinetic damage. The drones do all the Kinetic damage, more than the on board equip of zero. That is 100% more of 0 which is like a miracle in itself although a definite term...
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