A few dosen die out of millions of trips and you think the ganking is out of control and unbalanced?

I don't feel loved unless someone from Goonwaffe is suggesting WIdot should be kicked at least once a day.

If that's about right, then I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Is this actually out of line? Do you have proof of tens of thousands per day? How many tens?

Freighter hull 1.3b
Cargo 15b

Price per jump 500m per 1b worth of cargo, based off standard delivery from push industries.

For a fully loaded charon assuming 50000m3 = 1b then the max trip would be 15b in the hold and the pilot is looking at 7.5m per jump.

16.3b / 7.5m = 2170 successful jumps to pay off 1 gank

2170 jumps * 6 ganks = 13,000 successful jumps per day

Now add in room for profit, as any business major will tell you that should be 5x cost minimum.

13,000 x 5 = tens of thousands

This of course assumes the shipper doesn't ever have to make a jump out of his way to pick up / drop off additional cargo.

Yes, people throw ISK at us for our shenanigans! People with very deep pockets. They like the content we provide, they send us (lots and lots) of ISK, we generate more content.

Everyone knows CCP is biased in favor of the entities that suicide gank in highsec. CCP actually financially benefits from it, so they do everything they can to ensure the status quo in highsec endures.

Whether or not this is good for the game is another question entirely!

This would certainly explain events like this very 99 page thread where everyone's complaining about how rare suicide ganking is. Oh wait..

The people who do the bitching won't be happy until there is a zero suicide gank rate, because they think highsec should be a fluffy place, with no sharp objects or risk.

My guess is that CCP would double it's subscriber base in the first month.

I personally hate the thought of a change like that, but it's gold to a game company (in the short term) when they make a fluffy little play area for people to use as a chat room with space ships as a background.

Mr Epeen

The part you keep ignoring is that we do things like that because you lot have irrevocably pissed us off by constantly crying to nerf us. It's not going to stop now, we have a point to make.

CCP has already implemented this. It's called SiSi.

Nerf freighter ganking. Free logistics pilots everywhere from the burden of having to fit a tank.

While I agree that suicide ganking is lame, I don't really see this as a way to fix it.. You can buy sec tags to increase your sec status fairly easily.. I've just moved most of my time spent in-game out of High-Sec, and hopefully more players will do the same. In low, null or WH you absolutley KNOW if someone is trying to murder you (everyone is) so it's easier to be aware, as opposed to high-sec, where you just have to avoid 3 people out of a local list of like 150.

or "realistic" law enforcement response (they turn up 15-60 minutes after you ask for help, if they come at all, then arrest the nearest Minmatar and go back to the donut bar)

I can't see a single highsec loss for you on zkillboard so they can't be very good would-be gankers.

Believe what you want. It's no coincidence that Eve's declining subscription rate coincides exactly with the implementation of it's current bounty system which reinforces this kind of thing.

Friends don't let friends fly bling.

If someone can reasonably expect to recoup their losses by killing you, then that's too much bling.

Note, that it's pretty easy to not do this. You can even use a whole pile of deadspace mods without being profitable to kill. But if you're approaching or exceeding the cost of your hull with one or more modules then it's not "if", but "when" you get ganked, unless you are the King of Instas.

So easy to say. And you are right, hi sec should get more rewards for their actions.

Still waiting for someone to counter that theory using logic, not "obviously I am taking more risk by living somewhere else than hi sec so I should get more rewards." It doesn't work that way in the real world, and it shouldn't work that way in EvE either.

By so many players twisted definition I should pay more for gold that comes from a war torn state in Africa. Guess what, that gold is cheaper. And the more they mine the cheaper it gets.

Null sec ratting shouldn't pay bounties. Empire should be glad that rats are in Null sec, why would they pay for their extinction there? Hi priority targets, sure. But I don't remember there being a bounty on every member of a terrorist organization. And where would rats need the best equipment? Most likely hi sec where they face more threats. Logically hi sec drops should be better.

But hey, logic doesn't fit into discussions regarding entitlement. You feel you deserve more rewards because you chose to live in a backwater then fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I'd like to see CCP use the Ultima Online stat-loss system where victims of highsec non-wardec kills could flag their murders, and when the criminals die, every single character in their account(s) lose 5% to 25% (depending on notoriety) skill points across all skills. That ought to slow down suicide-gankers.