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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Corunna ElMan on 21/06/2006 16:33:32
curses, double post
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"Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.06.21 16:33:00 -
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I made one too. Kurren "must be a moron" to share such a lousy sig with people. 
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"Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Xrak
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Xrak
yarrr check out my cool new sig.
Dude could you make me one of your sigs? They're pretty sweet.
Here you go.
Awesome, now these were 10mil isk each right?
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.06.21 18:47:00 -
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I followed a fair bit of something awful's issue with ebaum. He was stealing their photoshop phriday projects and adding his tag to the bottom, and a whole lot of their content as i understand it.
He makes money from other people's work without any consideration for permission or anything legal, he makes me scowl.
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Gift
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Posted - 2006.06.21 21:20:00 -
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put it on the internet it's fair game. ABS can suck it.
Sawa's Graphic Fun Time
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Xrak
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Posted - 2006.06.21 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Xrak
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Xrak
yarrr check out my cool new sig.
Dude could you make me one of your sigs? They're pretty sweet.
Here you go.
Awesome, now these were 10mil isk each right?
Yea, and I forgot to add my water mark (Made by Xrak ¬)
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.21 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gift
put it on the internet it's fair game. ABS can suck it.
Could I have a link to any work you've posted online plz?
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Raptornas
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Posted - 2006.06.22 00:08:00 -
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What Ebaums world does is the internet equivilent of people in a market selling counterfeit goods. In short they make a profit from other peoples work. Much like publishers of music, which is why all musicians should immediatly go indie and release all their work on the internet so they get 100% of the profits.
See what I did there, I took a topic about someone being sued and turned it into one about how EMI suxx0rs.
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.06.22 04:52:00 -
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I would like to hear Ebaum lose this time.
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In memory of Ghossen
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Zomiaen
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Posted - 2006.06.24 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Zomiaen on 24/06/2006 01:37:31
New Update from ABS 
Originally by: AlbinoBlackSheep
I'm being forced to revisit this topic, but here goes.
After two weeks or so of controversy around Alan Becker's animation titled Animation vs Animator, Mr. Bauman finally decided to contact Alan again and pay Alan for his animation, but not just that. Alan was paid to authorize a pre-scripted quote claiming that Mr. Bauman never steals, and this quote was written in such a way to convince people Alan gave permission before the incident.
They contacted me BEFORE they posted my animation on their site.
Alan and Mr. Bauman's company were in contacts before. This isn't new information. It is implied by what I said in an earlier post:
Alan specifically did not allow Mr. Bauman's site to post his file.
What needs to be emphasised is that these contacts between the two parties resulted in Alan denying Bauman's company permission to post the file over a disagreement with Bauman's Terms of Service. Funny how Bauman's company forgot to mention that detail.
On June 9, Bauman's company posted the file anyways without paying Alan and without permission. Only after Bauman heard of a lawsuit did he decide to actually pay Alan for the file (a settlement fee, if you prefer to call it), and Alan received his check for $250 in the mail yesterday morning. Alan is sending back the check today. He tried to pay back last night, but was given many excuses that this cannot be reversed. Then they seemed to magically go offline the second Alan asked for their paypal address.
The animator communities were unhappy to hear that Alan was swayed with money at the expense of everyone whose copyright had been violated. I personally feel like I was sold out by Alan too. Turns out Alan is not from a rich home by any means. He is a 17 year old kid being exploited by a company that earns a quarter million per month (yes, really), and operating from a mansion bought for $850,000. Copyright infringement seems to pay off. As things stand now, I forgive Alan. Alan has written an explanation which are his own words and unpaid for.
Hello, I am the author of Animator vs. Animation...
I feel so ashamed, and the world is ashamed of me.
I fell into eBaum's trap. I gave them fuel to fight back.
With their constant persuasion and offers for money, they made me write a quote saying that everything was fine. Of course everything was fine for me, because I had the money they had given me. What can you expect, I was dead poor before, I have no experience with business. The quote says they contacted me before they posted my animation on their website, however I did not give them permission to put it on.
I can remove this very post on request when Alan's semantically truthful, but otherwise forced and false quote is removed. It's nice that Alan offered a counter to his own quote when he realized how it was misrepresented.
I want this to be over with. I'm not looking for publicity. Although that seems to be the only thing that this leads to. I'm too mature to play these games. I'm just looking to clear up the issue and promote education about copyright since artists again and again get the short end of the stick when it comes to posting their work online.
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Jacxx
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:15:00 -
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This guy was persuaded for....$250?
Seriously though, I hate Ebaum and everything he stands for. Anybody who says that if you want to keep the rights for something, that you shouldn't put it on the internet are idiots who have never made anything they were proud of, or else they would see where all of us who are so offended by Ebaums blatant lack of morals and respect for the law are coming from. Relating the downloading of music for our own personal amusement to the stealing of work for his own personal that ebaum does is ignorant as well.
I really hope that ebaum does get what's coming to him, sometime.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.24 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jacxx
This guy was persuaded for....$250?
Hes 17... thats like 2 weeks of pay for him probably..
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.24 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: AlbinoBlackSheep
On June 9, Bauman's company posted the file anyways without paying Alan and without permission. Only after Bauman heard of a lawsuit did he decide to actually pay Alan for the file (a settlement fee, if you prefer to call it), and Alan received his check for $250 in the mail yesterday morning. Alan is sending back the check today. He tried to pay back last night, but was given many excuses that this cannot be reversed. Then they seemed to magically go offline the second Alan asked for their paypal address.
The animator communities were unhappy to hear that Alan was swayed with money at the expense of everyone whose copyright had been violated. I personally feel like I was sold out by Alan too. Turns out Alan is not from a rich home by any means. He is a 17 year old kid being exploited by a company that earns a quarter million per month (yes, really), and operating from a mansion bought for $850,000. Copyright infringement seems to pay off. As things stand now, I forgive Alan. Alan has written an explanation which are his own words and unpaid for.
I'm not sure whats really going on here. Is he keeping the money, or going on with the lawsuit?
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:28:00 -
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Reading is fundamental:
Quote:
Alan is sending back the check today.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:31:00 -
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In case you didn't notice, I bolded that bit. It just seemed to be contradicted by everyone talking about how they were dealing with him accepting the cash later.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.06.25 05:17:00 -
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I think you have the chronology backwards. Based on what's been said so far, it sounds like he was going to keep the money but was convinced to send it back.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.26 05:30:00 -
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What's good is since the kid's 17, if he's here in the US, ebaum's can't legally make him keep the money, even if he had signed a contract sying he would keep the money, because minors cannot be held to contracts, as they can break them at any time (or something insane like that).
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