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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.06.17 11:49:00 -
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I was recently looking through a thread about resists and the wolf and it rekindled my wonder about why minnies have two huge holes in their armour resists.
Well in a sense all armour tanking minnie t2 ships get screwed over because they have two huge holes in the armour resists, kinetic and explosive. Tbh I would reduce the 92 percent em bonus to its natural 70 percent to boost one of the holes. Who in eve really cares about the story line more than balance(I may get flamed for this but balance is more important than a story). And if Amarr get an explosive crystal they will own minmatar.
And dont give me that garbage about those holes are made up for by uber shield resists. Sure I like those resists because for certain ships, aka vaga and Jag, it is very useful. The fact that shield resists are useful to a vaga shows how much armour tanking stinks. The vaga has more low slots but people would rather put stabs there instead of 2 armour hardeners. Since the kinetic resists at 40 percent are often overlooked shiels tanking is widely accepted to be a better tank regardless of whether or not there are more lows. I do consider 40 percent to be a hole when you have a t2 ship.
1. The devs should increase kinetic resists to 60%.
2. Or they can lower the kinetic resist so it doesnt fool people into thinking Shield has no resist holes and boost the one of the holes in armor.
In reality Minnies have three holes in resists for armour and shield because if they wanted all resists above 50% they need to use three hardeners. An invuln field and kinetic and explosive armour hardeners. t2 ships of other races have one hole in the whatever they are tanking and one hole in what they are not tanking. Minnies should especially be like that because they are the only race that tanks shield and armour.
For more proof I added up all the resists of a t2 minnie ship and did the same with a Caldari t2 ship. It turns out that the minnie ship has 1 percent more of total resists. This supports me because it shows minnie have about the same total resists and they still have three holes.
To conlude this post Minnie resists are spread out unevenly on their t2 ships.
Pleas dont flame me for wanting to be more uber or being a nub I just want to other peoples input on my suggestions.
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Posted - 2006.06.17 12:04:00 -
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The prblem is that armour tanking t2 minnie ships get screwed over ,Which is half of minnie t2 ships, by bad resists. Imo it isn't compensensated by the shield resists it shouldn't be. Both should have one hole so the tank on all minnie t2 ships are comparable to to other races.
Btw please read the post before asking to be handfed the information. No offense.
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Posted - 2006.06.17 12:30:00 -
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The minmatar optimal dmage means nothing because most people probably usr barrage or some t2 ammo which do only explosive and kinetic. Other very common ammo types are nuclear and titanium sabot which do kinetic and explosive. I will admit emp proton and phased plasma give a good variety of damage types.
Imo caldari are the king of damage types because they can choose whatever damage they want and concentrate all their firepower using one damage type or mix it up.
In any case I think minmatar were given the ability to use all damage types to make up for their generally low dps.
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Posted - 2006.06.17 18:10:00 -
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I think too many people believe that minmatar have insane speed to make up for their weaknesses. Well let me say having a 10 percent smaller sig and going 20 m/s faster is not quite the gift from the gods(devs) you think it is.
Minmatar put more pride on their versatility than agility. That is why I didn't say make all t2 minnie ships shield tankers. Lets keep it realistic.
Although I do hope there are some new shield tanking minnie ships around the corner.
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Posted - 2006.06.17 18:53:00 -
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Yea well the vaga is one of the few ships that's not an inty and is specialized for speed.
Anyways getting back on topic here does anyone disagree that minnie resists are spread out wrong because maybe just maybe a Dev will look If I get enough people to agree. Similar to the Bc agility thread.
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Posted - 2006.06.17 19:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Matrices Reborn
Yea well the vaga is one of the few ships that's not an inty and is specialized for speed.
Anyways getting back on topic here does anyone disagree that minnie resists are spread out wrong because maybe just maybe a Dev will look If I get enough people to agree. Similar to the Bc agility thread.
they are not spread out wrong at all, they get boosts to EM and Thermal, which gives a huge boost to shield but still leaves two low resists on armor
same reason caldari is stuck with 0% EM even on their t2 ships, same reason gallente still have 10% explosive, ect
Notice how you mention only one hole for those ships. Now mention the HOLES in Muninns armour. Which should be made up by shield resists but it isn't because of the low kinetic res. Imo becuse of these 2 huge holes there is no reason to use a wolf over a jag.
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Posted - 2006.06.17 21:58:00 -
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I don't want to artifiacially compensate anything but you can tell the devs or gm's try to make up for the 2 holes in armour by making no holes in shield If you read the beginning post you might realize I want to have one hole in armour and one in shield since the minnie tank is interchangeable.
And stop whining you plenty of mids which aren't going to be used for tackling to boost your EM resist on the cerb. By my definition of a hole(<50%) one hardener would be sufficient for the EM hole.
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Posted - 2006.06.18 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftness
Seen a lot of "nerf this" " boost that" threads recently, and it occured to me that some people will only be happy when everyone fly ships with the same optimals / resists / dps / speed / slot layout 
And it occurs to me that you have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread and if people didn't whine about nerfs and boosts where would Eve be right now and how balanced would it be?!
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