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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:40:00 -
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No idea which to load. Barrage has the highest price, so I assume its what everyone uses, but the penalties are PAINFUL.
Barrage on the oth er hand does ok damage (for t2) with ok penalties.
I want to use the more damaging hail, but is everyone using barrage as their default?
What does everyone have loaded when they normally have an encounter at a gate solo? At a gate camp?
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Vera Nosfyu
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:43:00 -
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Now I don't fly a vaga, but the general feeling is to use Barrage becuse it lets you hit from outside of web range.
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F4ze
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:43:00 -
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I don't fly the vagabond, but on my tempest/typhoon I tend to switch to hail to break through armor tanks once I am close enough and have the target webbed.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:45:00 -
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 Originally by: F4ze
I don't fly the vagabond, but on my tempest/typhoon I tend to switch to hail to break through armor tanks once I am close enough and have the target webbed.
So you actually switch ammo midfight?
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Sergej
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:48:00 -
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Most peopel I know fly with Barrage as default, EMP vs. shieldtanks, Hail for switchign to in those rare situations when you're up against a battleship, need alot of damage, and have time to switch ammo for it. Barrage has no penalties, except for being crap on shields, of course.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2006.06.17 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sergej
Most peopel I know fly with Barrage as default, EMP vs. shieldtanks, Hail for switchign to in those rare situations when you're up against a battleship, need alot of damage, and have time to switch ammo for it. Barrage has no penalties, except for being crap on shields, of course.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.06.18 08:07:00 -
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EMP or Phased plasma.
The tech II is Useless unless shooting Amrour or structure, Embarrasing if you cant break a sheild tank because Of tech II ammo.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.18 08:13:00 -
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I'd use barrage I think, never hail. I can't fly minmatar HACs yet though, so I've yet to have vaga-love.
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.06.18 08:13:00 -
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Even with T1 ammo you can hit outside web range but not far, Barrage should be primary ammo; web = death
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.06.18 09:17:00 -
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Barrage for ultra small targets and targets where you want to stay out of webber range.
I'm not using Hail often because it kills the vaga's most important bonus: speed
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.06.18 09:51:00 -
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Barrage all the way. Hail destroys your speed, and speed=life for a Vaga. I can't think of any situation in which I'd ever carry the stuff, let alone load it. Maybe if I was fighting something that wouldnt be shooting back :)
Barrage has the advantages of leting you shoot from extreme range for ACs, you're effective up to about 25km. Which is why faction scramblers are so good on a Vaga; you can be outside range of many things and still have your target scrammed and taking damage. Of course, often you'll want to be closer to increase your transversal, and again this is why faction mods work so well; at 16km you can be using an inexpensive faction nos, still be hitting your target with barrage, and have him scrammed. All this whilst being out of normal web range, and out of range of some guns such as medium blasters.
As with all Minmatar guns, you should *always* carry Phased Plasma for killing T2 amarr ships, and always carry EMP for breaking some tougher shield tanks. EMP will put you in web range, though, so use it wisely. With all but the strongest of tanks, Barrage+Nos is usually fine, but there's no harm in being prepared.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.06.18 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Barrage all the way. Hail destroys your speed, and speed=life for a Vaga. I can't think of any situation in which I'd ever carry the stuff, let alone load it. Maybe if I was fighting something that wouldnt be shooting back :)
Barrage has the advantages of leting you shoot from extreme range for ACs, you're effective up to about 25km. Which is why faction scramblers are so good on a Vaga; you can be outside range of many things and still have your target scrammed and taking damage. Of course, often you'll want to be closer to increase your transversal, and again this is why faction mods work so well; at 16km you can be using an inexpensive faction nos, still be hitting your target with barrage, and have him scrammed. All this whilst being out of normal web range, and out of range of some guns such as medium blasters.
As with all Minmatar guns, you should *always* carry Phased Plasma for killing T2 amarr ships, and always carry EMP for breaking some tougher shield tanks. EMP will put you in web range, though, so use it wisely. With all but the strongest of tanks, Barrage+Nos is usually fine, but there's no harm in being prepared.
aaah testy... let them wonder in web range slow... hail is 4tw. If you see blasterthron, just load hail and go close, you will break any tank. 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.18 16:25:00 -
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When the phoon changes go through I will be using hail (full tank + insane dps 4tw). If the ship does look like it's going to escape web range just change ammo and you'll get your speed back.
For the vagabond, barrage + falloff bonus 4tw.
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.06.18 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Montero on 18/06/2006 16:47:22
I remember this one time i used hail ammo. true story.
edit: ffs not only am i afk but i'm also not very witty today and couldnt manage to spell story right.
bastards.
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Turiel Demon
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Posted - 2006.06.18 18:17:00 -
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Is this a serious question?
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Posted - 2006.06.18 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
When the phoon changes go through I will be using hail (full tank + insane dps 4tw). If the ship does look like it's going to escape web range just change ammo and you'll get your speed back.
Full tank and insane dps isnt possible according to yourself in the other thread. 300 powergrid short. 
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Kwisat Haderach
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Posted - 2006.06.18 19:58:00 -
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Barrage and Phased Plasma 4tw :)
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