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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.06.23 04:50:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:My dispute is natural then, considering you ignored the context of this discussion. Not really, no. Go back and look at my first post and see the context it was made in. Just because you missed the context does not mean I ignored it.
Quote:One reasonably predicated on the context of this discussion. Same here. Look at the actual context of my comment, not the one you're imagining and hoping for.
Quote:Which is not particularly relevant to the context of this discussion. You mean a discussion of how symmetry in and out of space actually works in real-life? No, it's fairly relevant there. It's also pretty relevant to any kind of space-game as it happens.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:51:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Grimpak wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Every ship is asymmetrical. amarr ships, not quite  The Aeon will, once they finish the other half.
hence the "not quite"
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:58:00 -
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Removed a personal attack.
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
ISD Supogo
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
875
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Posted - 2014.06.23 06:12:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
However, I cant' find the article stating how for sub-light speeds, ships warp space to move, i.e. the thrusters aren't thrusting, so again, non need for hull symmetry.
Interesting the NASA sponsored concept work for a possible FTL ship looks a lot like the Astero ....
NASA FTL concept |
Raviel Oxidans
Imperial Dawn
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.06.23 06:42:00 -
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Lets play space engineers? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
875
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Posted - 2014.06.23 07:12:00 -
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Raviel Oxidans wrote:Lets play space engineers?
lol lets cross EVE with SPORE |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.23 07:15:00 -
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Asymmetry in spacecraft design is hardly unique to EvE
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
"How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.06.23 08:19:00 -
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Raviel Oxidans wrote:Lets play space engineers?
Kerbal Space Program ftmfw. 
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Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.23 08:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Raviel Oxidans wrote:Lets play space engineers? Kerbal Space Program ftmfw.
Kerbal Space Programme FML more like 
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.23 08:51:00 -
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The old Moa is dead. Get over it. |
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Analeesa
Inner Shadow
That Escalated Quickly.
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Posted - 2014.06.23 11:24:00 -
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I prefer symmetrical ships. They just look nicer in my opinion. What's wrong with a mix of both?
Truth eludes he who does not seek it both eyes wide. |
Strawberry Shortcake69
Hyperion Corporation
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Posted - 2014.06.23 11:26:00 -
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Well, you can always fly the Imicus hulls. Nothing quite says I've had a stroke like they do. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2014.06.23 11:30:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:My opinion is unpopular.
That is not a very good opening sentence.
However, you did save me the trouble of finishing reading your post.
+1 would stop reading again.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.06.23 11:39:00 -
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Wu Jiaqiu wrote:My opinion is unpopular. But no doubt Eve is losing its overall look. There seems to be a shift to making ships more symmetrical, but there must be an equal amount, if not, more asymmetrical ships to keep their designs "Eve". In many space themed games and movies, their vessels are always symmetrical, Eve differs by exploring ideas that these hulls do not necessarily need to be symmetrical to function in space as aerodynamics do not apply. I'd like to encourage CCP to continue exploring the ideas as they have before with designing asymmetrical hulls that gave Eve it's look and releasing assymetrical, but new designs in later expansions. I love a good design doctrine. And, you're qualified to comment how?
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus
Universal Consortium
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Posted - 2014.06.23 13:32:00 -
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The only asymmetrical design I can just about cope with is the Thorax.
hell, I'd settle for the flying cubes the Borg had as long as they called it a Titan. Some of the Minmatar ships look like insects that have been scraped off a windshield.
I find the ships where they have tried to make it look ''Moar Sci Fi'' have failed horribly and the genuinely awesome looking ships (Scorpion, Megathron/Vindy, Raven) are nearly all symmetrically pleasing to the eye.
Saying that my opinion is worth less than those pixels because i preferred the old Tristan model, even though the new one looks badass |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.06.23 14:32:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:The shuttle by the way is symmetrical in the roll axis but not in the yaw or pitch axis.
Or to put it another way it is symmetrical left/right but not up/down or front/back.
On an unrelated note, why do mirrors reverse left right but not up down ? Define up/down/left/right/front/back in space, where there is no clear reference (called a horizon) to judge your situation by.
How the ship function will usually give you all of that. |
Callic Veratar
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:59:00 -
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It's almost like humans find bilateral symmetry aesthetically appealing. I wonder what possible reason there could be for that.  |
Arronicus
X-Prot
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.06.23 16:48:00 -
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Yes, yes. Bring back the old Moa design, thanks. /thread. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
763
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Posted - 2014.06.23 17:03:00 -
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EVE is a scifi game. Thousands of years in the future. I don't care about realism. Only about fun.
Was the old Moa a crazy design? Sure. Was it fun? Yes. Is it fun now? I'm still pondering, but tendency is no.
Remove insurance. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
877
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Posted - 2014.06.23 22:51:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:It's almost like humans find bilateral symmetry aesthetically appealing. I wonder what possible reason there could be for that.
Its actually a survival thing. Predators tend to have bilateral symmetry and we evolved (or were created who cares) to be sensitive to it. |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.23 22:52:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:EVE is a scifi game. Thousands of years in the future. I don't care about realism. Only about fun.
Was the old Moa a crazy design? Sure. Was it fun? Yes. Is it fun now? I'm still pondering, but tendency is no.
Fun to look at
Thats your lot
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH)
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Jacob Stov
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Posted - 2014.06.24 00:47:00 -
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Maybe people wouldn't complain that much if the ship would still look like a Caldari ship. I just came back after 2 years break and many ships are now different.
I like the new Condor/Crow/Raptor. There are still many vertical surfaces and those sandwhich type wings. It is clearly recognizable as Caldari ship.
Moa on the other hand with all those sloped surfaces looks like a stealthboat, but not like one of the oldest Caldari cruiser designs. Moa was fugly before, but it doesn't fit in the Caldari lineup now. |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2014.06.24 01:00:00 -
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Thread Locked By ISD Ezwal
Thread Locked By ISD Ezwal-á
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
877
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Posted - 2014.06.24 01:28:00 -
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45thtiger 0109 wrote:Thread Locked By ISD Ezwal
Nope, not.
Its a silly and pointless thread but GD has many of those.
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Mithandra
Serene Vendetta
Brawls Deep
49
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Posted - 2014.06.24 10:01:00 -
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I love the wacky, LSD dream ships of EVE
I don't care that they don't make design sense.
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Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2014.06.24 14:56:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Its actually a survival thing. Animals tend to have bilateral symmetry and we evolved (or were created who cares) to be sensitive to it.
Fixed it for you.
Symmetry is generally considered a sign of health. If one side is significantly different than the other, that's a sign that something has gone screwy somewhere, which is why we are neuralogically wired to avoid it. |
Toshiro Hasegawa
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:31:00 -
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i prefered to old moa, scorp and condor. - but only because they came first .. new ones look nice too .. |
Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.06.24 18:51:00 -
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Maybe CCP should allow one the option of using the old ship models, at a cost of course, like a PLEX or two - In the same way one can Resculpt a character using a PLEX. |
Callic Veratar
605
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Posted - 2014.06.24 20:29:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Callic Veratar wrote:It's almost like humans find bilateral symmetry aesthetically appealing. I wonder what possible reason there could be for that. Its actually a survival thing. Predators tend to have bilateral symmetry and we evolved (or were created who cares) to be sensitive to it.
More symmetrical is better adapted and healthy and therefore more desirable and thus more aesthetically pleasing. |
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