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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.11.19 07:45:00 -
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Hey Logistics Pilots,
I am curious if flying a Guardian or Basi is FUN in small gang pvp? Fleet comp issues aside, do you enjoy it? is it more fun for YOU than tackling or running a sniper ship?
I have the skills as I fly command ships, just not flown them myself and been thinking about adding more spice.
Best, AG Repair Drones should be able to repair anyone ... really, they should. -áThink of them as the first targetable subsystem if you're worried about PvP and for missions if someone wants Rep drones over a flight of Hobs, who cares. -áThere is no reasonable objection here other than it's always been that way (so was RR until recently). |

Mythen
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2011.11.19 09:04:00 -
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Flying a scimitar in small shield gangs can be a ton of ton. Not to mention that they can really tip the tide of the battle in your gangs favor. |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
98
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Posted - 2011.11.19 09:24:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:Hey Logistics Pilots,
I am curious if flying a Guardian or Basi is FUN in small gang pvp?
It's fun, but usually it scares off a lot of your targets. |

Liang Nuren
Perkone Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2011.11.19 10:02:00 -
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Its very different than normal small gang work - but I find it fun and personally rewarding. If you consider killmails and KB records as important, logi work probably isn't for you. :-/
-Liang |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
259
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Posted - 2011.11.19 14:20:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Its very different than normal small gang work - but I find it fun and personally rewarding. If you consider killmails and KB records as important, logi work probably isn't for you. :-/
-Liang
I try never to post killmails, I don't like them in general. I used to really enjoy healing in pvp for other mmos, the thing here that concerns me is that it looks like you need 2 guardians to be effective as you can't keep you own arse safe. Repair Drones should be able to repair anyone ... really, they should. -áThink of them as the first targetable subsystem if you're worried about PvP and for missions if someone wants Rep drones over a flight of Hobs, who cares. -áThere is no reasonable objection here other than it's always been that way (so was RR until recently). |

Alexander Yukari
TerraNovae Workers Trade Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:00:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Its very different than normal small gang work - but I find it fun and personally rewarding. If you consider killmails and KB records as important, logi work probably isn't for you. :-/
-Liang I try never to post killmails, I don't like them in general. I used to really enjoy healing in pvp for other mmos, the thing here that concerns me is that it looks like you need 2 guardians to be effective as you can't keep you own arse safe.
Wait for winter patch, oneiros will be good for PVP as only logi.
+200 PG, +1 low -1 mid -10m sig.
With 4 lows you can fit MWD or AB, ECCM and 2 cap rechargers, 4 large reps and you have 5 slot tank. No links but you will be cap stable with 70m sig radious.
Oni will be as good as scimi after patch.
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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
265
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Posted - 2011.11.20 03:40:00 -
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Alexander Yukari wrote:Apollo Gabriel wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Its very different than normal small gang work - but I find it fun and personally rewarding. If you consider killmails and KB records as important, logi work probably isn't for you. :-/
-Liang I try never to post killmails, I don't like them in general. I used to really enjoy healing in pvp for other mmos, the thing here that concerns me is that it looks like you need 2 guardians to be effective as you can't keep you own arse safe. Wait for winter patch, oneiros will be good for PVP as only logi. +200 PG, +1 low -1 mid -10m sig. With 4 lows you can fit MWD or AB, ECCM and 2 cap rechargers, 4 large reps and you have 5 slot tank. No links but you will be cap stable with 70m sig radious. Oni will be as good as scimi after patch.
Great idea, and most I encounter for a few weeks will think the Oni sucks. Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ... Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon. Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
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Liang Nuren
Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2011.11.20 04:02:00 -
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Alexander Yukari wrote:Apollo Gabriel wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Its very different than normal small gang work - but I find it fun and personally rewarding. If you consider killmails and KB records as important, logi work probably isn't for you. :-/
-Liang I try never to post killmails, I don't like them in general. I used to really enjoy healing in pvp for other mmos, the thing here that concerns me is that it looks like you need 2 guardians to be effective as you can't keep you own arse safe. Wait for winter patch, oneiros will be good for PVP as only logi. +200 PG, +1 low -1 mid -10m sig. With 4 lows you can fit MWD or AB, ECCM and 2 cap rechargers, 4 large reps and you have 5 slot tank. No links but you will be cap stable with 70m sig radious. Oni will be as good as scimi after patch.
What are you talking about? The Ony is getting ******* raped for solo work. Also, the Basilisk is far superior to the Scim already - even as a solo logi.
-Liang |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
265
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Posted - 2011.11.20 04:05:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Alexander Yukari wrote:Apollo Gabriel wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Its very different than normal small gang work - but I find it fun and personally rewarding. If you consider killmails and KB records as important, logi work probably isn't for you. :-/
-Liang I try never to post killmails, I don't like them in general. I used to really enjoy healing in pvp for other mmos, the thing here that concerns me is that it looks like you need 2 guardians to be effective as you can't keep you own arse safe. Wait for winter patch, oneiros will be good for PVP as only logi. +200 PG, +1 low -1 mid -10m sig. With 4 lows you can fit MWD or AB, ECCM and 2 cap rechargers, 4 large reps and you have 5 slot tank. No links but you will be cap stable with 70m sig radious. Oni will be as good as scimi after patch. What are you talking about? The Ony is getting ******* raped for solo work. Also, the Basilisk is far superior to the Scim already - even as a solo logi. -Liang
As I've stated I don't know much of these ships, but due to the above "boost" I don't understand the issue Liang Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ... Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon. Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
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Liang Nuren
Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2011.11.20 04:25:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:As I've stated I don't know much of these ships, but due to the above "boost" I don't understand the issue Liang
As a solo logistics, you aren't going to be getting any return reps so it doesn't really matter if you homogeneously tank with your gang mates. Because of this, it was generally reasonable to spend your mid slots on an active shield tank for your Ony. The other solo logis (Basi, Scim) can both active shield tank and thus are going to have the Crystal advantage and somewhat cheaper shield boosters. In the new configuration, the Ony can field a dual rep tank, but its unbonused. I guess I can take some solace in the fact that I can ditch crystals for snakes. :-/
Either way, don't buffer tank a solo logi. You just don't have the staying power for being on the field and helping your gang mates survive.
-Liang |
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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
268
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Posted - 2011.11.20 06:45:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Apollo Gabriel wrote:As I've stated I don't know much of these ships, but due to the above "boost" I don't understand the issue Liang As a solo logistics, you aren't going to be getting any return reps so it doesn't really matter if you homogeneously tank with your gang mates. Because of this, it was generally reasonable to spend your mid slots on an active shield tank for your Ony. The other solo logis (Basi, Scim) can both active shield tank and thus are going to have the Crystal advantage and somewhat cheaper shield boosters. In the new configuration, the Ony can field a dual rep tank, but its unbonused. I guess I can take some solace in the fact that I can ditch crystals for snakes. :-/ Either way, don't buffer tank a solo logi. You just don't have the staying power for being on the field and helping your gang mates survive. -Liang great advice thanks Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ... Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon. Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
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