the fact that you even have to make this statement is pretty much confirmation that you are all a collection of sociopaths and vermin that need to be kept as far away from normal people and children as possible.

it would be a good day if CCP just took all the IPs associated with CODE and its derivatives in any way, and just banned them all. Game would become much healthier.

Ganking community? Anti ganking community? You mean those are real things and not just strawmen and self serving propaganda puppets? I don't believe it!

Requesting a copy of said logs.

lol Gorila, that puppet.


I want some logs too, please.
This pisses me off.


Why would I enjoy reading this, when I know it's hatefull crap?

You make no sense at all.

Shoot me a in game message and I will get them to you soon as I can.

I would prefer you evemail them to me as I am unfortunately phone bound for the next two weeks or so.

There seems to be a lot of furious damage control going on here. This could get interesting.

CODE. Alliance does not condone, encourage or tolerate personal attacks against other EVE players for any reason at any time. If members of our alliance are found to be engaging in this type of behavior we will take swift action against that member.

Copy of the logs for me please.

Please drop me a EVE-mail in game and request them, as posting logs here is not allowed and will not be done.

In game message received, get to you as soon as I can.

I don't think anyone would "enjoy" reading it. No one I know enjoyed it. However, it's worth reading just to be aware of.

Well ... you said it ... "I think you will enjoy reading them".

Confused me.


That guy is done for... and that other guy that got mentioned in your thread,
which got locked ... I tried contacting you, but you didn't hear the call.

I'm currently at work and can't send a in game mail. Since I have an attention span of a squirrel on acid, would prolly not ask for one when I get home. Would enjoy the reading material to keep me awake at work!

You do know you can send an EVEmail from the forums if you're signed in don't you? Just click on the name of the pilot you want to mail and the option is there.

I've been active in the New Order for a long time now, and I don't know that I've ever been in a situation before where I have ever felt a fellow Agent made a wrong decision (we are just that good, obviously). However, I must say that this thread and the one that preceded it are completely gratuitous and unnecessary. They only serve to dredge up memories of a recent tragedy and to give this SEAL character, an obvious attention *****, exactly the attention he is looking for.

It would have been better to petition the guy, then use internal channels of communication to let us know that this individual is an Enemy of Highsec, to be targeted using in-game, non-EULA violating tactics, in the likely event that he doesn't get perma banned.

I've been active in the New Order for a long time now, and I don't know that I've ever been in a situation before where I have ever felt a fellow Agent made a wrong decision (we are just that good, obviously). However, I must say that this thread and the one that preceded it are completely gratuitous and unnecessary. They only serve to dredge up memories of a recent tragedy and to give this SEAL character, an obvious attention *****, exactly the attention he is looking for.

It would have been better to petition the guy, then use internal channels of communication to let us know that this individual is an Enemy of Highsec, to be targeted using in-game, non-EULA violating tactics, in the likely event that he doesn't get perma banned.

+1 Well played good sirs. I am in total support to clean up hatred and malicious content from the game.


o7 o7 o7 o7 o7

Frankly, everybody is talking too much about an issue that was better left to rot in silence...

It is good this is being discussed. We should all re-familiarize ourselves with what brings us together; Eve Online. Whether you're members of a rival alliance, or corp, or coalition, or pirate, or carebear, the one thing we all have in common is we play this sort of broken, yet great game. Some of us love it and some of us not so much and log on for other reasons. Regardless, we are all a part of the Eve Online community. And, when anyone see's a player going too far, we should voice our concern despite if he/she is on the same team, etc.

Being a pirate for so many years I've met many of anger players and whenever talking with them I remind myself that I would be upset too, to a degree, and the fact that we are all connected in the Eve Universe and play the same game together.

Let's not forget though, nothing says I love you like a Killmail

Lets just love each other with a little antimatter, get on teamspeak and sing some damn songs in the spirit of good gameplay.

lets not have another witch hunt.

I think the purpose of this thread should not be the highlighting of this one issue in isolation, but the continued wish by those of us grown up enough to see the growing issue of unecessary name-called, beligerance and general schoolyard activity in local, in commchats and within our own corps and alliances, and working together to say that this is somethin that we do not find acceptable.

lets not have another witch hunt.

Oh look, this thread again.

Yes everyone on the internet, and especially in a video game, should be nice to their fellow human beings and show a basic level of courtesy to all. But while we're on the subject of common courtesy, would it be possible to refrain from the blatant attention seeking threads we've been seeing in GD each day, every day? That too is common courtesy.

If you have a problem with a particular individual or group in this community, take the proper course of action and file a ticket with CCL/GMs/ISD/whatever. There's no need for a new thread documenting internet malcontent #74563241 every. single. day.

I've got an even better idea.

How about players not be douchebags?

I am, however, totally guilty of something you mentioned. On many a character during my years of playing EVE - I have seen members of my fleet, corp or alliance act in a way that is just over the top and totally uncalled for. And I said NOTHING about it as they were on the same team as me, and I did not want to be the ONE person out of many who called them out for it.

I am actually guilty of this as well and I'm glad I read this to remind me of that.

Oh look, this thread again.

Yes everyone on the internet, and especially in a video game, should be nice to their fellow human beings and show a basic level of courtesy to all. But while we're on the subject of common courtesy, would it be possible to refrain from the blatant attention seeking threads we've been seeing in GD each day, every day? That too is common courtesy.

If you have a problem with a particular individual or group in this community, take the proper course of action and file a ticket with CCL/GMs/ISD/whatever. There's no need for a new thread documenting internet malcontent #74563241 every. single. day.

While I am not quite clear on what's happened recently, I did make a request to view this and will offer some type of opinion at a later time. More likely won't until I see what the problem is.

I do know however that two communities in Eve are coming together for a purpose to address what ever the concern is.

Thanks.

Someone said something to another person and roleplayers are all hot and bothered over it to a point where they need to spam GD again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxKRj9DRnc&feature=kp

tbh

After reviewing the files sent to me, it's my understanding that the person responsible for making those remarks should be removed from anything that has to do with Eveonline. This was an unwelcomed incident that should have never been instigated by this person, and show a total lack of concern on his part. His disrespect to the victim and families, and in an analysis of it, I have set this person as Red.

Hey hey hoo hoo Witch hunt! Fun fun fun!

So, after getting home from work and having my dinner, I had a read through what you sent me.

My opinion is that he should be banned from EVE Online. If ever a line has been crossed, it has been crossed here, and bans have been handed out for less.

Someone said some very bad things in EvE and offended a great deal of people..

I haven't read what was said.. but from peoples reactions it was pretty bad

say anyone mind giving me the cliff notes version of what this thread is exactly about?

These actions took place 100% in game, using the EVE client - and we urge any response to be 100% in game, using the EVE client, and only in a way that does not violate the EULA.

Myself, I can think of quite a few creative ways to express my feelings in-game in these regards. I am confident that other players will also come up with many other creative methods.

Please, take the time to share it with other people. At the end of the logs you received is a drag-and-drop link you can share in any way you like.

Fly fun!

o/

Agreed. Happy CODE day.

I understand your point and see where you are coming from.

Please understand - we have no desire to dredge up painful memories of a tragedy. That was Fallen SEAL's decision. He did it for attention, and we feel the community may want to show him how badly this type of attention seeking can backfire badly, and that the attention he will receive will be of a type that causes him to learn a very tough lesson.

Many players were present and may have used the support ticket system. We are not calling for his ban or any action by CCP by sharing this information in this way - but you can be assured that support tickets were filed.

The reason we are sharing this information is a hope for the very thing you just mentioned - a in-game, non-EULA violating response by anyone who feels that a in-game response to Fallen SEAL's in game actions is justified.

I'm not sure how much of this is serious (sorry but RPers confuse me).

And a very happy CODE day to you as well! Today is an excellent day to find something somewhere that you suspect may not have a valid permit and then make it explode. :-)

This isn't meant in a negative way toward folks in CODE (or to you Marsha!), but I often hear roleplay and CODE mentioned in the same breath. However I (as a pretty heavy RP'er) really fail to see much about them that is roleplay-related.

In a general sense it's not a roleplay corp per say, nor do many of it's members (or any really that I've run across personally) actually roleplay a character, least not as one might see people within EVE's actual RP community do (in forum places like IGS and Fiction or ingame places like The Summit) in a traditional sense. Neither do they have any presence whatsoever in these EVE RP venues.

Their organazation and it's goal, purpose and demeanor have somewhat of a RP 'flavor' and 'back story' attatched to it, but beyond that I'd not call it RP personally.

Out of simple curiosity maybe someone from CODE could help clarify where they stand in regards to -actual- conscious character roleplay in a traditional RP sense, and what role (if any) it plays in the organizations daily operations.


Is there free cake sir!?!

To clarify, I am absolutely ok with the rest of the message - that we need to have a little perspective and realize that this is a competitive game, and we all should have a sportsmanlike attitude when we confront our opponents. I'm ok with smack talk, I'm ok even with all the sneakiest, most underhanded tactics that fall within the rules of the game. There is a line, though, and this guy definitely crossed it. Personally, I have never seen any CODE agent ever tread close to that line, but I will take your word for it if you say that some have done so.

I have absolutely witnessed the Anti-Ganker side routinely crossing the line, to the point where I am completely desensitized to having my family threatened, and don't even bother reporting it, generally figuring that anyone crazy enough to get that worked up enough about a video game is probably too crazy to effectively do anything about it.

I'm cool with some of the anti-gankers though. I actually like Gorila Vengaza, enjoy his blog, and figure it's only a matter of time before he comes to his senses and joins our side. As much as I like CODE, I actually once considered starting an Anti-CODE movement just for the challenge, and because I think that the story would be more interesting with an effective opposition. I get the impression that Gorila brings the same perspective to the table.

I still think that it would have been better to handle this situation internally and through the petition system, rather than spreading it all over the public forums and risking another witch hunt. We are better than the likes of Ripard Teg, and we should remember to act like it.

Every single person in this game is RPing to some degree. You guys are the super-nerds about it (no offense, I think nerds are cool), some people like to pretend they aren't RPing at all, which is idiotic, since this is an RPG. Some people are RPing that they are members of a space-alliance called Brave, or Pandemic Legion, or whatever, but otherwise keep the conversation out-of character. CODE is kind of middle ground. Yes, we RP that we are the space police of high sec, but we don't give a **** about game lore, or swear alliegance to the Emperor of Amarr, or anything of that nature.

Had a read.

What he has said is very offensive.. but you are only showing the worst of it (and really there is no justification to what he has said).

Do you have the entire chat log?

Whether game's official lore is used or some player made lore, it's still lore. EVE is a sandbox and you are free to create your own lore and play by it. CODE is a good example of role playing guided by the player made lore.

On another note, calling yourself "space police of highsec" is a bit of a stretch at best I live in an eastern European country that has overthrown a dictator in its recent history (and recently appointed another one), but I haven't yet seen police shooting random people minding their own business and asking for extortion money from people on the streets (well, except for traffic wardens).

Every single person in this game is RPing to some degree. You guys are the super-nerds about it (no offense, I think nerds are cool), some people like to pretend they aren't RPing at all, which is idiotic, since this is an RPG. Some people are RPing that they are members of a space-alliance called Brave, or Pandemic Legion, or whatever, but otherwise keep the conversation out-of character. CODE is kind of middle ground. Yes, we RP that we are the space police of high sec, but we don't give a **** about game lore, or swear alliegance to the Emperor of Amarr, or anything of that nature.

I lived in central Africa for a number of years and witnessed police doing exactly those things.

Edit: On a daily basis.

I'm still waiting for that copy of logs, I'd eve-mail you but this phone posting is painful enough.

And by the way, CODE lacks uniforms

The noble Catalyst isn't uniform enough?

I must have somehow missed you in the many many copies of this that have been requested. That mistake has now been fixed. Also, grrrrr goons :P

My entire corporation insists that the CODE uniform is a pair of combat goggles, at which time I felt the need to openly mock them and purchase a monocle, if only to to display my vastly superior purchasing power. xD

My entire corporation insists that the CODE uniform is a pair of combat goggles, at which time I felt the need to openly mock them and purchase a monocle, if only to to display my vastly superior purchasing power. xD

It's OK... Higher ranks are usually entitled to an extravagant interpretation of what their uniform should look like.

If I had it my way I would be able to wear two monocles, regardless of those who would mock me and call that type of setup "glasses".

:)

Okay going to do a bit of devils advocate here..

Reading over the full logs it is clear that (while still reprehensible) Fallen Seal made the comments in a private chat.
Why did you guys feel the need to re post the offensive material into I am presuming Amarr local (not quite enough scam spam) instead of just reporting it as it occurred?

My team also insist upon a uniform, sir. It generally consists of an all black outfit - form-fitting black leather pants that always creak when we move around, a somewhat undersized and cropped shirt or tank-top, high-heeled boots to prop us up and glossy black hair often restrained in ponytails. It's all worn over a very slender, borderline underweight, yet still very attractive and healthy figure.

Ship choices are individual and I'm the only one who wears goggles because I'm cool like that.

Wait, what?

The log I sent you is from a PUBLIC local chat channel.

The header of the logfile:

Channel ID: (('solarsystemid2', 30002659),)
Channel Name: Local

Private chats do not have a channel name of "Local".

Also, I have no idea where you got the idea that somehow content was reposted into the Amarr local chat.

The chat took place in LOCAL chat of system 30002659 - you may know it as "Aufay".

I'm really totally confused how you came to your conclusions, and urge you to please take a closer look lol :)

Na fair enough... I didn't know the system codes. I just saw that it was a trade hub by the chatter.

But looking over the logs this sad person has made his original comments 4 hrs prior (it may of well been in local) but in the logs provided it is someone from the 'Code' side reposting the offensive material

You care enough to take the time to reply to the thread to let everyone know how little you care by going through the effort to post about it.

In fact, if you take the entire EVE community as a whole and factor in how much of it will care enough to make a post in this thread, you are in the very top elite list of people who care. And by posting in this thread, you have added more posts, more views, and added yet MOAR care to it by taking the time out of your day to show that you do care. It's amazing :)

Thank you for your support.

Someone had to speak for all of the people silently enduring your shitposting.

I'm a man of the people.

I'm not denying that he the validity of what has been posted.

I'm just saying there is no need to bait this person into repeating his comments. He is obviously in it for the attention and has crossed lines.

Report him put up a statement that that kind of behavior is not tolerated, but make sure your people don't keep on encouraging him to repeat it any further

Someone had to speak for all of the people silently enduring your shitposting.

I'm a man of the people.

To insult a fallen hero in this manner is so detestable and tactless that I cannot even fathom the mindset behind such sentiments. This man gave his life in service to his countrymen. His memory should be honoured by the community he was a part of.

It makes me sad that we have people in our midst who would stoop so low. I have always placed the Eve community a cut above those from other games in terms of maturity and intellect. Guys like this make me question whether that is an entirely valid bias to hold.

I utterly condemn this type of speech, and applaud the most awesome members of CODE. who stand up for what ACTUALLY matters in our community. I'm not going to say another word on this topic as it makes me ill and I have no wish to contribute to the infamy of the POS who said those awful things.

Happy CODE. day guys! o7

To insult a fallen hero in this manner is so detestable and tactless that I cannot even fathom the mindset behind such sentiments. This man gave his life in service to his countrymen. His memory should be honoured by the community he was a part of.

It makes me sad that we have people in our midst who would stoop so low. I have always placed the Eve community a cut above those from other games in terms of maturity and intellect. Guys like this make me question whether that is an entirely valid bias to hold.

I utterly condemn this type of speech, and applaud the most awesome members of CODE. who stand up for what ACTUALLY matters in our community. I'm not going to say another word on this topic as it makes me ill and I have no wish to contribute to the infamy of the POS who said those awful things.

Happy CODE. day guys! o7

Someone had to speak for all of the people silently enduring your shitposting.

I'm a man of the people.

My entire corporation insists that the CODE uniform is a pair of combat goggles, at which time I felt the need to openly mock them and purchase a monocle, if only to to display my vastly superior purchasing power. xD

And I agree - I don't think there was a need to get this person to repeat his comments. However, I cannot be responsible for other players who were upset enough by Fallen SEAL's comments who felt that getting him to repeat what he said and include more information was a good move. I don't think it was a good move, personally.

People who are upset by something generally don't ask for it to be repeated.

Had a look over the logs and all I have to say is, "WTF GM's?!" People get temp bans for cursing in local but using someones murder to provoke a reaction is totally cool?

lets not have another witch hunt.

Also, it never should have got to this point as you should have been petitioning his vulgar local chat and corp applications from the beginning (unless of course you were and the GM's were ignoring it).