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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
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Posted - 2014.06.25 04:26:00 -
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Curiosity killed the cat - it's also got me intrigued.
Are most of the things you post in this forum about anticipated future prices honest and unbiased, or are they strategic interventions into markets?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Rthor
Smugglers Inc.
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Posted - 2014.06.25 05:12:00 -
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I say what I think. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
356
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:06:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Curiosity killed the cat - it's also got me intrigued.
Are most of the things you post in this forum about anticipated future prices honest and unbiased, or are they strategic interventions into markets?
You first ;).
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3156
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:17:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Curiosity killed the cat - it's also got me intrigued.
Are most of the things you post in this forum about anticipated future prices honest and unbiased, or are they strategic interventions into markets? You first ;).
80% honest, 10% something random I made up because I'm bored, 10% strategic manipulations.
Is this post one of the 80%?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Chris Udinov
Cerberus Defence Services
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:30:00 -
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Manipulation and honesty usually don't go hand in hand. To effectively manipulate prices you need to manage expectations thus - in some sense - deceive your competition. But I have a feeling you already know this. |
Ealon Musque
Veldspar Industries
Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:40:00 -
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Assess whether the following sentence can be true or false:
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3157
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Posted - 2014.06.25 08:08:00 -
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Chris Udinov wrote:Manipulation and honesty usually don't go hand in hand. To effectively manipulate prices you need to manage expectations thus - in some sense - deceive your competition. But I have a feeling you already know this.
Honesty and manipulation are not at all counterposed.
Look at my posts on the impact of Crius on decryptor demand. I *believe* that the MD community underestimates the future potential value of Parity and Symmetry decryptors, and have stated so, completely honestly.
As the owner of several thousand of these decryptors, it's also a market manipulation.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Isaac Schwartz
Caldari State Venture Capital
37
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Posted - 2014.06.25 09:32:00 -
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Let's just say, I'm always completely honest about my dishonesty.
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Steve Celeste
Overdogs
297
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:37:00 -
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I am 100% honest most of the time.
Unfortunately I am also wrong 30% of the time. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3626
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:28:00 -
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I am always completely above the board and honest about things that I post here.
Doesn't mean that I'm not also pushing an agenda, but when I say something's going up or down it's because I actually believe it.
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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Anne Kingston
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
7
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Posted - 2014.06.26 01:41:00 -
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Honest is always a solid market policy and a sure way to receive repeat business. Miscommunications, errors, manipulations, and down right misleading information will eventually be exposed for either being a) manipulative or b) wrong. Either result is ultimately unprofitable in a long-term market strategy. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3164
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Posted - 2014.06.26 02:16:00 -
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mynnna wrote:I am always completely above the board and honest about things that I post here.
Doesn't mean that I'm not also pushing an agenda, but when I say something's going up or down it's because I actually believe it.
Yep, you can be more effective at pushing an agenda when you do not say anything disprovable with it.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Samroski
Games Inc.
The Night Crew Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.06.26 11:26:00 -
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I'm completely honest when I post (which is occasionally) and there is absolutely no hidden agenda. Unfortunately my attempts at speculation are nearly 100% incorrect.
Any colour you like. |
RAW23
838
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:01:00 -
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Ealon Musque wrote:Assess whether the following sentence can be true or false:
One answer that has got quite a bit of traction is that
cannot be assigned any truth-value. You can see this when you try to unpack the sentence. Since 'this' refers to the whole sentence the term can be substituted for the whole sentence thus:
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(This is a lie) is a lie
But we then find that the self-referential 'this' has found its way back in and needs to be unpacked again to form the sentence with a direct referent:
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((This is a lie) is a lie) is a lie
It rapidly becomes clear that any attempt to fully unpack a self-referential sentence like this will regress infinitely and it is arguable that a sentence that cannot have its meaning directly expressed without self-reference can have a truth-value.
There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
RAW23
839
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:05:00 -
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On topic
I normally don't post on market issues where I have an interest until I have removed my interest in that market and am just an observer. However, sometimes that is not possible due to long term commitments (the technetium market for quite a while is an example) but in these cases I would typically only respond to other peoples' posts and would be as honest as possible. I certainly wouldn't make things up for my own convenience but I also wouldn't actively draw attention to risks or say things that might cause a drop in a market in which I held a position. I would give a truthful optimistic assessment but one that could be partly incomplete as I would not work actively against my own interests, even though I would also not actively mislead to advance them.
There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
358
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:10:00 -
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I'm not sure about what I've said in the past to be able say only take me seriously 20% of the time and I don't think I try to intentionally mislead people, except in an obviously silly way such as 'buy all the things', but it's probably good practice to not take me seriously anyway.
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Paul VonBel
VonBel
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Posted - 2014.06.26 22:41:00 -
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Posting here and being dishonest is a bad long-term strategy, people soon learn who is pushing agendas and who is talking sense.
Are you a market trader? Do you want to chat with other traders? Then join my ingame chat channel: VonBel Trading |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5439
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Posted - 2014.06.27 18:43:00 -
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I post what I think and terribly suck at telling lies so I gave up long time ago.
Only one time I have sort of pushed a market (Mackinaws BPCs) but that was in GD and was to make a fool out of Tippia and that other Ruby Porto guy. 
Even auditors need some evil fun some times 
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Felicity Love
Ka'ra Shabuir Inc.
1969
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Posted - 2014.06.27 21:44:00 -
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I like to help people spend their ISK. It's good for the economy.
Interpret that in any way that comforts you.
"Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
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Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
430
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Posted - 2014.06.27 23:14:00 -
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I always post my legitimate analysis, although I may fudge the exact intensity of a move. |
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Adunh Slavy
1527
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Posted - 2014.07.01 22:42:00 -
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I am straight forward, can't say I am always right though.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
320
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Posted - 2014.07.02 02:00:00 -
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I'm always honest.
I only bet what I consider sure things so I'm always right.
Information posted here is only shared once my posistion is locked in or passed up.
You can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest.
Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, 'cause you can never predict if they're going to do something incredibly stupid. |
Rob Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2014.07.02 03:57:00 -
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Post generally asking about mechanics of things, as I'm just starting out in this facet. |
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