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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:07:00 -
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Hi everybody,
A lot of people including me want a little better PVE so we can enjoy more our beloved game EVE.
My suggestion is for level 4.5 security missions.
This will improve the experience of older players in here who simply do sometimes level 4s and new players will simply can t wait to have such an experience.
So what is a level 4.5 security mission?
A level 4.5 security mission is a unique mission with backround story that it will be given after you do some level 4 missions for a corp or faction like republic fleet ,soe, etc.
Those missions will be able to be entered only from one ship (to prevent multiboxing etv and you ll see why later ) and the missioner will be asked before accepting it . The missioner if he doesn t finish it or die won t be able to dock leave or do stuff like that since the pirates will block with some area technology any warping leaving etc.Something like a trap which you either are good and pass or lose your ship.
Those missions are only for players who believe in their ship's,skills and theirselves.
The difficulty of those missions is much higher than level 4s since except the army of pirates you ll face at the end ,a random pvp ship fit boss will appear to protect their unique technology and secrets.This boss will come from a random databate built by players and CCP.For example you might face a 300k ehp tech 3 ship ,an ultrafast high dps nightmare or even a typhoon fleet issue that will do 2k dps etc....
I was thinking even for the boss to use something unique and really rare to beat you that if you win him it will drop .If not that then those missions would really pay very very very well since you might lose your ship and you have been warned before you accept it.
This will be nothing similar to boring unchallenging current missions .This will be a PVE content that everyone will want to enter but also afraid a little cause of the boss they will face and the high risking of losing their ships.
If we want this to be more exciting maybe the final boss will be a real random player with its own ship.Everyone will do the mission for it s reasons.
Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
20
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:40:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Hi everybody,
A lot of people including me want a little better PVE so we can enjoy more our beloved game EVE.
My suggestion is for level 4.5 security missions.
This will improve the experience of older players in here who simply do sometimes level 4s and new players will simply can t wait to have such an experience.
So what is a level 4.5 security mission?
A level 4.5 security mission is a unique mission with backround story that it will be given after you do some level 4 missions for a corp or faction like republic fleet ,soe, etc.
Those missions will be able to be entered only from one ship (to prevent multiboxing etv and you ll see why later ) and the missioner will be asked before accepting it . The missioner if he doesn t finish it or die won t be able to dock leave or do stuff like that since the pirates will block with some area technology any warping leaving etc.Something like a trap which you either are good and pass or lose your ship.
Those missions are only for players who believe in their ship's,skills and theirselves.
The difficulty of those missions is much higher than level 4s since except the army of pirates you ll face at the end ,a random pvp ship fit boss will appear to protect their unique technology and secrets.This boss will come from a random databate built by players and CCP.For example you might face a 300k ehp tech 3 ship ,an ultrafast high dps nightmare or even a typhoon fleet issue that will do 2k dps etc....
I was thinking even for the boss to use something unique and really rare to beat you that if you win him it will drop .If not that then those missions would really pay very very very well since you might lose your ship and you have been warned before you accept it.
This will be nothing similar to boring unchallenging current missions .This will be a PVE content that everyone will want to enter but also afraid a little cause of the boss they will face and the high risking of losing their ships.
If we want this to be more exciting maybe the final boss will be a real random player with its own ship.Everyone will do the mission for it s reasons.
might be a reason to fly my marauder and my links alts |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:45:00 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Hi everybody,
A lot of people including me want a little better PVE so we can enjoy more our beloved game EVE.
My suggestion is for level 4.5 security missions.
This will improve the experience of older players in here who simply do sometimes level 4s and new players will simply can t wait to have such an experience.
So what is a level 4.5 security mission?
A level 4.5 security mission is a unique mission with backround story that it will be given after you do some level 4 missions for a corp or faction like republic fleet ,soe, etc.
Those missions will be able to be entered only from one ship (to prevent multiboxing etv and you ll see why later ) and the missioner will be asked before accepting it . The missioner if he doesn t finish it or die won t be able to dock leave or do stuff like that since the pirates will block with some area technology any warping leaving etc.Something like a trap which you either are good and pass or lose your ship.
Those missions are only for players who believe in their ship's,skills and theirselves.
The difficulty of those missions is much higher than level 4s since except the army of pirates you ll face at the end ,a random pvp ship fit boss will appear to protect their unique technology and secrets.This boss will come from a random databate built by players and CCP.For example you might face a 300k ehp tech 3 ship ,an ultrafast high dps nightmare or even a typhoon fleet issue that will do 2k dps etc....
I was thinking even for the boss to use something unique and really rare to beat you that if you win him it will drop .If not that then those missions would really pay very very very well since you might lose your ship and you have been warned before you accept it.
This will be nothing similar to boring unchallenging current missions .This will be a PVE content that everyone will want to enter but also afraid a little cause of the boss they will face and the high risking of losing their ships.
If we want this to be more exciting maybe the final boss will be a real random player with its own ship.Everyone will do the mission for it s reasons.
might be a reason to fly my marauder and my links alts
I think you haven't read my whole post please read it well how randomness will work and how alts won t be able farm those missions.
Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
364
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:00:00 -
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I think you're mistaken on what a Marauder with an off-grid booster, which can't be prevented from boosting the marauder, is capable of.
Random variables do not increase the difficulty. You just plan for the most difficult scenario and everything else falls into place.
Want more interesting PvE? Ask for adaptive and challenging AI and NPC ship roles to fit. Enjoy missions that regularly find a way to pop your BS. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:04:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:I think you're mistaken on what a Marauder with an off-grid booster, which can't be prevented from boosting the marauder, is capable of.
Random variables do not increase the difficulty. You just plan for the most difficult scenario and everything else falls into place.
Want more interesting PvE? Ask for adaptive and challenging AI and NPC ship roles to fit. Enjoy missions that regularly find a way to pop your BS.
A random boss (which this boss might be a random player and you won t know what to deal etc )with different damage type hit points dps etc won t increase diffuculty?So it s the same to face a marauder a tengu a nightmare etc?Thank you for posting . Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
elitatwo
Congregatio
247
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:14:00 -
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Translation:
I cometh from zee wow game and I likes zee end boss and I want zee wow to be EVE.
Give mah zee end boss like zee wow game and some dragons to fly.
When I haz zee wow game end boss I zen have zee reason to cry in zee forums that I bad at pve.
You want some fries with that too? signature |
Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
115
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:15:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:
A level 4.5 security mission is a unique mission with backround story that it will be given after you do some level 4 missions for a corp or faction like republic fleet ,soe, etc.
We have these, they are called epic arcs. |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
364
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:16:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:
A random boss (which this boss might be a random player and you won t know what to deal etc )with different damage type hit points dps etc won t increase diffuculty?So it s the same to face a marauder a tengu a nightmare etc?Thank you for posting .
It will increase the time the missions take, but so long as the difficulty remains within a reasonable goal people will just max out their ships towards that goal and guarantee victory. If your victory is guaranteed, it's not difficult.
Until the AI changes the only things that will matter in mission running is DPS and tank. The AI does nothing but fly within it's optimal range and activate all modules, without adapting to the situation.
The AI doesn't OH when it starts losing, doesn't try to burn away to any logi support waiting, doesn't shift it's role from DPS to tackle by moving out of optimal and maintaining transversal, doesn't switch damage types.... It is the spaceship equivalent to zombie AI. Run at target and attack. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:29:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:Translation:
I cometh from zee wow game and I likes zee end boss and I want zee wow to be EVE.
Give mah zee end boss like zee wow game and some dragons to fly.
When I haz zee wow game end boss I zen have zee reason to cry in zee forums that I bad at pve.
You want some fries with that too?
Why all people in here don t want to adapt new things that will improve PVE and you think we liked wow or we want to make eve wow?I played wow for 10 mins I play eve for one year+ so you are totally wrong.
Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
366
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:32:00 -
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It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
20
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:39:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote: stuff
might be a reason to fly my marauder and my links alts I think you haven't read my whole post please read it well how randomness will work and how alts won t be able farm those missions.
My paly with my 2 off grid boosters (you know the way you use links) sits at 1000dps (64km optimal) and 1500dps lowest tank to 4k highest tank. This is way overtanked (normaly run less tank but you said it would be "hard" so I added hardeners.) cap stable (again not normally but I was told "hard")
or I do the same but get more dps with a shield tank with an em hole of 3k dps as a tank 4.7k dps omni. again cap stable without the need for cap boosters. dps at 1080.
boths fits don't have drones yet add those on top.
edit: just released I wasn't using good implants for slots 1-6 throw in a hg crystal set and just smile. (or mid grade if your a cheap-o with high sec mission ships and pods) and if these "missions" be truly that hard a blue pill just for safety's sake. |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:45:00 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote: stuff
might be a reason to fly my marauder and my links alts I think you haven't read my whole post please read it well how randomness will work and how alts won t be able farm those missions. My paly with my 2 off grid boosters (you know the way you use links) sits at 1000dps (64km optimal) and 1500dps lowest tank to 4k highest tank. This is way overtanked (normaly run less tank but you said it would be "hard" so I added hardeners.) cap stable (again not normally but I was told "hard") or I do the same but get more dps with a shield tank with an em hole of 3k dps as a tank 4.7k dps omni. again cap stable without the need for cap boosters. dps at 1080. boths fits don't have drones yet add those on top.
You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7478
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:46:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good.
That's just about my position on the matter as well.
Even if they wasted an entire expansion's worth of dev time on more PvE content, it would be mathhammered out in a few days, a week at most. And then it's up on EVE Survival, and is totally trivial to farm just like EVERY other piece of PvE content in the game.
Shooting red crosses will never be anything more than shooting red crosses. Not without computing power that can't be dedicated to the NPCs' AI without screwing server performance. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
20
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:49:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote: stuff
might be a reason to fly my marauder and my links alts I think you haven't read my whole post please read it well how randomness will work and how alts won t be able farm those missions. My paly with my 2 off grid boosters (you know the way you use links) sits at 1000dps (64km optimal) and 1500dps lowest tank to 4k highest tank. This is way overtanked (normaly run less tank but you said it would be "hard" so I added hardeners.) cap stable (again not normally but I was told "hard") or I do the same but get more dps with a shield tank with an em hole of 3k dps as a tank 4.7k dps omni. again cap stable without the need for cap boosters. dps at 1080. boths fits don't have drones yet add those on top. You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill. |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:50:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good.
Agree my friend but read my post .At last lines i say the boss to be a real random player which he will already have subsribed for the level 4.5 .So in that way you might face anything and will be not a.i but real players.
Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
367
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:52:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good. Agree my friend but read my post .At last lines i say the boss to be a real random player which he will already have subsribed for the level 4.5 .So in that way you might face anything and will be not a.i but real players.
That's not PvE, that's PvP and you can already get that running L4's in low sec. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:53:00 -
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You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU! [/quote]
still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill.[/quote]
Ok what if you meet someone with same or better stats?Read my last lines and my post carefully my friend.I suggested to be more competitive maybe the boss would be a random real player who subscribed for the level 4.5 but want to sabaotage you and be awarded from the pirates . Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:55:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good. Agree my friend but read my post .At last lines i say the boss to be a real random player which he will already have subsribed for the level 4.5 .So in that way you might face anything and will be not a.i but real players. That's not PvE, that's PvP and you can already get that running L4's in low sec.
Not in the way i suggest it .A combaination of both and I suggested it as an alternative not it should work like that but i like it. Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
20
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:03:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill.[/quote]
Ok what if you meet someone with same or better stats?Read my last lines and my post carefully my friend.I suggested to be more competitive maybe the boss would be a random real player who subscribed for the level 4.5 but want to sabaotage you and be awarded from the pirates .[/quote]
It would perma tank almost any single ship in the game. It would be a race to see who can neut who first if the other guy has neuts. The marauder is cap stable with a better tank than any sub cap can dish out. if the other guy has no neut and is in a simular set up its a stalemate until downtime. |
Bohneik Itohn
Amarrian Salvage Gnomes and Associates
367
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:07:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good. Agree my friend but read my post .At last lines i say the boss to be a real random player which he will already have subsribed for the level 4.5 .So in that way you might face anything and will be not a.i but real players. That's not PvE, that's PvP and you can already get that running L4's in low sec. Not in the way i suggest it .A combaination of both and I suggested it as an alternative not it should work like that but i like it.
No but really... It is the way you suggest it.... Go run a few L4's in low sec and see what happens.
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:09:00 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill.
Ok what if you meet someone with same or better stats?Read my last lines and my post carefully my friend.I suggested to be more competitive maybe the boss would be a random real player who subscribed for the level 4.5 but want to sabaotage you and be awarded from the pirates .[/quote]
It would perma tank almost any single ship in the game. It would be a race to see who can neut who first if the other guy has neuts. The marauder is cap stable with a better tank than any sub cap can dish out. if the other guy has no neut and is in a simular set up its a stalemate until downtime.
edit: trying to fix the quotes, failed it stays as is[/quote]
I don t think it perma tank a ship with 10k alpha strike or more but maybe the fit would make the difference as you said like neuts etc .And your purpose is to win not to permatank for 8 hours.Maybe a timer limit or something for the mission.
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
159
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:11:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:It's not that we don't want more PvE content, it's that we want good PvE content but since Eve development is focused on PvP we'll only get more of the same trash we already have, and we'd rather time wasn't wasted on sub-par PvE content when those resources could be used improving other parts of the game that really are good. Agree my friend but read my post .At last lines i say the boss to be a real random player which he will already have subsribed for the level 4.5 .So in that way you might face anything and will be not a.i but real players. That's not PvE, that's PvP and you can already get that running L4's in low sec. Not in the way i suggest it .A combaination of both and I suggested it as an alternative not it should work like that but i like it. No but really... It is the way you suggest it.... Go run a few L4's in low sec and see what happens.
Yes either I will be ganked or warp away.It doesn t worth it and the thing i m suggesting is totally different.A whole new PVE content and great adition I think.
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
20
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:25:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:Lady Rift wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
still 1800em dps tank on the shield one. 2700dps omni. before crystals and blue pill. Ok what if you meet someone with same or better stats?Read my last lines and my post carefully my friend.I suggested to be more competitive maybe the boss would be a random real player who subscribed for the level 4.5 but want to sabaotage you and be awarded from the pirates .
It would perma tank almost any single ship in the game. It would be a race to see who can neut who first if the other guy has neuts. The marauder is cap stable with a better tank than any sub cap can dish out. if the other guy has no neut and is in a simular set up its a stalemate until downtime.
edit: trying to fix the quotes, failed it stays as is[/quote]
I don t think it perma tank a ship with 10k alpha strike or more but maybe the fit would make the difference as you said like neuts etc .And your purpose is to win not to permatank for 8 hours.Maybe a timer limit or something for the mission. [/quote]
1800(2800 with implants) shield every 4 seconds. you really should look into the bastion mod. 1400mm arty (pretty sure only thing that does over 10k alpha) has a duration of 16 sec.
Also alpha is useless unless the other ship dies in one hit or bleeds armor or hull on most shots. 10k alpha is what after 70% resists on a ship with 9.5k raw shield.
only very very few ships in the game break 2k damage per second and I've never seen one of these ships set up with active tank (not saying not possible just haven't seen it yet). Most high end battle ships go form 1000 dps to 1500. marauders allow for tanks much greater than that while still doing really good dps at range.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5660
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:04:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone.
No instancing in EVE. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
20
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:07:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone. No instancing in EVE.
he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out, |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:10:00 -
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Lady Rift wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone. No instancing in EVE. he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out, So he's talking about instancing in EVE. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5660
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:10:00 -
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Lady Rift wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone. No instancing in EVE. he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out, Which is pretty much the definition of instancing. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Amarisen Gream
Galactic Republic of Entrepreneurs and Militiamen
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:28:00 -
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*** The MISSION system needs a major over haul. The need to improve the missions they have. Add smarter AI that uses the ships along the roles they where made to be used. Drone boats would use drones. etc.
if the mission system was done properly - you'd be soling 1-3s most of the time due to the smarter AIs. 4s+ would be group/corp missions. where you would need to have more than just a BS to plow your way through to the end boss. You'd need a fleet to help. Ships to web. Ships to jam. Ships to play bait. Ships to heal. etc.
If you want a challenge while we wait for proper PVE mission content, open up the 5/10 + DED sites. and enjoy! xoxo Amarisen Gream http://thegreameve.wordpress.com -Looking to improve the player experience-
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Egravant Alduin
republic fleet battle support
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:29:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Lady Rift wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Egravant Alduin wrote:You won t be able to have link assists or anything else except your ship in the current area.And for this to happen you will be transfered to a location in different unlocatable system or simply the techonlogy of pirates prevets anything from entering their area but you managed to enter somehow.ONLY YOU!
Then you are talking about "instancing" where no one can affect you. And I reject your idea on this basis alone. No instancing in EVE. he is probably going to try to say that it sucks you into a wormhole in to unknown space but this wormhole is a new class and these missions are the only way in or out, Which is pretty much the definition of instancing.
I don t know what instancing is or means but my general sggestion says to have better PVE more challenges more risk and with more risk might come more reward or lose your ship.I really don t understand what bad will do in EVE if we have more PVE content?I mean expansions only bring balance to ships and more balance to ships and no new content.I m not saying that this isn t good i m sayng that this isn t enough for this top game. Feel the wrath of the GECKO! |
Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.25 18:22:00 -
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Egravant Alduin wrote:I don t know what instancing is or means but my general sggestion says to have better PVE more challenges more risk and with more risk might come more reward or lose your ship.I really don t understand what bad will do in EVE if we have more PVE content?I mean expansions only bring balance to ships and more balance to ships and no new content.I m not saying that this isn t good i m sayng that this isn t enough for this top game.
So, there actually is a lot of PvE content in the game. Most of us think it needs to be more engaging, as it sustains many of our wallets and has become a chore. If you are tired of L4s and want a challenge...
1)DED sites and escalations - some are fairly difficult, escalations even sometimes have this boss you seek. 2)Wormholes 3)Incursions 4)Epic Arcs 5)Level V missions
So there really is plenty. I've probably missed a few as well. You may want to consider trying all of these first, before wanting more. |
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