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Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.26 11:07:00 -
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Can we please get the possibilty to share hangars?
I know there are Corp hangars already, But I am tired of contracting modules back and forth between my Alts just because they are not in the same corp.
Make it cost a plex to connect two accounts this way, or a monthly isk fee for every single station (call it personal shared buro hangar), but please let us get rid of this annoyance! |
Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Brothers of Tangra
39
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Posted - 2014.06.26 11:15:00 -
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that's probably the most dangerous suggestion I have heard in years.
so dangerous it shouldn't even need pointing out. |
Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.26 11:47:00 -
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Please explain! What is dangerous? Or just trolling because it has been suggested before? |
Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Brothers of Tangra
39
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:02:00 -
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how do ccp know that x toon is yours without using e-mail addresses to match accounts (dear ccp, account xxx with toon yyy can be linked to my account. -- yoik all assets gone)
would screw up asset api;s to no end
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
456
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:21:00 -
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No.
Use corporations for their intended purposes.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:27:00 -
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 Invite/accept maybe? Just the same way it works for 1000000 other things in eve.
For example Fleets/Corps/Station Trade.
Making it Scammable is a whole new idea. I would be perfectly ok with this.
Intended Purpose is making money and working Hard! This game should be fun! At least from time to times.  |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
Vertical.
641
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:32:00 -
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I'm this guy's alt, give me access to jita 4-4 hangarz.
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
Overload Everything
572
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:47:00 -
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I can't help but think this is a can or worms that doesn't need opening.
Not supported.
Now if you had a reasonable suggestion for a more rapid and less painful way to switch between characters on an account rather than the whole logout then log back in it would be a different matter.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.06.26 13:04:00 -
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I dont get why someone should not want to allow it.
I just want my chars to be able to fit their ships from the same stack of modules, without contracting a whole container from main to alt and back when the job is done. I dont want to Spam the Corphangars with my fitting crap or passworded containers. Thats why i suggested the 'private shared hangar'.
1. Let my main Rent a Hangar for 2 or even more accounts (as station service) and pay for it monthly.
2. My main invites my alt to the shared Hangar.
3. My alt accepts the offer.
4. Main puts all those modules in there.
5. Profit! |
Claud Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.06.26 13:15:00 -
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Good idea. So long as both characters have formally agreed to the shared hanger and understand the consequences.
I'm kind of surprised that its not already in EVE.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
Saint Germain
Sekundu
14
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:14:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:
Use corporations for their intended purposes.
Managing alts? |
Saint Germain
Sekundu
14
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:19:00 -
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Fling Salvage wrote:I dont get why someone should not want to allow it.
I just want my chars to be able to fit their ships from the same stack of modules, without contracting a whole container from main to alt and back when the job is done. I dont want to Spam the Corphangars with my fitting crap or passworded containers. Thats why i suggested the 'private shared hangar'.
1. Let my main Rent a Hangar for 2 or even more accounts (as station service) and pay for it monthly.
2. My main invites my alt to the shared Hangar.
3. My alt accepts the offer.
4. Main puts all those modules in there.
5. Profit!
Sounds good, I'd like this. I'd also like to have a shared wallet account... should be possible along the same lines you outlined here. |
FunGu Arsten
Fungu .Inc
22
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:31:00 -
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Fling Salvage wrote:I dont get why someone should not want to allow it.
I just want my chars to be able to fit their ships from the same stack of modules, without contracting a whole container from main to alt and back when the job is done. I dont want to Spam the Corphangars with my fitting crap or passworded containers. Thats why i suggested the 'private shared hangar'.
1. Let my main Rent a Hangar for 2 or even more accounts (as station service) and pay for it monthly.
2. My main invites my alt to the shared Hangar.
3. My alt accepts the offer.
4. Main puts all those modules in there.
5. Profit!
Please explain me the difference with corp hanger
You seem to be making alot of fuzz about stuff that comes from you beeing !lazy!...
Contract stuff to alts and use trade mechanics that are in the game.
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Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:48:00 -
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This is a game! Things should be fun?!?!
Quote:Please explain me the difference with corp hanger
No corp buro slot needed (staging system anyone)!
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Out of corp chars would get some love too!
+
no need to mess around with corp hangar Layouts putting 100 containers (for each corp member) in there |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
155
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Posted - 2014.06.26 14:58:00 -
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Don't achorable secure (with password) containers work that way ????'
Same stupid shared wallet principle, I got loads of toons and maybe contract/sent money once every 3-6months. You know, I don't sent 12.000 isk for a skillbook every 20 minutes...
I sent appropirate money for a few months in advance, knowing what is needed. And one industry toon skilled properly for selling gets loot/ore once every few weeks, patience and forthought and planning is really bad i heard.
-1 <<< That's a big super minus btw.
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6903
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Posted - 2014.06.26 15:10:00 -
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Ncc 1709 wrote:how do ccp know that x toon is yours without using e-mail addresses to match accounts (dear ccp, account xxx with toon yyy can be linked to my account. -- yoik all assets gone)
would screw up asset api;s to no end
As well as it would almost certainly be used to 'launder' RMT'd isk and items.
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Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:19:00 -
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I am not talking about a shared wallet or rmt here.
Big Minus for what? A COntainer with password is no replacement for what i suggested... |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
158
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:33:00 -
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Fling Salvage wrote:I am not talking about a shared wallet or rmt here.
Big Minus for what? A COntainer with password is no replacement for what i suggested...
Not ? I am sure your shared hangar has the same possible ability to store stuff as a container and when you log in with your alt, I think you enter a password ... am I wrong ?
Click hangar, add stuff, log out, log in take stuff out.
Click container, add stuff, log out, log in, add password take stuff out. -> one PW more, guess that puts it in line with 4 click contracts, my bad, horrible. And in case there is an 'allow' list, then you can skip that too. And to fill it with ore/loot/stuff from another market, you don't even have to dock up .
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
51
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Posted - 2014.06.26 18:57:00 -
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API keys for one character would have to return info for all attached characters. |
Fling Salvage
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.06.26 19:25:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Fling Salvage wrote:I am not talking about a shared wallet or rmt here.
Big Minus for what? A COntainer with password is no replacement for what i suggested... Not ? I am sure your shared hangar has the same possible ability to store stuff as a container and when you log in with your alt, I think you enter a password ... am I wrong ? Click hangar, add stuff, log out, log in take stuff out. Click container, add stuff, log out, log in, add password take stuff out. -> one PW more, guess that puts it in line with 4 click contracts, my bad, horrible. And in case there is an 'allow' list, then you can skip that too. And to fill it with ore/loot/stuff from another market, you don't even have to dock up . Oh, and I haven't called this thread redundant yet, have I, time to report for 'cloud' exploitism to avoid rule breaking consequences.
Well the container has to be placed in a hangar when we talk about Outposts. Therefore you need an shared corp hangar. What about Chars that are not in the same corp or an corp bureau is unavailiable... I am NOT talking about an anchored container in a POS.
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Dally Lama
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2014.06.27 21:47:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Don't achorable secure (with password) containers work that way ????'
Same stupid shared wallet principle, I got loads of toons and maybe contract/sent money once every 3-6months. You know, I don't sent 12.000 isk for a skillbook every 20 minutes...
I sent appropirate money for a few months in advance, knowing what is needed. And one industry toon skilled properly for selling gets loot/ore once every few weeks, patience and forthought and planning is really bad i heard.
-1 <<< That's a big super minus btw.
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Fling Salvage wrote:I am not talking about a shared wallet or rmt here.
Big Minus for what? A COntainer with password is no replacement for what i suggested... Not ? I am sure your shared hangar has the same possible ability to store stuff as a container and when you log in with your alt, I think you enter a password ... am I wrong ? Click hangar, add stuff, log out, log in take stuff out. Click container, add stuff, log out, log in, add password take stuff out. -> one PW more, guess that puts it in line with 4 click contracts, my bad, horrible. And in case there is an 'allow' list, then you can skip that too. And to fill it with ore/loot/stuff from another market, you don't even have to dock up . Oh, and I haven't called this thread redundant yet, have I, time to report for 'cloud' exploitism to avoid rule breaking consequences. @dit: Not to bump this: Yes, I am talking anchoring ... otherwise I would be really stupid. Hint, I talked about not having to dock up, and know about the non-corp alts in regards to station containers .
*sigh*
You once again base your entire opinion on your own ignorance. It wouldn't be an issue if you weren't so aggressive about it at times... not sure what your deal is with that. You seem like a decent fella half the time, and like a rabid child the other half. I'm really not trying to be mean, just what I've observed. If you would take the time to understand what is being discussed instead of thinking you are always right, you might come out of the experience with new conclusions.
Your suggestion of using a container is not acceptable. There are players whom have many, many alts. A container anchorable in space is not a feasible, reasonable solution to shared hangars.
1) They are in space.
2) Having to type a password each time on a dozen alts
3) They are extremely limited in size
4) Cannot be managed remotely like hangars
5) Space litter is bad
If you want to play the role of forum traffic cop that's fine, it's your life... just try not to be so quick to jump the gun. You seem to think that your own inability to understand why an idea is relevant makes the idea irrelevant. Never has someone's signature applied more to themselves than yours does to you. 
This idea is great, a definite +1 from me. I am guessing the people scolding the idea do not actually have a whole lot of alts, and are just speaking out of their butts as per usual on this forum.
Anyone who actually knows what they are talking about (i.e. has a strong collection of alts) supports this.
New Fitting Window | Distances above 10km | Maximums for buy orders |
Ethenia AD
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.28 02:02:00 -
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Dally Lama wrote:
This idea is great, a definite +1 from me. I am guessing the people scolding the idea do not actually have a whole lot of alts, and are just speaking out of their butts as per usual on this forum.
Anyone who actually knows what they are talking about (i.e. has a strong collection of alts) supports this.
QFT lol. all the multiboxers I know would love this. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
170
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Posted - 2014.06.28 08:48:00 -
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Dally Lama wrote: Never has someone's signature applied more to themselves than yours does to you.
Touche ,)
But you do misunderstand my arguing, personally as a player I would love this, but game design is not about what single player love personally without considering the possibilities to be exploited, to break certain game mechanics or to further laziness or are simply against the doctrine of how the game was envisioned to function.
The shared hangar as well as the shared wallet concept (other thread) further a 'cloud' principle that is easy to exploit and circumvent certain rules without consequences (not naming them to make ppl aware of them).
The things I mentioned are not the best in performing the same task with equal ease, but do the job with a little annoyance spiced in to make you 'work' for your gains.
And I do understand working with many alts and have no problem whatsoever, there are already multiple ways, which also cater to the roleplaying aspect of the game, meaning flying different chars instead of an account with alts and treating the interaction between them as such.
That said, as a player you would get +1;
as a game designer you would get a -1
So don't get me wrong, if I give mixed signals, I try to listen to both of my aspects, but the developer side usually wins. If my inner dialog shows too much and seems incoherent, then it's my bad 
PS: We tend to agree and disagree a lot about multiple issues, which shows we are neither *yay* not *nay* sayer and having actual dialogs, which I think this is a ll about. 
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Saint Germain
Sekundu
16
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Posted - 2014.06.28 09:10:00 -
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The whole corporation system is being revamped anyway, maybe we'll get new tools that will apply in these cases, and make life easier for us all. |
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