Would you like some cheese with that whine?

As one that has invested almost 200 bil isk in titan BPOs and lived for quite some time from copying those, i am curious if this will still be possible after Crius patch hits. Right now the prices for a titan bpc are between 2 and 7 bil isk, and it is already pretty hard to sell some of them as there are fewer titans built. Once a copy will take 2 weeks instead of 4 months, the prices will probably drop under 500 mil isk, which is ridiculous for a 60bil+ BPO.

How about making some changes that do not hit veteran players for once ?

I'd suggest selling your titan bpos before the release

petition says "post your concerns in the forums, we cannot answer them in petitions, in the forums the dev will SURELY answer them".

YEAH RIGHT.

i will buy your hilariously discounted avatar and ragnorak bpcs for no more than ~100m isk per once i need some, so you will continue to receive some tiny amount of income for doing no work

What do you expect them to say? Oh a change in the game isn't benefiting you in a positive way that you like? By all means lets cancel the expansion.

Once a copy will take 2 weeks instead of 4 months, the prices will probably drop under 500 mil isk, which is ridiculous for a 60bil+ BPO.

So instead of making 2-7 billion in 4 months off a BPO, you expect to make around 4 billion in the same timeframe.

Yes that would be very true if the titan building will increase 8-fold :)

Yes that would be very true if the titan building will increase 8-fold :)

The interaction of supply and demand seem to indicate that's what you believe will be the case. If you did not believe in an eight-fold increase in demand, I'm curious as to why you think the price is going to be relatively stable instead of crashing until the excess supply is driven out of the market.

Going from 4 bil to ( probably lower than ) 500 mil - relatively stable ? There should be some changes in the supercap building mechanism in order to keep the market relatively stable. Like, allowing them to be built without sov, or in lowsec systems.

Still waiting for a DEV answer as the GM that answered my petition childishly thinks i would get one...

let us make supercaps, one of the game's biggest balance problems, much more common just to save your passive income source

this seems reasonable to me

You could ask for a refund. I heard that is going really well for everyone else screwed by this patch:
-People with over-reseached BPO's (e.g. ME/PE 500)
-People with a large number of research POS modules
-People producing research POS modules
-People with Mat. Efficiency V

Rumor has it the internal codename for this release is "bend over and take it"

And the PCU indicates that a number of people have chosen another option.

And the PCU indicates that a number of people have chosen another option.

And many more will choose that option as well when the full effects of Crius hit, and the high sec manufacturers come to grips with the fact that any lucrative product line has now been taken from them and handed to null sec.

Basically, things will get cooler with more variety, challenges, and opportunities for smart players to do better, but overall the landscape will not change much. Sadly, since most Eve players are stupid, they will, as you say, quit Eve, or at least stop doing industry. But for me, I really only need the PvPers to stick around so I can sell them ships.

As one that has invested almost 200 bil isk in titan BPOs and lived for quite some time from copying those, i am curious if this will still be possible after Crius patch hits. Right now the prices for a titan bpc are between 2 and 7 bil isk, and it is already pretty hard to sell some of them as there are fewer titans built. Once a copy will take 2 weeks instead of 4 months, the prices will probably drop under 500 mil isk, which is ridiculous for a 60bil+ BPO.

How about making some changes that do not hit veteran players for once ?

In this thread: veteran player with researched titan bpo's turns to EVE-O forums for business and game mechanic research less than 24 hrs before an expansion that has been dissected ad nauseam over the past 3 months in dev blogs, features/ideas threads, SiSi feedback threads, and several hundred player blogs, threads, and whines.

I take it your saying is "coming from a nullsec player, hisec still has opportunities, but i have moved to nullsec". Calling people stupid because they do not necessarily like "variety, challenges and opportunities" and generally to do what you do ( in a GAME ! ) is not a good way to prove you are smarter mate. Industry and high sec is full of casual players who have worked hard and for long time for what they own and they see everything going away with one swift move from CCP who does not even care enough to answer their concerns. If anyone chooses to leave the game instead of starting over to build his wealth again, how can you blame him ?

I am playing this game since '09 and worked my a** off to have the isk to buy those BPOs. I have been a miner in hisec, in nullsec, i have joined faction wars, i have done hundreds of shipping routes with freighters and jump freighters, i have done thousand of missions and i woke up mornings at 3am for CTAs, thinking that at some point i could have a steady passive income that would allow me to play this game for FUN without having to serve some alliance to get those isk for PLEXes and ships. Now my 200 bil worth BPOs become practically useless assets and i have to think on another way to invest any isk i can get by selling them. While i do not think i would leave the game because of that, the fact that CCP does not even bother to answer my concerns and explain WHY did they HAVE to do that is really very disturbing, and yes, THAT could make me leave this game, at least until ( if ever ) they come back to their senses and learn to appreciate steady hard working veteran players.

Not 24 hours... actually after quite a few posts in threads maintained by CCP devs and several unanswered petitions made on different chars.

Sorry, man, I don't feel for you. The Crius changes make industry more of a game unto itself, that can be won by being smart. Sorry if you don't like that. I do.