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kahn zim
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Posted - 2014.06.28 12:15:00 -
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adition of a trully mini carrier (sub capital ship with no guns)
either with 2-3 highs for utility or a real mini carrier with bonus to drones and reps
i would love to see it with 3 sizes (frig , cruiser , battleship) but i have to admit that the size that would make the most sense would for it to be a command ship (it still makes sense for for them not to use guns since they are suport ships {in their own way})
those 2 are probally all over the place
rigs for damage aplication for drones
its nice that there is a optimal range rig, but i think the adition of adition rigs could make it way more interesting.
like tracking and not sentry drone damage (rigs for combat drones)
drone implants
as it may be obvious to those still reading i quite enjoy drones
and the lack of drone implants makes me a little sad.
modules for damage aplication on missiles
a tracking computer for misiles
but not for range or tracking(?)
but explosion radius and velocity.
more destroyers and battlecruiser
i love those but they are the least loved =(
i would be really happy to see faction/pirate and more t2 version of those.
this idea if horrible (even more)
a shield leech module, this seems broken and fun.
please be nice.
kahn zim |
Velicitia
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Posted - 2014.06.28 12:29:00 -
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well, you were right -- they are crap ideas.
Mini Carrier -- sounds more like you're looking for a logi boat than a "carrier". If you're looking for drone boats, then Domi, Myrmi, Vexor, Trisan (for gallente anyway, IDK what the amarrian lineup is).
The rest -- not thought out enough at all -- you need to give details beyond "well, I think it would be cool if..."
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kahn zim
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Posted - 2014.06.28 12:39:00 -
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i kinda tried to actually not give any numbers or specifics since i will screwup in balancing
"Mini Carrier -- sounds more like you're looking for a logi boat than a "carrier". If you're looking for drone boats, then Domi, Myrmi, Vexor, Trisan (for gallente anyway, IDK what the amarrian lineup is)."
while i like all those ships then dont really fell like a mini carrier, as for them weapon are either needed or at very least adviced.
edit: i mean most of them are even bonused towards guns
about the destroyers and battlecruisers
i really cant think of a new t2 for them as it involves giving them a new role.
but meta 6 of the existing ones would be nice
maybe a algos going like a vni
2 bonus for drones.
sorry for lacking more exact information.
i would love to read whatever anyone thinks |
Syrix Death
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Posted - 2014.06.28 12:58:00 -
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Hey guis!
I really like the idea bout introducing pirate faction bc and more T2 bc. its ofc up to ccp to find a suiteable role for those ships. Just as example it would be great to have a cloaky pirate faction SOE BC as on-side support for hotdrops (like a mini combat blops).
Concerning mini carriers - there are already enough sub-capital drone boats
EDIT: i think its also a good idea to introduce pirate faction carriers in order to provide more expensive targets for hotdrop ops. the selling point of pirate faction carriers for rich nullbears could be good bonuses on drone dmg and tracking or so |
Tujiko Noriko
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Posted - 2014.06.28 13:30:00 -
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Kahnpls
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Fer'isam K'ahn
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Posted - 2014.06.28 13:38:00 -
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Heh, first I thought ... nah, not going to read it, then, hey, looks like rhymes and poetry, better read it, well ... 
Like the others, I am really not sure what you want, your references are all over the place. Your definition of 'carrier' is not even clear, nor is any function or ingame relation. But in your favor, that gives the option to fill it with a good hearted and positive want of my own 
The 'carrier' (rather then just a 'drone boat'), is in need of a feeling of awe, something I very well understand and led to a lot of frustration when looking at my baby the Rattlesnake (don't start a discussion about its PvP balance/application now).
I understand the need to take drone control down from 10 to max 5 for subcaps, but I wish we could balance this out somehow. Instead of all max 5, we could go all max 2 - with few exceptions of 5 and 10 (with changed boni) for the 'real' drone boats and drone carriers. The 'super' drone concept could ease the way in this regard and help balance out the total number of drones used towards the few ships that will be able to fleet more.
This also would work in conjunction with the Orca suggestion of being able to fleet 10-20 mining drones (T2 Orca, currently as +300% yield suggested)
But besides this roughly drawn out and personal dream of mine, I always remind people that new ships are only going to be developed if they fill a certain niche, fit a specific role that is wanted and are in conjuction with the current lore. But I hope with the recent exultation of drones to be a fully armed and operational weapon systemwe might one day get our Subcap 'Carriers' 
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Otsdarva IV
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Posted - 2014.06.28 14:47:00 -
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kahn zim
Dirt 'n' Glitter
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2014.06.28 15:10:00 -
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to me a carrier is a drone boat with no acess to guns
with either less highs slots or bonus to rep.
i know that there are many drone boats, but to me none really fell like a mini-carrier, a ship that doesnt need guns to apply its max dps.
an idea and comparison would be a new t2 bs like the maurader is a mini dread maybe a new ship with a mini triage. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
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Posted - 2014.06.28 15:47:00 -
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Ok, I understand a bit more now, basically a bit of a pepped up Nestor. You can't fit T2 lasers anyway for max dps for many reasons and you got the rep boni etc, but lack some bandwidth.
But as far as I undestand from latest request for BS logi etc and them taken down, there is nor real need/gap between T2 cruiser logi and Carriers as it is. It's only a perceived gap, not an efficiancy gap; or how you would call that.
A rough carrier concept would look like this ?
Helios (T2 Hyperion new launch bay skin)
Gallante BS 5 Marauders 1 (placeholder)
High 4 Turrets 0 Launchers 0
Mid 5
Low 7
CPU (no comment, not at home)
PG (no c..)
Cap (not enough to run 4 Heavy Neuts + the mods)
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Speed: 90m/sec
Drone bay: 600 m3
Drone bandwidht: 100m bit
Gallente Battleship:
+200% Medium Remote Armor Repair range / level
+7,5% Drone Tracking / level
Marauder:
+1 Drone / level
+20% drone optimal range / level
Role bonus/ traits
-20% Drone Damage
+33% Drone hitpoints
Just an example of a quick sketch, no real suggestion, so don't flame pls.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.06.28 16:29:00 -
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kahn zim wrote:.
i know that there are many drone boats, but to me none really fell like a mini-carrier, a ship that doesnt need guns to apply its max dps.
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