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Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2011.11.19 14:55:00 -
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Bubbles are an instant locking infinite point that covers an 80km sphere.
This is insufficient, people can MWD a battlecruiser out in less than 60 seconds, this means anyone can just avoid my camps.
Bubbles should stop MWD and apply a stasis effect. PVP would be vastly improved if bubbling turned off MWD and reduced speeds by 90% (the equivalent of dual web)
This would greatly increase the value of hulls, mods, and implants.
Warring into a bubble should be a. 100% I just lost my ship and pod scenario.
Right now 10% of people get away everytime :-( :'( :-$ :-\ |

indiana bones
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:01:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:people can MWD a battlecruiser out in less than 60 seconds, this means anyone can just avoid my camps.
You're either really bad or just stupid. They should be dead long before then. Get better or GTFO.
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Causalitii Eullon
C.A.S. Assisted Living
2
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:01:00 -
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Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:04:00 -
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Bubbles are like the way **** Cheney hunts.
(Richard? Will that get by the Puritanical censor?)
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
11
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:05:00 -
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We need some way to catch JFs. Currently they warp to POS and Explode, or warpto the Lowsec Gate and can't be caught. Bubbles should pull any ship jumping in system to the bubble.
BTW: Umadbro? Some drake burn out of your bubble before you could lock? |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:07:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:We need some way to catch JFs. Currently they warp to POS and Explode, or warpto the Lowsec Gate and can't be caught. Bubbles should pull any ship jumping in system to the bubble. BTW: Umadbro? Some drake burn out of your bubble before you could lock? And guns should hit people without having to aim them. Who needs marksmanship anyway? Just another useless skill.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises The Silent One's
107
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:07:00 -
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You realize your proposed changes would make freighters insta-warp if they happen to jump into a system surrounded by a bubble? |

Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:07:00 -
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Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious.
American right?
I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%.
Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. |

Autonomous Monster
Paradox Interstellar
30
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:09:00 -
[9] - Quote
9/10
Would only have been 4/10, but I'm impressed by how many people took you seriously.  |

indiana bones
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:11:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s.
lol, you start attacking others for misreading your dumbass post |

Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
32
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:12:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s.
Wow you just alienated 32% of the eve population and about 40% of the eve forum poster population. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:13:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. See? Americans aren't that greedy after all!
Bubbles are for the skill-challenged.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
11
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:16:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:You realize your proposed changes would make freighters insta-warp if they happen to jump into a system surrounded by a bubble?
Hang on. You thought I was serious there? Are you High? Also if you jump into a Nullsec system via gate in a *Jump*Freighter, you deserve the loss on your km. |

Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:17:00 -
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indiana bones wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. lol, you start attacking others for misreading your dumbass post
No wonder nobody likes you, you blame others for your shortcoming.
Too fat to fail |

Generals4
Caldari State
356
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:18:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Bubbles are an instant locking infinite point that covers an 80km sphere.
This is insufficient, people can MWD a battlecruiser out in less than 60 seconds, this means anyone can just avoid my camps.
Bubbles should stop MWD and apply a stasis effect. PVP would be vastly improved if bubbling turned off MWD and reduced speeds by 90% (the equivalent of dual web)
This would greatly increase the value of hulls, mods, and implants.
Warring into a bubble should be a. 100% I just lost my ship and pod scenario.
Right now 10% of people get away everytime :-( :'( :-$ :-\
I see what you did there.
4/10 -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

indiana bones
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:21:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:indiana bones wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. lol, you start attacking others for misreading your dumbass post No wonder nobody likes you, you blame others for your shortcoming. Too fat to fail
ROFL!! :popcorn:
IBTL |

Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
96
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:24:00 -
[17] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:Bubbles are an instant locking infinite point that covers an 80km sphere.
This is insufficient, people can MWD a battlecruiser out in less than 60 seconds, this means anyone can just avoid my camps.
Bubbles should stop MWD and apply a stasis effect. PVP would be vastly improved if bubbling turned off MWD and reduced speeds by 90% (the equivalent of dual web)
This would greatly increase the value of hulls, mods, and implants.
Warring into a bubble should be a. 100% I just lost my ship and pod scenario.
Right now 10% of people get away everytime :-( :'( :-$ :-\
Buff everything i like and nerf everything i dont |

Joe Skellington
Caldari Elite Force Independence..
28
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:25:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s.
Run out of ideas? Only a douche talks **** about another nationality to bolster their argument. -á-á |\_/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
594
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:43:00 -
[19] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:
Bubbles should stop MWD and apply a stasis effect. PVP would be vastly improved if bubbling turned off MWD and reduced speeds by 90% (the equivalent of dual web)
Whilst you're at it, why not add a 10000 DPS smartbomb effect to bubbles? morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |

T' Elk
Happy Little Spaceships
160
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:52:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:You realize your proposed changes would make freighters insta-warp if they happen to jump into a system surrounded by a bubble? ...what? Excluding the stupidity of jumping a freighter into null without the proper scouting and escort, YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY A ******* BUBBLE. That means you are pointed, it does not matter if you are webbed or not... Also, webbing a freighter to insta-warp only works if the webbing is started once they've initiated the warp, and with this they'd be webbed as soon as they jumped in. God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
144
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:00:00 -
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Joe Skellington wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. Run out of ideas? Only a douche talks **** about another nationality to bolster their argument. American here.
Confirming that I'm not offended that our education system sucks, just offended by the morons who think it's an attack on their nationality (lol) by pointing it out.
It's not Rocket Surgery |

FluffyDice
StarFckers Inc. The Jagged Alliance
40
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:00:00 -
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Why do i get the feeling OP is not being serious yet a bunch of people will fly off the handle before realising it? |

Russell Casey
One Ton Reverberation Project
95
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:06:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:indiana bones wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. lol, you start attacking others for misreading your dumbass post No wonder nobody likes you, you blame others for your shortcoming. Too fat to fail
Unless you're from Vietnam we kicked your ass or bought your country at some point. |

Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises The Silent One's
107
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:20:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:You realize your proposed changes would make freighters insta-warp if they happen to jump into a system surrounded by a bubble? Hang on. You thought I was serious there? Are you High? Also if you jump into a Nullsec system via gate in a *Jump*Freighter, you deserve the loss on your kb.
Actually, in eveonline it is common to refer to the use of regular stargates as a "jump". And my use of the word "Freighter" and not "jump freighter" i think this was obvious i was referring to peolpe jumping freighters through 0.0 space.
If you think this is dumb or highly uncommon and only done by idiots, you're wrong. Many major alliances do convoys with freighters thourgh 0.0.
Anyways, aside from all that, i do think we need 'webbing' bubbles in addition to the current warp bubbles we have |

Joe Skellington
Caldari Elite Force Independence..
29
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:22:00 -
[25] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:Joe Skellington wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. Run out of ideas? Only a douche talks **** about another nationality to bolster their argument. American here. Confirming that I'm not offended that our education system sucks, just offended by the morons who think it's an attack on their nationality (lol) by pointing it out.
So, I'm a moron because I have the opinion that using nationality to try to derail someone in an argument is counter productive? So be it. -á-á |\_/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
348
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:26:00 -
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Autonomous Monster wrote:9/10 Would only have been 4/10, but I'm impressed by how many people took you seriously. 
not empty floating
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
11
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:53:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:You realize your proposed changes would make freighters insta-warp if they happen to jump into a system surrounded by a bubble? Hang on. You thought I was serious there? Are you High? Also if you jump into a Nullsec system via gate in a *Jump*Freighter, you deserve the loss on your kb. Actually, in eveonline it is common to refer to the use of regular stargates as a "jump". And my use of the word "Freighter" and not "jump freighter" i think this was obvious i was referring to peolpe jumping freighters through 0.0 space. If you think this is dumb or highly uncommon and only done by idiots, you're wrong. Many major alliances do convoys with freighters thourgh 0.0. Anyways, aside from all that, i do think we need 'webbing' bubbles in addition to the current warp bubbles we have
OP's (terrible) Suggestion was to add webbing effects to bubbles. They'd still prevent warp, but they'd also slow you down. Freighter gates in, Bubble+Web=Death, no instawarp.
My (troll) suggestion was to make bubbles drag JFs(and other caps) to the bubble as soon as they Cyno in.
Neither suggestion implies insta warp, and though I can kind of see how you might get instawarp freighter from OP, i thought you were commenting on my post.
Convoys of Freighters occur regularly and generally suck to be a part of. Going through a nullsec gate in a JumpFreighter is fairly insane, primarily because it doesn't need to. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
154
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:53:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Bubbles are an instant locking infinite point that covers an 80km sphere.
This is insufficient, people can MWD a battlecruiser out in less than 60 seconds, this means anyone can just avoid my camps.
...
Right now 10% of people get away everytime :-( :'( :-$ :-\
Yet another request for an "I win" button. You just admitted that you are killing 90% of the people, and are bitching about the 10% lucky/smart enough to get away? Go back to Hello Kitty online, camper-bear. There, the troll has been fed. |

David Estarra
Starside Lost
39
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Posted - 2011.11.19 17:23:00 -
[29] - Quote
Hehehe..
I'm surprised so many people have fallen for this one.. I read it and thought 'too obvious'.. apparently not!
Nice one OP  |

Klown Walk
iCruiser.
1
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Posted - 2011.11.19 17:24:00 -
[30] - Quote
Bubbles should drain all the cap. |

Amro One
One.
26
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Posted - 2011.11.19 17:45:00 -
[31] - Quote
Bubbles should Be ECM burst to, and tracking disrupting and sensor dampening.
But Mostly ECM burst. So we all can look like freaking moron like the OP is.
You mad bro ? |

Aamrr
HnL Enterprise
151
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Posted - 2011.11.19 17:47:00 -
[32] - Quote
Sarcasm detectors must be going up in price. Maybe I can get a good bid on mine... |

OmniBeton
OmniBeton Metatech
2
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Posted - 2011.11.19 17:54:00 -
[33] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:Bubbles are an instant locking infinite point that covers an 80km sphere.
This is insufficient, people can MWD a battlecruiser out in less than 60 seconds, this means anyone can just avoid my camps.
Bubbles should stop MWD and apply a stasis effect. PVP would be vastly improved if bubbling turned off MWD and reduced speeds by 90% (the equivalent of dual web)
This would greatly increase the value of hulls, mods, and implants.
Warring into a bubble should be a. 100% I just lost my ship and pod scenario.
Right now 10% of people get away everytime :-( :'( :-$ :-\
You forgot to add shields jamming effect reducting their resistances to 0% |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
782
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Posted - 2011.11.19 19:16:00 -
[34] - Quote
I lolled.
0/10 |

Causalitii Eullon
C.A.S. Assisted Living
3
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Posted - 2011.11.19 21:47:00 -
[35] - Quote
Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s.
If you are bitching about losing that 10% then you are obviously doing just fine. Either you are more greedy than any American I know or you really don't use the bubbles as efficiently as you claim.
Now to address the comment about being American.... :3
Yes, proud to be American, you're just pissed we blew you up would be my guess. And if you aren't then we are probly coming soon o7 |

Causalitii Eullon
C.A.S. Assisted Living
3
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Posted - 2011.11.19 21:48:00 -
[36] - Quote
I was ganked |

Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
33
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Posted - 2011.11.19 23:26:00 -
[37] - Quote
Large Collidable Object wrote:Wot I Think wrote:
Bubbles should stop MWD and apply a stasis effect. PVP would be vastly improved if bubbling turned off MWD and reduced speeds by 90% (the equivalent of dual web)
Whilst you're at it, why not add a 10000 DPS smartbomb effect to bubbles?
I'd vote for that. Anchor bubble on gate, go AFK for a few hours, come back and check how many idiot KM's with failfits I got     |

Renfus
0DAMN
1
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Posted - 2011.11.20 00:27:00 -
[38] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Causalitii Eullon wrote:Yes, post your stupid idea on an alt so you don't get your ass torn out too bad. If you don't know how to use a bubble im not surprised you only catch 10% of what lands in it.
Obvious idiot is obvious. American right? I heard your education sucked. If you learned how to read you would see I catch 90%. Also to the "60 seconds is long enough" Brakes and Armor canes easily last longer than 60s. See? Americans aren't that greedy after all! Bubbles are for the skill-challenged.
Hey thats me!!! I need a bubble that kills mwds, webs & jams them !!! Make it happen CCP!!! |

Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2011.11.20 00:40:00 -
[39] - Quote
Bubbles represent the highest player skill available in EVE, if you can't handle a game of skill stay in highsec.
CCP knew talented players like myself existed so they made highsec a haven for the terrible.
No badger has ever busted my pilgrim + bubble solo camp.
Never lost a recon to date :-) |

Pelador Rova
Blackstar Privateer Consortium
28
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Posted - 2011.11.20 01:07:00 -
[40] - Quote
I think if you find yourself in someone else's bubble your character's skin should be painted bubble gum pink and the stain will remain for 2 weeks with no way of removing. (Includes potrait modification in Eve and Forum).  |

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations 0ccupational Hazzard
8
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Posted - 2011.11.20 19:20:00 -
[41] - Quote
2/10 on my trollometer |

Jace Errata
Cobalt Valkyrie Industries The Ambivalent
36
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Posted - 2011.11.20 23:50:00 -
[42] - Quote
Aside from the obvious trolling, there was a suggestion made for a webbing bubble. Now, I'm not a lowsec or 0.0 pilot, but a web bubble sounds like a fairly good idea, provided the web bubble is a seperate bubble type to a warp bubble, and there is an effect reduction if a warp bubble and a web bubble overlap. Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k? ... ... OH WAIT. Jace Errata on Twitter |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
12
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Posted - 2011.11.21 00:09:00 -
[43] - Quote
Jace Errata wrote:Aside from the obvious trolling, there was a suggestion made for a webbing bubble. Now, I'm not a lowsec or 0.0 pilot, but a web bubble sounds like a fairly good idea, provided the web bubble is a seperate bubble type to a warp bubble, and there is an effect reduction if a warp bubble and a web bubble overlap.
There's no real way to reduce the effect of a bubble (since it's an infinipoint, and any range reduction will be compensated for by adding more. A webbing bubble of any strength makes crashing any gatecamp harder for no real cost to the camper, and if it's something along the lines of a normal web, it'll make it damn near impossible, since a lot of the time you need that coast from your pre-web high speed to make it to the gate alive. There's also almost no point in placing a web bubble anywhere except for overlapping with a warp bubble (though putting it on a mining fleet might be cool).
tl;dr Web Bubble: Useless or Overpowered depending on implementation. |

Jace Errata
Cobalt Valkyrie Industries The Ambivalent
36
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Posted - 2011.11.21 00:14:00 -
[44] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Aside from the obvious trolling, there was a suggestion made for a webbing bubble. Now, I'm not a lowsec or 0.0 pilot, but a web bubble sounds like a fairly good idea, provided the web bubble is a seperate bubble type to a warp bubble, and there is an effect reduction if a warp bubble and a web bubble overlap. There's no real way to reduce the effect of a bubble (since it's an infinipoint, and any range reduction will be compensated for by adding more. A webbing bubble of any strength makes crashing any gatecamp harder for no real cost to the camper, and if it's something along the lines of a normal web, it'll make it damn near impossible, since a lot of the time you need that coast from your pre-web high speed to make it to the gate alive. There's also almost no point in placing a web bubble anywhere except for overlapping with a warp bubble (though putting it on a mining fleet might be cool). tl;dr Web Bubble: Useless or Overpowered depending on implementation. Ah, okay. I don't have much experience with bubbles or camps, so I didn't really think about it in "reality" terms. Thanks for explaining rather than just trolling though! :)
Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k? ... ... OH WAIT. Jace Errata on Twitter |
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