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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.28 16:58:00 -
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Smoked,
Firstly, though you were our enemy, we are sorry to see that the M3G4 war effort ended in this way.
Your fighters, though pirates, were courageous and made a great effort to carry the Taggart cause.
Still in every war there must be a losing side and there is no shame in admitting defeat once matters have reached an inevitable conclusion.
Lurk and Hammah have passed on your chatlog asking for terms to leave.
The NVA council has no problem with this.
You need to make a formal post on Corp Forum or General ... stating that M3G4 formally surrender to the NVA and ask for terms of peaceful transit from the region.
We will grant this, on the condition you pass M3G4 regional offices to NVA corps at pre-arranged times in days to come.
Once the declaration is made and accepted, and the offices are transfered, we will remove M3G4 from the KOS list and allow your exodus ships free passage from Venal and the matter will be concluded.
Love and peace
Jade Constantine for the NVA Council
Jericho Fraction
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Anias Kharn
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Anias Kharn on 28/09/2003 17:23:15
Now TTi is one ally down, will that change things in your war against them? Will you become more aggressive and step up your campaign, or give them a truce and allow for a more diplomatic resolution? |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:43:00 -
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Smoked,
Firstly, though you were our enemy, we are sorry to see that the M3G4 war effort ended in this way.
Your fighters, though pirates, were courageous and made a great effort to carry the Taggart cause.
Still in every war there must be a losing side and there is no shame in admitting defeat once matters have reached an inevitable conclusion.
Lurk and Hammah have passed on your chatlog asking for terms to leave.
The NVA council has no problem with this.
You need to make a formal post on Corp Forum or General ... stating that M3G4 formally surrender to the NVA and ask for terms of peaceful transit from the region.
We will grant this, on the condition you pass M3G4 regional offices to NVA corps at pre-arranged times in days to come.
Once the declaration is made and accepted, and the offices are transfered, we will remove M3G4 from the KOS list and allow your exodus ships free passage from Venal and the matter will be concluded.
Love and peace
Jade Constantine for the NVA Council
Jericho Fraction
You got what you want, you wanted m3g4 down.. They pose you no thread, therefor there is no need for you to ask smoked to publicly humiliate himself even more.
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Seraph Warbird
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Posted - 2003.09.28 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Seraph Warbird on 28/09/2003 17:44:03
As a member of the FA fighting a mutual foe I commend you on the NVA's victories.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.28 18:07:00 -
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Do not confuse the formal conclusion of a war with humiliation. A public declaration is necessary so that there can be no arguing about the final result months from now when people have forgotten what has happened. To allow the war to lapse without such a statement is to leave a poisoned dart in our arms which can be manipulated by our future enemies.
The conditions are quite mild - the transfer of a couple of unusable offices. If M3G4 wishes to rebuild and reform then they should take the opportunity to remove their assets to a location where they can be made use of.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.28 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 28/09/2003 18:16:50
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You got what you want, you wanted m3g4 down.. They pose you no thread, therefor there is no need for you to ask smoked to publicly humiliate himself even more.
Admitting that a war is lost is not humiliation m'dear. It is pragmatic political good sense. Too many CEO's are too het up on testosterone and poisonous pride to see the way the wind blows at times. The role of a leader is to take hard decisions and take the responsibly for failures and disappointments upon their own back.
So a war is lost? Life goes on. With clone technology we are near immortal ... the great game of statesmanship continues.
Adapt ... move on.
Love and peace
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.09.28 19:51:00 -
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You got what you want, you wanted m3g4 down.. They pose you no thread, therefor there is no need for you to ask smoked to publicly humiliate himself even more.
Sorry, but you are really a carebear. You are ignoring the reality what a war is. And you really know nothing what to do to fininsh a corp war. Both CEO have to meet in one Station. Want a trainingslession? I think we have one slot left for a war 
For me the behavior of NVA is to nice ....
I would write SURRUNDER OR DIE 
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Hanns
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:04:00 -
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allow your exodus ships free passage from Venal and the matter will be concluded.
Love and peace
Jade Constantine for the NVA Council
Jericho Fraction
LOL whats ships
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:41:00 -
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Well first, there is no surrender, yet we are no longer combatants in that region. Over the past months, several expressed interests in becoming an industrial and capitalist organization. It was recently made apparent that a need to reform was indeed needed. Many corps have pledged support and have sent isk. Our withdraw from venal was unplanned and untimely. However in no way was there an actually military defeat. As expressed to the CFS who decided to remain neutral, Plans are underway to build a nation that does not stand on personal vendettas or blood hatereds that have existed since the beginning of eve, This nation will not only be a second chance for those who wish it, but a new beginning for all. We decided to remain out of further conflict in venal because two megalomaniacs, have two differant views and two differant idealogies. Neither Jade nor Rangnar where ever right at anypoint in this perverted conflict. TTI is welcome to remain friends, but we will not fight a war for two peoples vendettas. I hope the NVA understands the same as many have in the NA, this conflict is based upon Jades false promises of equality, as her actions pre war clearly dictate Meglomaniacal intentions. Both sides were wrong for involving people who 1.)knew nothing of the true meaning of this conflict. 2.)were made false promises on both sides.
In the coming days, a constitution will be drafted, in which many non alighned as well as alighned corps anxiously await to read.
In this new nation, the main power will rest with a representative body, power which is being protected by the constitution that will be written. This corp is not for people whom wish revenge. This corp is for ANY corp, good or evil to make a new beginning, as we were forced and have welcomed this new beginning.
Aside from the architechs of this defection in our corp, we wish you only the best. And should you wish to return it will be considered.
To those who have vested interest in M3G4, this is not looked upon as defeat, but the clearing for the contrusction of newer and stronger M3G4, one that hopes not to lead a new nation, but to build a structure for others.
In closing, M3G4 is no longer a pirate corp, and as such and as a director, i will not tolerate these actions from my members. A formal confrence will be held in the very near future, in a spesific chat channel, there will be moderation, and instructions for this confrence will be given 2 days prior to the confrence. ALL are welcome to attend and question following the introduction and summary of the constitution.
It has been stated M3G4 died suddenly at somepoint during the night...However we will rise like a phoinex from the ashes, stronger and better than before.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.09.28 20:51:00 -
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lmfao
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.28 21:08:00 -
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You are still living under the delusions you have harboured. The war is not between Jade and Ragnar, it is between the NVA and an alliance whose stated aim was to clear Venal of all our corporations and offices. We have all been fighting for our very existance, despite what you might say.
I would like to remind you of the seriousness of war - you cannot unilaterally declare yourself non-combatants. Failure to accept the terms we have generously offered will not be taken lightly. You cannot wash away the stain of evil so easily.
You only humiliate yourselves by refusing to acknowledge defeat. You were a corporation of 30+ members, and now you are down to a handful. Although the reasons for this are many, you cannot deny that your failure in Venal is one of them. Do you honestly think you are the winners or even that you have forced a stalemate? Do you really wish to be the laughing stock of the galaxy?
Is it so hard to simply say "we lost" and move on? Do it before things get nasty for you again.
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Kuga
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Posted - 2003.09.28 21:19:00 -
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You need to make a formal post on Corp Forum or General ... stating that M3G4 formally surrender to the NVA and ask for terms of peaceful transit from the region.
Can u do me a favor and shoot yourself? WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
smoked and M3G4 were left without a shuttle!!!!!
so please, odjebi!
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Morlocke
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Posted - 2003.09.28 21:28:00 -
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Jade, this sounds like you should simply add the "Biomass Cartel" to your list of enemies. Their leader is no longer the same, but it's the same pack of rabid losers you beat down the first time.
M3G4, on the other hand, would be prudent to surrender and simply get out of the way.
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Mewoa
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Posted - 2003.09.28 22:09:00 -
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Christopher Xen!
You do not know me but I have been following this silly conflict from the beginning and I must say IMHO your post up there is right on the money! Good fortunes to your new nation and if there is any way Huff Technologies can be of assistance (in our own humble way) contact me via EVE Mail.
As for you Jade well, I have seen your so called alliance from within and I'm concerned for you. Now would be a good time for you to take a good look at who is with you for I believe you will see the former ugly face of M3G4 amongst your own followers. This is not a slant but an obsevation.
God speed to you both.
Mewoa
Chief of Security &
Public Relations
Huff Technologies Inc.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.28 22:24:00 -
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Any man who says Christopher Xen has the right of anything needs to see a qualified mental health practitioner ... run don't walk to the nearest clinic.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:03:00 -
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Number One from M3G4 approached me 2 days before the fall of his corp and offered Rona to join them and expell the NVA.
He tried, got to give him that :)
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:30:00 -
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Huff, I know who you are, and perhaps during this time as m3g4 makes its ammends...perhaps it is our time to make our personal ones aswell. Once we were the best of friends in another place at another time, we built one of the strongest operations then, and now...it is time to resurrect that. convo me in what ever name you wish
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Jimmy D
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Posted - 2003.09.29 05:35:00 -
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OK you finally did it. I have been reading this dribble for a long time and nothing until this has deserved a responce.
Poor Smoked LOL when you get done hugging the trees take a peek at his history. Rude and short with Jade infact rude and short to everyone. If you dont know this then you dont know him. He was our leader well he was the CEO at least. He alone rang the war bells. Yes we fought and the battles where outstanding. My hats off to the NVA. The fact of the matter is this Smoked and Smoked alone sent us into battle. Im not saying he lead us into battle, but did in fact give the order. Now that we wish to follow real leaders and chose to leave the dead weight behind do I hear poor Smoked. Im a soldier for that Im not sorry. He should without a doubt be held responciable for M3G4's actions. I was embarrazed by his actions on and off the battlefield. Eject from a Battle Ship in the heat of the battle and run away? Lead on Smoked and may God help your soldiers.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:40:00 -
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Too many threads on one topic.
Please debate in the thread already in place.
Thank you.
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