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Chip2k3
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chip2k3 on 23/06/2006 20:20:12
Meh. Believe whatever makes you feel "a big man"
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Regat Kozovv
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Robstr
And your missing the point entirely.
Tranq. and China are the SAME GAME, when they making something for us, they just have to get to put into chinese and slap it on the server overthere.
Robstr is correct. It's been mentioned before in dev logs that TQ and Serenity have been designed to be as close together as possible. When they develop, they develop for both, because new patches and content will work for both. (Minus the minor changes kieron confirmed.) It's not a matter of favoritism.
I believe Dark Shikari and others alluded to this, that as far as not getting content is concerned, the exact opposite will happen. We will be getting more content, as CCP is able to hire more developers and artists as a result of their new revenue stream. For one, I'm excited.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:17:00 -
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zomg WE ALL GONA DIE !!!!!!!1111 ONE ELEVEN !!!11
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Regat Kozovv
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3
Meh. Believe whatever makes you feel good about yourself.
There's always still time to quit...
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Chip2k3
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:18:00 -
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Didnt say i wanted to quit  i intend to stick out the ride and see what comes
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Marianni
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:21:00 -
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Or think of it this way.
Tranquility will become the guniea pigs of the new developement. Find the bugs, find the issues and find the work arounds.
Serenity will get the new developments once everything is balanced and stable.
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3
Ways they can "abandon" (not the word i would use) us: serenity gets hardware upgrades first. Serenity gets new content first. Serenity gets big patches first.
Again - so what?
Please follow this line of reasoning:
2 * servers = 2* the playerbase = 2* the income = 2* money available for development = new content faster.
Soooo, even IF cina would get new content faster - we would still get the content faster than we would have if china would not exist. Because there wouldn't be as many recource available to develope more content.
Doesn't matter if china would get new content first or not - in both cases it will be faster for us than without china.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:25:00 -
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tq will get a quicker development cycle tho i think more devs more events more art more chronicles more card games hehe its a good thing
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Chip2k3
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Again - so what?
Please follow this line of reasoning:
2 * servers = 2* the playerbase = 2* the income = 2* money available for development = new content faster.
Soooo, even IF cina would get new content faster - we would still get the content faster than we would have if china would not exist. Because there wouldn't be as many recource available to develope more content.
Doesn't matter if china would get new content first or not - in both cases it will be faster for us than without china.
OK...i can see your point
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jeagred
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:30:00 -
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i think some ppl in eve are so use the 1 server for all way forgot that most other mmo alway use multiple server
so when they patch or add content they do it on all theyre server at the same time ,would not be efficient to do it on 1 server per day as it would take over 1 month on some mmo as they have over 30 server
sometime they even have other server made in other language ,those sometime get stuff about 1 week later cause they have to get ppl to do the traduction but that about the worst i saw
so having a server in china wont change much thing for us,hell we probably wont even see if we get patch first or second or at same time as we dont have access to that server ,they dont have acess to our and we dont even share the forum as far as i can see so you should not even see if it hurt/profit us so just enjoy the game 
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Marianni
Or think of it this way.
Tranquility will become the guniea pigs of the new developement. Find the bugs, find the issues and find the work arounds.
Serenity will get the new developments once everything is balanced and stable.
Originally by: wystler
Scenario 1. CCP deploy patch to EVE-China first. Threads appear on here complaining that CCP is playing favourites to the other server.
Scenario 2. CCP deploy patch to us first. Threads appear on here complaining that we're the trial run for the EVE-China patch.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2006.06.23 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Marianni
Or think of it this way.
Tranquility will become the guniea pigs of the new developement. Find the bugs, find the issues and find the work arounds.
Serenity will get the new developments once everything is balanced and stable.
We will get many good things out of the bigger china server(s) as well. We will see benefits from load balancing and other database optimizations that they will need before we do.
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Johnny Twoshoe
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Posted - 2006.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Don't forget that more players means more minds thinking about EVE and thus more ideas for CCP to take into consideration from the Ideas & Suggestions board.
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.06.23 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Chip2k3
No-one seems to understand where I'm coming from. Maybe I'm not explaining properly. Is there going to come a point in time where CCP give in to the money? When they forsake us for China as that (theoretically) would make them more?
No.
Even if TQ only made 1/10th of China they wouldn't throw that income away.
This is not the disaster you are looking for. Move along.
I think one possible consequence may be the direction EVE development may take. The game mechanics and content changes may be lopsidedly influenced by an overwhelming majority of Chinese players whose ideas may be at odds with those playing on Tranq.
Just a thought.
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2006.06.23 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Krxon Blade on 23/06/2006 21:43:25
CPP will ad more and more steroids to poor hamsters,
to compensate for huge amount of new players,
untill their uber computer network reaches critical mass
and develop its own AI.
Than we are toasted :)
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Virvana Sharpur
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Posted - 2006.06.23 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Virvana Sharpur on 23/06/2006 21:51:08
We hope that more China = more developers = a better EVE than it would be without China.
Frankly though, I suspect what we'll find is more China = same developers = typical EVE as its always been, regardless of China.
If CCP needs to do it as a business decision, then that's fine. But I really don't think its going to improve matters for us any more than it has always been.
If anything, I suspect CCP needed to go to China just to maintain the level of service and development it always had.
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"Give me one frigate pilot with faith, over an armada of a thousand battleships."
--Virvana mons Sharpur,
The Fleet Prayer |
Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.06.23 22:50:00 -
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they aren't starting where we are, just with new characters, but that they will start with just new characters AND only T1 ships and such... then have T2 introduced at a certain pace, similar to how it was initially on Tranq, but on a little smoother curve (since its already all developed)
that'd likely give a pretty good time frame before they catch up to us for new content. ... that is new content will be "needed" for us long before their advancement gets to the equivalent point.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Marshall Knight
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Posted - 2006.06.23 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Marshall Knight on 23/06/2006 23:25:38
I can see his point on the content going to china first and all that but there is another thing ya got to think about here.
China is under a different law system to us and censorship so the problem ya looking for wont exist as when things are developed they would theoriatically be made with full content at first and then changed to fit into the censorship of the chinese servers so chances are they will be released at same time once both verison have been done. Only problem in the future might be they may go with whats right for china and we get the censored patches as well but i very much doubt that would happen and who cares who gets what first we have our world they have theres just get on with it.
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splattercat
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Posted - 2006.06.24 00:03:00 -
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Hummm.... forgive me if im off the mark here, but as the game has been made in english by devs ect who know english, is it not highly unlikely thay will all learn Chinese and start makeing content for them 1st?
(as far as i know it English 1st)
Is it not more likely that thay hire staff to translate and edit there work for the Chinese servers? (the Chinese staff)
Also why are ppl worred thay will get stuff last? you will still get it in CCPs own time as has allways happened,
and why o why will ccp cut off TQ and the cash it brings in,Eve will probaly not be there only game in the comeing years so why make customers angry and not want to try there other stuff.
It matters not tbh, if there is one server or even 100, The ppl who play TQ will stay on TQ, i realy fail to see what the big problem with a 2nd server is.
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Sathana
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Posted - 2006.06.24 00:18:00 -
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Another factor that people aren't realizing is that everyone that plays on Eve China are on the same time zone. Which makes it very simple the reason why more people are on the server at one time. The real factor that would make any sense to go by is the amount of subscribers to each server.
Then again none of it matters since it's the same game...
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Salusa VC
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Posted - 2006.06.24 00:39:00 -
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Out of interest, what is the monthly sub for China?
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Hillesumos
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Posted - 2006.06.24 00:55:00 -
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Let take it on a more global scale and out the actual game issue. EVE is a product made by one company based in Iceland. Except for a few exceptions , most of their worforce are based in Iceland with very few of them speaking decent chinese. Now, if you do consider moving a company to china because of the huge success, it mean relocating all the staff to china, put them in fast track chinese language course, alienate all the families of thoses poor souls and a lot of money and effort + as a bonus a substantial disruption to the way the company work. So realisticall, will china server take over ccp soul is very unlikely. CCP do like any european or american company that develop in china. They see this as an opportunity to develop and invest money and some people to manage the operation. The WORST that can happen is that a new ccp offshoot is created in china. Ie a similar bunch of chinese people creating content and debugging the servers + the group programmer and game support people. Now, ccp says that setting aside a few cultural differences, they will basically run the same code on both server. It doesn't practically change how things are done it just increase the scale of how it is done that all. See all the other games companies, they don't moves from their original place they just create off shoot.
Side note: china may be a wonderful market but it is also a developing one. Think of it as 0.0 of the game market. Few rules and unpredictable state that can eddict weird rules without recourse to the rule of law. I have yet to heard of companies that move all their operation to china. It is not worth it and also it is very risky bet.
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Sadly I just make ISK, I don't print it. :(
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