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Acquaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:29:00 -
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Issue to be discussed:
I was wondering if CCP could implement a system such as from down time to down time, every player gets a ship/pod killed vs log time ratio. Hence, the player with daily highest value gets a prize, like 500k, not too much, just a small reward. The ranking could be publicly viewed with daily top 10 and monthly top 100.
Obviously this does NOT determine how good a PvPer skill is, however it does promote PvP in EvE.
Hope, this could help EvE Dev team.
Sincerely
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Leno on 24/06/2006 03:37:03 just a warning people are going to flame you hard dont get mad about it, just trust me they mean well
edit: oh yeah and no
usual arguments, this isnt CS in space, it promotes ganking and stat *****s even if they are already here and even if i am one of them, blah blah blah...
point is while knowing what most the rest of eve is up to and stuff it just doesnt show how good any one side is and just promotes the wrong mentality --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Jacxx
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz
however it does promote PvP in EvE.
Is further promotion really neccessary?
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Yurii Chan
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:37:00 -
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YAY im in a thread with Leno!!!
i think you're gonna need lotsa fame retardant Acquaz... you're basically asking to add more counter strike to this game... as if the Killboards werent enough
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yurii Chan YAY im in a thread with Leno!!!
i think you're gonna need lotsa fame retardant Acquaz... you're basically asking to add more counter strike to this game... as if the Killboards werent enough
/me feels loved --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Nicole KholdStare
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:40:00 -
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All I see this doing is getting more people to snipe in bs near low-sec and 0.0 entry points killing everything and their dog in sight. Not to mention people exploiting the system via alts. It will just end up being bogus like the the bounty system...better spend those manhours on something else imho.
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Leno just a warning people are going to flame you hard dont get mad about it, just trust me they mean well
How so? I, as a regular eve player just giving my opinion in general discussion section. In game i have no political power nor military power, i do NOT have any influence in game but what i proposed is something i thought could be implemented to the game. IF you think it is a bad idea then please give reasons, everything is on the table to be discussed.
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz
Originally by: Leno just a warning people are going to flame you hard dont get mad about it, just trust me they mean well
How so? I, as a regular eve player just giving my opinion in general discussion section. In game i have no political power nor military power, i do NOT have any influence in game but what i proposed is something i thought could be implemented to the game. IF you think it is a bad idea then please give reasons, everything is on the table to be discussed.
read my edit.
In a nutshell it has been brought up and shot down many many times over the past 3 years. It is something a large number of the people on the forums are very against and tend to get angry about it. I just wanted to tell you that before it happens and your woundering why they are being such jerks. --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:55:00 -
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"Best" is subjective.
If I sit 170km away from a well travelled lowsec gate pumelling everyone without instas I'd get a lot of kills.
That does not make me the best pvp'r.
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Acquaz
Originally by: Leno just a warning people are going to flame you hard dont get mad about it, just trust me they mean well
How so? I, as a regular eve player just giving my opinion in general discussion section. In game i have no political power nor military power, i do NOT have any influence in game but what i proposed is something i thought could be implemented to the game. IF you think it is a bad idea then please give reasons, everything is on the table to be discussed.
read my edit.
In a nutshell it has been brought up and shot down many many times over the past 3 years. It is something a large number of the people on the forums are very against and tend to get angry about it. I just wanted to tell you that before it happens and your woundering why they are being such jerks.
Thanks, when i wrote it i am basically ready to get flamed. But then i thought why shouldn't i express myself in far of getting flamed, as my proposed idea is just another way for eve players to express themselves. If the idea is not liked by many, then CCP will be well aware of it.
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.06.24 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris "Best" is subjective.
If I sit 170km away from a well travelled lowsec gate pumelling everyone without instas I'd get a lot of kills.
That does not make me the best pvp'r.
Well we <3 youo anyway deja --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nicole KholdStare All I see this doing is getting more people to snipe in bs near low-sec and 0.0 entry points killing everything and their dog in sight.
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris "Best" is subjective.
If I sit 170km away from a well travelled lowsec gate pumelling everyone without instas I'd get a lot of kills.
That does not make me the best pvp'r.
I think i meant "efficient" b/c the ranking is a ratio between kill number and log in time. Like i said it does not represent one's pvp skill but rather one's efficiency and active hunting. For people worrying player with snipers camping the gates, i do not think they will get a high ranking based on time logged. But i do see that people involved in Fleet combats will surely get a higher ranking chance than others. If anyone could provide a better idea, we are all ears.
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Nicole KholdStare
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:10:00 -
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Yeah I have a better idea...fix the bugs and leave the official "I got no life"-ranking systems to other games (WoW PVP Ranking springs to mind). It will just increase server load while adding no real benefit to anyone except people who draw their raison d'etre of being number one in some database in a virtual world... And even if it were implemented it would get exploited and why would anyone want to see a board of the biggest hosers in eve...mmmm...actually that might be interesting if you couldn't hide in npc corps 
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Acquaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nicole KholdStare actually that might be interesting if you couldn't hide in npc corps 
There are many reasons being in a NPC Corp. Lack of a decent computer, RL commitment, etc.
Like i said, if you do not like the idea, state it, and leave other stuffs out of the forum.
Just because our opinion regarding an issue is different, does not give you the right to look down others.
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Ozmodan
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:31:00 -
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There is a nice bounty system in place, beyond that, do not see the necessity of another measuring system. Rewards would be a very bad idea, they already get rewards from loot and ransom money.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:32:00 -
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I can remeber that one dev wrote that they think about some sort of ranking like it's used for chess. But anyway IHMO that would be plain epeen promoting. You can't tell from some simple numbers if it was a good fight or not. You cant tell if somebody was lucky or did a stupid misstake.
Anyway, fun > numbers.
-- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Nicole KholdStare
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Posted - 2006.06.24 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Nicole KholdStare on 24/06/2006 04:38:35
Quote: Just because our opinion regarding an issue is different, does not give you the right to look down others.
I am allowed to express my opinion and if that opinion happens to be that I think your idea is not needed then how is that 'looking down'? So you're saying I can only reply if I think it's a brilliant idea? Interesting notion but flawed. I shot down your idea and didn't personally attack you....if I had said **** off you're a waste of oxygen then yeah you'd have a point.
Edit: And explain how being in an npc-corp and having a bad computer is related please. I realise there are many valid reasons for being in one but in my example they would be used to hide from the retaliation of other players which is not a valid one imho.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.06.24 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris "Best" is subjective.
If I sit 170km away from a well travelled lowsec gate pumelling everyone without instas I'd get a lot of kills.
That does not make me the best pvp'r.
So GM is your alt, eh?
Originally by: Panzer Goddess I podded wrangler, and all I got was this lousy forumban.
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.06.24 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz Issue to be discussed:
I was wondering if CCP could implement a system such as from down time to down time, every player gets a ship/pod killed vs log time ratio. Hence, the player with daily highest value gets a prize, like 500k, not too much, just a small reward. The ranking could be publicly viewed with daily top 10 and monthly top 100.
Obviously this does NOT determine how good a PvPer skill is, however it does promote PvP in EvE.
Hope, this could help EvE Dev team.
Sincerely
Not necessary. In my opinion its sufficient that the top PvP'ers are feared through notoriety and infamy alone.
If you cant achieve that, then you arent striking enough fear into your enemies/victims and should work harder. 
--------------------- Sig to come soonish.
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Only Evil
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Posted - 2006.06.24 11:36:00 -
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many many many noobs will run around crying ! ! !
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.24 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz Edited by: Acquaz on 24/06/2006 11:33:14 Issue to be discussed:
I was wondering if CCP could implement a system such as from down time to down time, every player gets a ship/pod killed vs log time ratio. Hence, the player with daily highest value gets a prize, like 500k, not too much, just a small reward. The ranking could be publicly viewed with daily top 10 and monthly top 100.
Obviously this does NOT determine how good a PvPer skill is, however it does promote PvP in EvE.
Hope, this could help EvE Dev team.
Sincerely
Sounds a little too much like WoW Battlegrounds. I still get depressed when i think of the thing they call PvP in that game.
By the way, there are already killboards with the highest ranked killers out there.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.24 12:07:00 -
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Podding one's own alt repeatedly does not a PvP legend make.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Deja Thoris "Best" is subjective.
If I sit 170km away from a well travelled lowsec gate pumelling everyone without instas I'd get a lot of kills.
That does not make me the best pvp'r.
So GM is your alt, eh?
No doofus, he's my main
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:14:00 -
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the problem with this is that statistics dont rlly provide all the informations needed to see if osme1s good or not.
like ppl who mostly participate in fleets get lots of kills but less losses etc, or ppl who fly capital ships, and might do that good ro whatnot. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:21:00 -
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How do you make a ranking system in a game where group efforts are worth more than individual efforts? New sig coming soonÖ Tuxford's good for EVE. |

Nev Clavain
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Acquaz Edited by: Acquaz on 24/06/2006 11:33:14 Issue to be discussed:
I was wondering if CCP could implement a system such as from down time to down time, every player gets a ship/pod killed vs log time ratio. Hence, the player with daily highest value gets a prize, like 500k, not too much, just a small reward. The ranking could be publicly viewed with daily top 10 and monthly top 100.
Obviously this does NOT determine how good a PvPer skill is, however it does promote PvP in EvE.
Hope, this could help EvE Dev team.
Sincerely
In EVE the primary function of killing another person's ship is to inflict economic and time losses upon them.
Statistics and rankings add another objective to the game - a spurious objective. The objective is to scale the rankings, rather than to achieve something in game. Are there not enough things to aspire to in EVE, without needing a ranking system which will inevitably benefit certain styles of play over others?
Individual rankings are the antithesis of good teamwork. This is true in CS as much as it would be in EVE.
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