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Lana Banely
Orion Constellation Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.07.02 07:28:00 -
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Capital Industrial Ships bonuses (per skill level):
5% reduction in fuel consumption for Industrial Core <--Used
10% bonus to Mining Foreman Links effectiveness when using Industrial Core <---Used
50% bonus to Capital Remote Shield Booster range <--Unused
20% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage <-- Unused
Role Bonus:
900% bonus to Survey Scanner range <-- Unused and stupid
200% bonus to Cargo Scanners range<-- Unused and even more stupid unless you are planing to gank in Jita with Rorqual
GÇó Can fit Industrial Core
GÇó Can fit Clone Vat Bay
GÇó Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously <--- This 3 are used
If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use. It is shame that you see super caps on grid in fights and you cant see Rorqual even in belt.
Few ideas:
Let T3 ships can be stored in maintenance bay so mining fleet can defend themself in case of hotdrops
Mining boost more efective on grid than from POS
Rorqual to be builded in hisec but stuck there or jump into losec/0.0, so once you build it, you can use it there or cyno in losec and move as todays Rorq.
New mining + siege bonuses with mining foreman mindlink ORE edition, to boost mining and siege
To be alowed in hisec but not to dock, so you must keep it at POS or have babysitting alt
These are only some ideas, please guys post them more, angry kids (no you are not pvper if you attack miners) please add sugestions or STFU, dont spit on post, ty. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1860
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Posted - 2014.07.02 07:53:00 -
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Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't survey scanning be useful for not depleting valuable ore roids.. for directing linked and fleeted miners?
I agree, the cargo scanner makes little sense, but maybe it helps the foreman gauge how topped up his fleet is.
Not sure I like the idea of a ship that can help deplete highsec ores faster than they already are with exhumers with boosts.
Lana Banely wrote:no you are not pvper if you attack miners
Why was this necessary as part of your post? I disagree with this statement.
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Hypercake Mix
144
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Posted - 2014.07.02 07:56:00 -
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General Discussion is definitely not the right place for mining-related ideas. Try here next time.
Rorqual is way too strong for hi-sec. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
875
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Posted - 2014.07.02 08:48:00 -
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It's simple.
We kill the indy core... |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
2047
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Posted - 2014.07.02 09:43:00 -
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Lana Banely wrote:no you are not pvper if you attack miners
Am I a pvper if I will mine rocks from under your lazors? Am I a pvper if my orca accidentally bumps you out of your lazors range? Am I a pvper if my hulk will serve as warp in point for gank squad and my hauler will scoop whatever dropped from you?
Because as far as competition and economic war is concerned I am going against you crippling your mining capabilities thus limiting your participation in ore market and if that is not Player vs Player I don't know what is.
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
479
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Posted - 2014.07.02 09:47:00 -
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Lana Banely wrote: angry kids (no you are not pvper if you attack miners) please add sugestions or STFU, dont spit on post, ty.
Good to see you are open for debate and not being aggressive and confrontational straight out the gate. |
Solecist Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
2517
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Posted - 2014.07.02 09:48:00 -
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Oh look, I spotted a wild IdontknowwhatPvP means!
Let's go hunt and kill it!
My current portrait: http://imgur.com/a/q6zRU#10
Sol.freeform: http://imgur.com/a/eFlYD
Hey CCP fix your server please! :p
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
126
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Posted - 2014.07.02 09:53:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't survey scanning be useful for not depleting valuable ore roids.. for directing linked and fleeted miners? I agree, the cargo scanner makes little sense, but maybe it helps the foreman gauge how topped up his fleet is. Not sure I like the idea of a ship that can help deplete highsec ores faster than they already are with exhumers with boosts. Lana Banely wrote:no you are not pvper if you attack miners Why was this necessary as part of your post? I disagree with this statement.
When was the last time you saw a rorqual actually sitting in a belt, because survey scanners only work when sitting inside the belt and the same for cargo scanners, having that thing sitting in a belt unaligned or even worse, in siege, is asking for someone to come and rip it apart :P |
Cavalira
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
373
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:35:00 -
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If your mining op is hotdropped, I seriously doubt a few t3s in your ship maintenance bay is going to do any difference.
...And the rorqual shouldn't be used in highsec. Go to lowsec or nullsec if you want to play with the cool things. |
Lugia3
Intentionally Dense
Easily Excited
992
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:38:00 -
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Rorqual needs to keep the Industry core, and have an incentive to bring it on-grid with the asteroid belt.
Also, this thread is about to go places.
Places where no thread has gone before.
To explore strange new subforums.
To seek out new threads and Tippia posts.
To boldly go, where no thread has gone before.
"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4115
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:44:00 -
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In Eve, unlike real life, non-consensual PVP is still PVP. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2397
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Posted - 2014.07.02 10:48:00 -
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1. Ideas (terrible as yours are) belong in Features and Ideas (edit - damn missed that the link got posted already  )
2. Rorquals, as with all capitals, are not allowed in hisec for good reasons.
3. Just because you don't personally use some/all of the ship capabilities doesn't mean that others don't.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1871
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:58:00 -
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Cypherous wrote:When was the last time you saw a rorqual actually sitting in a belt, because survey scanners only work when sitting inside the belt and the same for cargo scanners, having that thing sitting in a belt unaligned or even worse, in siege, is asking for someone to come and rip it apart :P
I've not yet been boosted by a Rorq, and I've always assumed it's the next step up from an Orca.. but after doing some reading about the ship, it does seem like a big risk taking the ship out with the rest of the mining fleet.
That said, would OP's suggestion of having T3 ship storage and more effective links on grid be enough to bring a Rorq on grid? I would think not..
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp
V.A.S.T.
455
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:18:00 -
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I would argue that the Primae is more useless than the Rorqual, tbh. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
777
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:19:00 -
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Lana Banely wrote:(no you are not pvper if you attack miners) please add sugestions or STFU, dont spit on post, ty.
Suggestion. Don't insult players if you want your post to be taken seriously. You'd me hard pressed to find a combat pvper in eve that hasn't shot at a miner at somepoint.
*spits on post*
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14983
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:23:00 -
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This seems like a Feature and/or an Idea.
Sigh.. one day.. one day we will have a place for threads like this. But it is not this day.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4131
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:26:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Since this was a useless thread anyways, I just gave out your 777th like. :D
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Malcolm Lionel
The Ascended Fleet
Intrepid Crossing
23
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:04:00 -
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I use it daily. Just needs some love from ccp |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5368
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:18:00 -
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The best thing about a properly skilled Rorq pilot that can fit for on grid is that you are only a week or two from having a really nice carrier pilot. And most will eventually jump into a carrier because sitting around boosting miners is just about the most boring thing you can imagine.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7028
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:20:00 -
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Lana Banely wrote:
If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use.
Someone has never heard of this ship. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22772
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:21:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:To seek out new threads and Tippia posts. Funnily enough, I'm thinking about getting a Rorq. I've trained for it, after all, and my lazy cropmates can't be arsed to grind the standings for jump clones.
StillGǪ :effort:
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
689
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:44:00 -
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Prolly gonna be moved but posting anyway.
The rorq would be good for a few new things, but one of which would require a massive change.
I think the rorq should either 1) be a mobile reactor unit. So instead of compressing ore, it will react gas, small batches, but that would give it a reason to sit somewhere and maybe be ganked.
2) It should become the capitol mining ship lots of people want. It will mine way slower then the barges, but can pull in a big chuck of stuff.
or 3) and this would need a massive change, as ring mining doesntl seem to be coming, remove moon harvesting arrays from pos' and make it so the rorq has to manually mine the moon goo.
Just some ideas
10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
777
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:52:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Since this was a useless thread anyways, I just gave out your 777th like. :D
Thanks! I was so upset that I missed the 666th.
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Ptraci
The Irukandji
Ineluctable.
1807
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:27:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
I've not yet been boosted by a Rorq, and I've always assumed it's the next step up from an Orca.. but after doing some reading about the ship, it does seem like a big risk taking the ship out with the rest of the mining fleet.
True and true. The boosts from a Rorqual are sweet indeed if the pilot has maxxed out his skills. However since you don't need to be on grid to share those boosts but just undocked in the system somewhere with the modules and the indy core running, what everyone does is park it at a POS and go afk. That's why you'll never ever see one at a belt (unless the pilot is incredibly stupid). I've taken mine to belts before but never with someone I didn't trust (even blues) in local. I did that to use the tractor beam to tractor in mining cans from 150+km away but now since freighters can go to belts and pick up cans there's not much point. Pretty much anyone with a noctis and a freighter can do that job more efficiently.
Boosts and ore compression are the only thing the rorqual is good for (besides being a poor man's jump freighter). Ore compression will soon be done by tower modules. If towers can give mining boosts too then that ship really will be obsolete. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6209
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Posted - 2014.07.03 00:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Lugia3 wrote:To seek out new threads and Tippia posts. Funnily enough, I'm thinking about getting a Rorq. I've trained for it, after all, and my lazy cropmates can't be arsed to grind the standings for jump clones. StillGǪ :effort:
Can't they use the jump clone service people that let you use their corp standings... for free
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22777
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Posted - 2014.07.03 00:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Can't they use the jump clone service people that let you use their corp standings... for free
Probably. That requires futzing around with joining other corps, though. I'm guessing the :effort: goes both ways. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
10567
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Posted - 2014.07.03 00:56:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Lana Banely wrote:
If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use.
Someone has never heard of this ship.
"Do you know what you are, capsuleer?"
"Not dumb enough to fly this ship?"
No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1650
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Posted - 2014.07.03 01:41:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion.
I have also removed some replies to an edited out part of the OP's post.
ISD Ezwal
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6210
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Posted - 2014.07.03 07:57:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Lana Banely wrote:
If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use.
Someone has never heard of this ship. "Do you know what you are, capsuleer?" "Not dumb enough to fly this ship?"
I use my rorq a lot to mine.
If you want, you can mine like mad out in nullsec, our renters frequently do it thanks to the mining upgrades on their ihub.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Lana Banely
Orion Constellation Inc.
4
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:13:00 -
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OK
There we have so called BITCHING on post
Any suggestions from now please?
Ty |
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