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Julian Darklight
Demonic Mass-Murderers
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Posted - 2011.11.19 20:03:00 -
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I have found that this fitting for the ferox is an extremely effective PVE fit if you ahve the right skills. I know prefer it over my drake for lvl 3 missions.
Rail Ferox: High: 6x Dual 150mm railgun II Mid: 2x Large Shield Extender II 1x Stasis Wed II 1x Invul Field II 1x 10 Mn Afterburner II Low: 3x Mag field stab II 1x Damage Control II Rigs: 2x Med Core Defence field Extender 1x Anti EM screen Drone bay: 5x Hob Gob II |
Julian Darklight
Demonic Mass-Murderers
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Posted - 2011.11.19 20:08:00 -
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Considering testing it in a group PVP situation to deal with cruisers, frigs and drones. |
MichaelWest
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.11.19 20:28:00 -
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Julian Darklight wrote:Considering testing it in a group PVP situation to deal with cruisers, frigs and drones.
Take it to sisi and give it a shot. Would be interesting. |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.19 20:43:00 -
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With the low Dmg of Rails and the Low Range + the terrible scaling of Damage on medium rails you are plain out better off in a Heavy Missile Drake. Your going to max out at less then 300 "Gun" DPS with Antimatter with a range of 14km at the most Damage.
With Heavy Missiles you can go out to 70km for much more Missile Dmg and Fury Missiles eat Battleships. You will have a stronger tank and between painters and precision missiles you will be more accurate,
Drake is definitely worth the 8mil extra on the Price Tag. |
Julian Darklight
Demonic Mass-Murderers
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Posted - 2011.11.19 20:46:00 -
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Not for a char that has 7 mill sp in gunnery alone and only 500k in missles. Secondly, i get about 300 DPS with t2 charges. an the damage is instant...
However, i see you point. But this is for chars who are already good with guns and dont want to train missles simply to fly one ship.
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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.20 10:15:00 -
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Or just hop into a hurricane or harby and do much better in both pve and pvp. |
Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.20 10:33:00 -
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Cedo Nulli wrote:Or just hop into a hurricane or harby and do much better in both pve and pvp.
Honestly, did you have to go and stomp on the kid's dreams? |
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.20 11:03:00 -
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[Ferox, PVE] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
200mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M Drone Link Augmentor I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x5
For PVP you will mostly see lasers and autocannons on a Ferox.
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Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.20 14:05:00 -
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Quote:Not for a char that has 7 mill sp in gunnery alone and only 500k in missles. Secondly, i get about 300 DPS with t2 charges. an the damage is instant...
Cross train. Seriously, if you don't want missiles, you will find Caldari extremely dissapointing. The Ferox is utterly terrible at PVE compared to the Drake.
(And in fact compared to every other BC out there)
Oh and as an added note - even with relatively low missile SP the Drake still outperforms the Ferox to a ridiculous degree. |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2011.11.20 14:28:00 -
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The Ferox and the Prophecy are the worst tier 1 BCs. All the tier 1 BCs really lack utility when compared to their tier 2 counterparts. The only roles these ships can serve is some sort of bait to draw a gang in and survive long enough for your gang to arrive.
The problem here is the tier system. When there were learning skills in the game, when you started with very little sp and the rate of gaining sp was much longer tiers may have made sense. You buy the lesser and wait to train into the better tier.
However, now sp comes very quickly at the beginning. There is no reason to buy a lesser tier/lesser ship because very quickly you have the sp for the better tier/better ship. So the time has come for CCP to drop the tiers.
We are going through another expansion now where CCP felt the need to introduce "new" ships (candy). But think of just how much candy they could introduce if they got rid of the tiers in frigates, cruisers, and BCs and redesigned them around roles. The stats and slots could be evened out while providing thses ships roles that would get them flown. Similar to Tech II ships, which have roles and not tiers, lower skilled or players not wanting to spend for tech II or tech III for whatever reason would use let's say a Celestis or an Augorer because they wouldn't necesarilly be the relative **** they are now.
Maybe the Ferox will benefit and find some utility with the projectile buff, but its only true salvation would come with the removal of the tier concept. |
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Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.20 14:36:00 -
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Quote:Maybe the Ferox will benefit and find some utility with the projectile buff
Post-buff a 200mm rail Ferox fits easily and does about 400 DPS (inc. drones) at 20km. Still nowhere near as good as a Drake for PVE though. |
Julian Darklight
Demonic Mass-Murderers
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Posted - 2011.11.20 21:06:00 -
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Actually, i have flown the ferox for a few years. I am far from dissapointed. what i find are lots of folks who have never flown it or have little exp with it bashing it for no more reason than it is popular to do so.
A blaster Ferox and a 220mm AC ferox are greart ships. They do good damge with great range with with bonuses to blasters. Yes, they are NOT the best ships out there but they do well for their cost and flexability.
I know lots of you dont like this fit. But it was a fun fit that i threw together and it works well for me. Better than spendin time trainin missles when i can just hop into a min vessal an get all the benefits of my gun trained char.
I do, however, appreciate the feedback. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.21 00:10:00 -
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Yeah, it really is, sorry. If you actually think that fit "works well" then that speaks more about your lack of experience than the plusses of the ship.
Quote:I think it would function well as an anti frigate and anti drone platform A role dozens of other ships would do much better. |
Salvia Olima
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.11.21 09:20:00 -
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Ferox and Prophecy are nice - you can invent useful ships from their BPCs.
A fun gang of blasterroxes with web+scram are awesome and unexpectable too. |
Julian Darklight
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.22 20:26:00 -
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The the above poster, could you link a good blaster fox fit?i changed comps an lost allmy fittings... ani had been out almost a year so i cant remember them all. |
Dr Cedric
Orbital Industry and Research.
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Posted - 2011.11.22 21:57:00 -
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@ above:
6x Neutron Blasters (or Ion's...can't remember which fit)
Invuln II, 10MN MWD, Warp Scrambler 2x Extenders (or 2nd invuln and 1 extender)
3x Mag Stabs and DC/Nano/ i-stab
Rigs: Em Rig, 2 extender rigs
IIRC its 500+ dps, but needs to be in a gang since its short on tackle gear. You could set it up for better tank or more damage projection if you know you have a dedicated tackle,
Or you can dedicate to tackle if you have logistics.
Personally, I love the Ferox, its always been my fav. ship even though it underperforms when compared to some others. Sometimes I have to turn EFT off and spend 30M and fly around in it and say "yup, this is why I like this ship."
Take it or leave it, but have fun with whichever you do.
To the nay-sayers: Get over it. If you have fun winning or losing in a ship, thats all that matters! |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.22 23:18:00 -
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[quote=Julian Darklight]Actually, i have flown the ferox for a few years. I am far from dissapointed. what i find are lots of folks who have never flown it or have little exp with it bashing it for no more reason than it is popular to do so. quote]
You mean like playing a few YEAR's to do lvl III's ? Train for Rokh........... and do IV's |
Julian Darklight
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.23 15:49:00 -
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To the rather rude FLurk, I do lvl 4s. Maybe if you actually read what i say, you will see it says,"i prefer this shipfor lvl3s" NOT :all i do is lvl3s"
Scondly i thought i made it clear that i prefer frig hulls and smaller ships to the huge, slow BSes. The BC is about as high as i really wanna go. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.23 19:08:00 -
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Quote:Scondly i thought i made it clear that i prefer frig hulls and smaller ships to the huge, slow BSes. The BC is about as high as i really wanna go. I never will understand why some people are happy to horribly gimp themselves. |
Dr Cedric
Orbital Industry and Research.
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Posted - 2011.11.23 19:29:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Quote:Scondly i thought i made it clear that i prefer frig hulls and smaller ships to the huge, slow BSes. The BC is about as high as i really wanna go. I never will understand why some people are happy to horribly gimp themselves.
I wouldn't call it "Horribly Gimping," I would call it "flying what makes him enjoy the game a little more. I'll never understand why some people are happy to always think their way is the best and anyone who doesn't go that way must be a moron...
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Staffikama
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.24 10:35:00 -
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missioning with ferox is much like mowing your lawn with scissors |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:53:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Quote:Scondly i thought i made it clear that i prefer frig hulls and smaller ships to the huge, slow BSes. The BC is about as high as i really wanna go. I never will understand why some people are happy to horribly gimp themselves.
I will never understand the 'elitist' attitude some people have.
Going with your view everyone would be in a titan because that's uber, amiright?
People fly what they enjoy flying and I say more power to them. Enjoy the game your own way. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:09:00 -
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Quote:People fly what they enjoy flying and I say more power to them. Enjoy the game your own way.
To rephrase: I never will understand how some people just enjoy failing at Eve. |
Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.25 00:37:00 -
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The Ferox is great bait because of the ~Ferox Effect~ Its just as tanky as a drake but people will actually engage you.
"Hey look at that bait drake sitting on the gate!"
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"oh **** look a ferox is on the gate lets kill this jack ass"
I wish it didn't suck, I really do.
If flying a ****** ship makes you happy then do it man. I love to fly Kitsune's and Griffins so I feel your pain [ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting! |
Allaera
Avatar Dynasty RED.Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.25 02:35:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Quote:People fly what they enjoy flying and I say more power to them. Enjoy the game your own way. To rephrase: I never will understand how some people just enjoy failing at Eve.
I will never understand people that berate others for "failing at Eve" because they enjoy what they fly. |
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