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Jojo Jackson 5	Posted - 2011.11.20 00:51:00 - [1] - Quote Red boxes vis blue boxes mixed with purple and green boxes ... No changs to not compare it with Atari 2600 block-graphics :(. There ARE realy cool ships with great texturs ... you just never see them except when spinning them in station. But as soon as you fly your very first Mission, you soom out so far, that you can't even see your own ship ... enemys are ALLWAYS just red blinking boxes anyway :(. And if you don't soom out so far, you might get navigation problems pritty fast. I don't know how to solve this problem ... but the coolest part (space game with cool ships) is the worst part at the same time (box vis box fights). PS: ironicly it makes the great and new animated Turrets ... so damn useless as there is no changs to see them fire if you can't see the ship at all CRY
T' Elk Happy Little Spaceships 160	Posted - 2011.11.20 00:53:00 - [2] - Quote Solution: Build a better gaming machine. God wears-áRay Ban Aviators.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 41	Posted - 2011.11.20 00:53:00 - [3] - Quote I can see my own ship fine, but as it would be in real (ish) combat, can't see the enemy other than the sensor blips (red boxes).
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone. 186	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:00:00 - [4] - Quote ITT: problem with blob warfare small gang stuff can still be done up close The Drake is a Lie
Shivus Tao Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 65	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:05:00 - [5] - Quote Xercodo wrote: ITT: problem with blob warfare small gang stuff can still be done up close On the contrary. I find I've zoomed out more in small gangs because it's more of a numbers game of keep at distance, approach, and manual course corrections relative to the enemies on the field. In fleets I can zoom in and enjoy the ships because it's little more than "orbit the anchor" or approach the target en masse and "shoot the primary."
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:12:00 - [6] - Quote Automatic Cinematic Camera Controls Follow Object (Drone, Missile, Primary, etc.) Dolly Controls (Vextor camera paths around an object or group of objects) etc.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 450	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:15:00 - [7] - Quote T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote: Automatic Cinematic Camera Controls Follow Object (Drone, Missile, Primary, etc.) Dolly Controls (Vextor camera paths around an object or group of objects) etc. Star Wars Empire at War had this and it was epic.
Ai Shun State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:21:00 - [8] - Quote Jojo Jackson wrote: I don't know how to solve this problem ... but the coolest part (space game with cool ships) is the worst part at the same time (box vis box fights). Flight recorder that allows you to replay an engagement with various camera angles, moving them, cutting, etc.
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 265	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:26:00 - [9] - Quote The aspect ratios in eve lead to it being quite small, check out STO's graphics, which are VERY nice, even if the game isn't. Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ... Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon. Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
Paragon Renegade Solar Arbiters 104	Posted - 2011.11.20 01:57:00 - [10] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Star Wars Empire at War OMIGAWD YES "Man, you aren't actually trying to do this, right? Nobody is that stupid right?" "How wrong you are"
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 229	Posted - 2011.11.20 02:22:00 - [11] - Quote Quote: Reson why most videos and fights in EvE are boring Action: simplest Environment: poor Action engaged: "and..." -that's the feeling you have when you look at each and every video of Eve. I'd like dozens of fracking buttons of different actions, engagement systems, options (flying), skills actually meaning something. Unfortunately it doesn't, all you have to do is fly Minmatar/Angel. This is one of the reasons it sucks that much.
Faith Sunstrider Manufact Co. 3	Posted - 2011.11.20 02:40:00 - [12] - Quote FFS it's EVE and not EvE!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1565	Posted - 2011.11.20 02:41:00 - [13] - Quote Faith Sunstrider wrote: FFS it's EVE and not EvE! GëívGëí GÇªdammit forums, stop trying to pre-interpret html entities. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
SilentSkills Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire 46	Posted - 2011.11.20 03:03:00 - [14] - Quote we just need a smaller map-like secondary screen to see the red-orange-purple-blue boxes with blinky ****. While the rest of the screen is filled with the usual EVE stuff, and your ship zoomed in its full glory. Kinda like a minimap/radar whatever you call it. Follow me?
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 229	Posted - 2011.11.20 03:04:00 - [15] - Quote SilentSkills wrote: we just need a smaller map-like secondary screen to see the red-orange-purple-blue boxes with blinky ****. While the rest of the screen is filled with the usual EVE stuff, and your ship zoomed in its full glory. Kinda like a minimap/radar whatever you call it. Follow me? Don't worry soon enough you'll have full blues in null wherever you go, the only reds you'll see is high sec bears. Interesting game. Or not.
Jooce McNasty Islefive Consulting 46	Posted - 2011.11.20 03:24:00 - [16] - Quote The best EVE combat videos IMHO are the ones RnK make. Not because of the battles but because they add in their Comm's and commentary. This makes the videos 100x better then people running pvp videos to music. It would be cool if CCP implemented a record function that recorded all actions on grid, and allowed you to go back and replay the actions on grid as well edit them and move the camera around. This would prove 2 functions. 1. It could be used as a learning tool for new pilots, watch this replay tell me what was done wrong here type stuff or see where you made the mistake in a loosing battle. 2. It would allow for more cinematic type PVP battles where you could zoom in between ships and showing different angles. I don't know how hard this would be to do but if it was possible it could be amazing. I am pretty sure SC2's replays work like this.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 229	Posted - 2011.11.20 03:33:00 - [17] - Quote Jooce McNasty wrote: The best EVE combat videos IMHO are the ones RnK make. Not because of the battles but because they add in their Comm's and commentary. This makes the videos 100x better then people running pvp videos to music. It would be cool if CCP implemented a record function that recorded all actions on grid, and allowed you to go back and replay the actions on grid as well edit them and move the camera around. This would prove 2 functions. 1. It could be used as a learning tool for new pilots, watch this replay tell me what was done wrong here type stuff or see where you made the mistake in a loosing battle. 2. It would allow for more cinematic type PVP battles where you could zoom in between ships and showing different angles. I don't know how hard this would be to do but if it was possible it could be amazing. I am pretty sure SC2's replays work like this. That would be great but you really can't imagine how much "stuff" (hardware) from your side this would ask. I already smell tears from here
Jooce McNasty Islefive Consulting 46	Posted - 2011.11.20 03:42:00 - [18] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Jooce McNasty wrote: The best EVE combat videos IMHO are the ones RnK make. Not because of the battles but because they add in their Comm's and commentary. This makes the videos 100x better then people running pvp videos to music. It would be cool if CCP implemented a record function that recorded all actions on grid, and allowed you to go back and replay the actions on grid as well edit them and move the camera around. This would prove 2 functions. 1. It could be used as a learning tool for new pilots, watch this replay tell me what was done wrong here type stuff or see where you made the mistake in a loosing battle. 2. It would allow for more cinematic type PVP battles where you could zoom in between ships and showing different angles. I don't know how hard this would be to do but if it was possible it could be amazing. I am pretty sure SC2's replays work like this. That would be great but you really can't imagine how much "stuff" (hardware) from your side this would ask. I already smell tears from here Ya I can smell the frying circuit boards from here, but it would be epic. Could you imagine the player made movies? The fact that people could make epic space battles post them on YouTube. It could increase the subscriber base if combat could look cool. My wife loves the idea of eve. The epic space battles the cool looking ships. She hates the fact that she feels like shes playing an excel spread sheet. She has never spent more then 30 min playing even because of the UI and the way the game actually acts.
Elrich Kouvo Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2011.11.20 04:05:00 - [19] - Quote Admit the bounty hunter system is broken and then remove it please. You don't have to add anything. Just remove it, because you can not fix it.
Sentient Blade Walk It Off Coalition of the Unfortunate 85	Posted - 2011.11.20 04:09:00 - [20] - Quote I want a decent radar overlay + Picture in Picture that can be slabved to another target, i.e. the enemy fleet.
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 97	Posted - 2011.11.20 07:36:00 - [21] - Quote Quote: But as soon as you fly your very first Mission, you soom out so far, that you can't even see your own ship The only reason you would do this is if you have a really crappy computer, and I mean really crappy so 1 missile reduces FPS Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt!
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 372	Posted - 2011.11.20 07:39:00 - [22] - Quote Dunno having alot of red boxes going flashy on me makes me panic every fleet fight i ever been in. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Pithior Anarchist Aperture Harmonics K162 0	Posted - 2011.11.20 10:22:00 - [23] - Quote When the Hybrid buff comes out, I'll be eyeing up so close to your ship, I could read the unit numbers of the parts I blast off.
Jojo Jackson 5	Posted - 2011.11.20 11:01:00 - [24] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Quote: But as soon as you fly your very first Mission, you soom out so far, that you can't even see your own ship The only reason you would do this is if you have a really crappy computer, and I mean really crappy so 1 missile reduces FPS Not true. You zoom out as the targets start at around 25km (Tutorial mission). As soon as you can see your ship AND the enemys on screen ... your ship is to small, to see the model. Same for enemy ship models. They are so small, that you can't realy see them, when you are in optimal range of your tutorial weapons. Same for Battleships in level 4 missions. While some close range BS are fine, 50km orbiting BS are allready red boxes (Ghurista for example). With some luck you see a black-somthing within the red box. But that's all :(. Nova Fox wrote: Dunno having alot of red boxes going flashy on me makes me panic every fleet fight i ever been in. I don't say, red boxes can't be a thrill ;). But actual see the enemys ships (the white in the eyes) would be even MORE thrill g. To make this wors, you don't even see your or your enemys shots most of the time when they use Autocannons or Rails. Lasers are fin (if you see shots, it's allways lasers). Missiles up to some range too. But ... some of the bigged ships (BS+ size) are hundrets of meters up to some kilometer in size ... how can it come, that I see just a red box at 50km ?
Arthur Frayn Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 37	Posted - 2011.11.20 11:15:00 - [25] - Quote Say what you want about Star Trek Online, but the mandatory 10 km max weapon range at least makes fights look cool. Pity it has nothing else going for it.

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