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Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:18:00 -
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I get the "EVE is real" thing, but, how does training 25+ days for a ship give you a more solid general base of knowledge? |
Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:59:00 -
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I never mentioned instant gratification. But thanks, I know there are other games out there that offer it. I went off by Shahai's IRL example having nothing to do with EVE. |
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Posted - 2014.07.14 18:37:00 -
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Do you oppose the change CCP did to T2 guns no longer needing the class below it in order to use them? Somewhat of the same principal right?
Again, as Rain has said multiple times, since when has CCP cared about protecting players in a pvp situation? Why does CCP cares about players knowing how to fly a frigate before getting into a cruiser? You are still trying to compare skill points as IRL knowledge/experience.
If day one player titans ever become a thing then it simply means more PLEX sales for CCP, I don't see them saying no to more PLEX sales.
GÇ£What people resist is not change per se, but loss.GÇ¥ GÇò Ronald A. Heifetz |
Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:43:00 -
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True it is not the same, simply used it as an example against the following:
Shahai Shintaro wrote:
The general base is battleships. From any sort of realistic training you would have to know how to fly a battleship before learning how to use all the extra buttons that are there only for marauders.
Yes, you should know how to fly a battleship before getting into a marauder, but aren't multiple skills at level 5 too prohibitive? And once again, why does CCP cares about people knowing how to properly fly a ship or not? How many ALOD articles are there of people using T2 ships, the skill wait time did not improve their knowledge.
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Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:21:00 -
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You should re-read the OP. You keep using the word specialization as if the only way to learn about something is to first read a 200 page manual rather than read the first few chapters and dive in. Specialization comes after you are able to practice and test the thing it is you are trying to learn, not before hand.
A kestrel and a manticore serve two different purposes. While you want a kestrel for fighting in FW plexes 10/10, you want a manticore to run FW missions 10/10.
OP never said T2 > T1, he said that a ship (any ship, be it t1 or t2) with proper fittings is equal to two or more ships with bad fits and skills.
The actual reward shouldn't be sitting in the ship, but getting the mastery to IV or V. That is specialization. |
Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.14 22:43:00 -
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The mastery/specialization comparison still stands, and since you like using IRL examples so much, a heart or brain surgeon can both practice their studies before officially getting their title.
Shahai Shintaro wrote:You cannot specialize until you master the basics.
What basics are those? Patiently waiting?
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Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.14 23:42:00 -
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Hey look , another IRL analogy. It's a good thing you only have to wait in EVE rather than study, practice and take tests to get the skill. |
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:20:00 -
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How about stop using analogies to justify the status quo? |
Tibo Paralian
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Posted - 2014.07.15 02:23:00 -
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Shahai Shintaro wrote:Tibo Paralian wrote:How about stop using analogies to justify the status quo? I don't even know why I am responding at this point. You don't want reasons or anything else. Its obvious the only answer you'll accept is to let me fly whatever I want the second I create a character. Lets ignore the ramifications this will do to the eve market both inside and outside the game (you will never need to buy a cap sitter if you can just create a new character and train titan 1 in 10 minutes). Just tell me this, how can you fly a marauder if you don't know how to fly a battleship?
That's just unfair, you keep using analogies as if just because it applies to a lot in real life it must apply to a game. I definitely do not want titans to be trainable in 10 minutes.
Why do you assume that I do not know how to fly a battleship just because I do not have the racial BS skill to V? And even if I did not know how to, why does that concerns you or anybody for that matter? |
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