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Manaria
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:58:00 -
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I'm thinking about moving from a Vexor Cruiser to a Brutix Battle Cruiser. Other than the skills to purchase the Brutix, are there particular skills I should train up to be effective in this ship? I have been playing EVE for a couple of months and have about 1.6M skill points.
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:09:00 -
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Train for Dominix. You need somewhat good gunneryskills for the Brutix.
Domi is like a Vexor with a lot of lows/meds and a bigger dronebay. It's sweet and I fly it with 1,6 mio sp and heavy drones.
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Manaria
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:59:00 -
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Hmmm...I didn't think about going up to a Dominix. Can you say more about why you prefer going from a Vexor to a Domi rather than a Brutix. Sounds like it may be the better way to go.
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 28/06/2006 00:49:51
Brutix is, imo, only a mediocre ship. It is also heavily geared towards blasters as far as its damage output, so if you are heavy in drone skills, the brutix is not for you. The Domi, on the other hand, is strongly geared towards drones, and in the most popular nos/ew/heavy tank setups, the domi's drones deal most to all of the damage. And besides, in pretty much all respects, the Domi is a far better ship. Of course, the domi costs about 2.5 times as much.
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Skaaltel
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:36:00 -
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if you're doing missions as your career, the brutix is perfect for level 3 missions and will give you some incentive to start working towards t2 med. rail skills.
All you need to survive any L3 mission with a brutix is bc3, 2medium t2 reppers, and as many cap rechargers as you can fit. the rest is optional.
you don't have enough skillpoints to do a whole lot in pvp with anything other than a cruiser, so if that's the plan, all a brutix will do is make a more expensive kaboom. Domis are awesome for mission runners since you dont even need to train for large turrets, just get yourself t2 med drones and heavies and you're set to rock level 4s.
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:44:00 -
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i agree on it not being a droneboat, but its still a very good boat. What you stand to gain over a vexor:
Way better tanking
Your still doing roughly the same damage with drones
Railguns are usefull on missions for taking things out from far away
Only con being its slow as a whale,if i were a knew charactor knowing what i know now, id get a brutix before a domi.
the brutix will help you fly the dom better tbh, itll get you more used to slow high powered ships
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Manaria
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Skaaltel
All you need to survive any L3 mission with a brutix is bc3, 2medium t2 reppers, and as many cap rechargers as you can fit. the rest is optional.
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Sorry for the dumb question...can you remind me what a bc3 is ?
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AsfALT
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: AsfALT on 28/06/2006 12:43:27
Originally by: Skaaltel
All you need to survive any L3 mission with a brutix is bc3, 2medium t2 reppers, and as many cap rechargers as you can fit. the rest is optional.
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Sorry for the dumb question...can you remind me what a bc3 is ?
Thanks.
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Pichemanu
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Benglada
i agree on it not being a droneboat, but its still a very good boat. What you stand to gain over a vexor:
Way better tanking
Your still doing roughly the same damage with drones
Railguns are usefull on missions for taking things out from far away
Only con being its slow as a whale,if i were a knew charactor knowing what i know now, id get a brutix before a domi.
the brutix will help you fly the dom better tbh, itll get you more used to slow high powered ships
Don't think so... the vex get's a nice 10%bonus to drone hitpoints and dmg.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:48:00 -
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The tier2 gallente battlecruiser is going to be a drone ship so you will have a nice progression from Vexor -> Tier2 -> Dominix and Thorax -> Brutix -> Megathron
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Sandra Tseng
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sandra Tseng on 28/06/2006 14:02:29
On a side note. How do you setup a Brutix to be good with blasters?
I find it way to slow. It moves as fast as my Megathron with the main difference being that a 100MN AB or MWD really adds speed to a Mega - while the 10MN AB and MWD's are really too weak to really add speed to a Battlecruiser (just compare the thrust of the modules with the mass of the Brutix)
I wish they made 50Mn Propulsion modules for Battlecruisers....
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Mihae
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:04:00 -
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Brutix is a very good ship for alot of different duties. I would use it over Dominix anyday.
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Mihae
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Mihae on 28/06/2006 14:08:06
Ingnore this post.
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Nvali
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Posted - 2006.06.28 19:16:00 -
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The Brutix is very slow, relies on guns much more, is very slow, and relies on cap much more than cruisers since you are so slow you can't dodge any shots and have to tank everything. You will need to train cap, more cap, and forget about agility.
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Manaria
Hmmm...I didn't think about going up to a Dominix. Can you say more about why you prefer going from a Vexor to a Domi rather than a Brutix. Sounds like it may be the better way to go.
Thanks.
You'll get much more gain/skill in a Domi than a Brutix. The Domi is pretty cheap for a BS as well.
I'd say stick to droneboats untill you're somewhat good with them. Then train some gunneryskills and learn to fly Thorax/Brutix/Megathron.
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Stanis
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
The tier2 gallente battlecruiser is going to be a drone ship so you will have a nice progression from Vexor -> Tier2 -> Dominix and Thorax -> Brutix -> Megathron
Omg I wanted to write that but I wasn't home and I cba to log where I was and you wrote it before me and now I am crying 
p.s.
nvm, drugs are bad mkay.
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MrTripps
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:44:00 -
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Does Energy Emissions count towards a Nos? I have a couple of those on my Brutix setup. Nice for filling your cap back up after using MWD to get within blaster range.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mihae
Brutix is a very good ship for alot of different duties. I would use it over Dominix anyday.
why?
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: MrTripps
Does Energy Emissions count towards a Nos? I have a couple of those on my Brutix setup. Nice for filling your cap back up after using MWD to get within blaster range.
That wouldn't make any sence, since NOS don't need cap to activate.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mihae
Brutix is a very good ship for alot of different duties. I would use it over Dominix anyday.
well tbh i dont think u can find better general ship then domi...
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Mihae
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Mihae
Brutix is a very good ship for alot of different duties. I would use it over Dominix anyday.
why?
Way more hot m8.
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Flitz Farseeker
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Posted - 2006.12.15 13:20:00 -
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Vexor isn't really up for L3 missions, it just doesn't have the tank. My Brutix has more armor than my Vexor had shield, armor and hull! It does rely more on its guns but then it does have more hi-slots to fit them. With good armor rep (and cap) skills and mods, it will tank for ages.
You do need to be a little more careful with drones as it doesn't have a bonus to drone hp or dmg and only has space for one flight of 5 mediums.
I could get into a Domi pretty quick, but wouldn't have the gunnery or support skills to make it worthwhile. Now, the Myrmidon...
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Apolluon
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Posted - 2006.12.15 16:56:00 -
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Tip: Either pick the ship that complements your skills, or pick your skills to compliment a ship type.
The Vexor is a drone ship, so unless your points are way spread out, you are probably heavily specced in drones. Or flying the wrong ship.
Once you get that settled/figured, don't forget what everyone says about Tech II reppers, and Tech II this, and that.
Level 3's may be easy with a Tech II kit, but it takes a lot of time to do that, and you may not want to run L2's repeatedly while you wait for the points. For a BC in L3's, the minimum I'd go for is TII primary weapon, and TII tank. So either TII guns, or TII drones, and a minimum of 800k ish skillpoins in mechanic to get better hardeners, reppers, etc...
Now, remember, all pretty yellow tagged stuff costs money. Quite a bit of money to be specific.
For the same cost as an effective BC kitted for L3's, you can hook up a low end Domi with Tech 1 items, and handle your business in L3's while you wait for your BC related skills to get higher (if they aren't there already).
While a lot of people think it is an injustice to fit a BS with anything less than BS type weapons... In this particular case, you may find it a lot better/easier to do so while you get the high end BC skills you need to specialize in either a gun boat (Brutix) or a drone boat (myrmidon). I can fit large rails to my domi, and I still find myself fitting mediums. Mostly due to the 20 thousand rounds of medium ammo I have in my hangar, but... they do still work.
Just remember, on "kill" type missions, you will eventually pull a few missions where your ability to tank will be tested to the utmost the first one or two times through.
And if you *are* drone specced, it is certainly a lot easier to go to the Domi until you get your particular skills up to par for the BC. Trust me, I've gotten several Brutixes blown up because my skills weren't equal to the ship I was flying.
Apolluon
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thoradh
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.12.15 17:15:00 -
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Well first off, the dude says he has 1.6mil SP, which is way too low for fit/fly anything larger than a cruiser at all effectively...
First thing I'd recommend is, check all the navigation, engineering, mechanic and electronics skills you already have, and anything that increases you cap amount, and recharge rate, and saves you cap, increases your speed etc, all need to be really at lvl4 minimum before you get anything larger than a cruiser.
Yes, it is possible to jump into a domi, and fit it with T1 gear, and it will massively out-tank your Vexor, and indeed a Brutix or Myrmidon.
It will however be slow, sluggish, and you will more than likely spend 12-18 months skilling to get the domi to near its full potential. I'd say, be a bit patient, get as many core skills (that work on nearly all the ships you use) to lvl4, and if you want to fly a drone boat, then move up to a Myrmidon. The Brutix is a fantastic gunboat, and it only really shines when you have 3-4mil in gunnery. It also shines when you have 2mil in mechanic so you can T2 tank the thing, and with BC4 and 2 med reppers, you have an awesome tanker to boot.
I'd say be patient, get your core skills to a good level, and work your way up.
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