If there is a buy order for an item that says there is a minimum of 5. Is The price listed is for each item, or for the total of 5 items?

Yeah im thinking i see a way to make money.... But maybe i should just stay away from it lol.

in case you are wondering: there is a skill called Margin Trading. this skill lets you put up buy orders with money you don't have. this can be useful for honest traders because they can often be sure that by the time someone sells to their buy order, they will have sold enough other things to be able to pay up. however, if the buyer does not have enough cash at the time the sale happens, the buy order is cancelled and the seller keeps his items.
now, if you are a less than honest individual, you could go ahead and pick a really rare item that sounds valuable but really isn't (such as many officer modules), buy it up across all of eve for cheap and but up overpriced sell orders and even more overpriced buy orders. you goal is to encourage greedy and ignorant people to buy your overpriced item in the hope to sell it back to you for a profit. in reality, your buy order will fail and the mark is stuck with useless items that he bought for 100x what they are worth.

in case you are wondering: there is a skill called Margin Trading. this skill lets you put up buy orders with money you don't have. this can be useful for honest traders because they can often be sure that by the time someone sells to their buy order, they will have sold enough other things to be able to pay up. however, if the buyer does not have enough cash at the time the sale happens, the buy order is cancelled and the seller keeps his items.
now, if you are a less than honest individual, you could go ahead and pick a really rare item that sounds valuable but really isn't (such as many officer modules), buy it up across all of eve for cheap and but up overpriced sell orders and even more overpriced buy orders. you goal is to encourage greedy and ignorant people to buy your overpriced item in the hope to sell it back to you for a profit. in reality, your buy order will fail and the mark is stuck with useless items that he bought for 100x what they are worth.

in case you are wondering: there is a skill called Margin Trading. this skill lets you put up buy orders with money you don't have. this can be useful for honest traders because they can often be sure that by the time someone sells to their buy order, they will have sold enough other things to be able to pay up. however, if the buyer does not have enough cash at the time the sale happens, the buy order is cancelled and the seller keeps his items.

Personally, carebearly as it might be, I'd like to see orders placed with Margin Trading only visible if, at that exact moment, the buyer has enough money in hand. That wouldn't impact the honest use at all, but would eliminate this oddity where everything else on the market is what it says it is but some buy orders don't exist.

An alert scammer could still run the scam by waiting for the bait items to sell and shifting cash to an alt before the mark completes the transation.

Yeah im thinking i see a way to make money.... But maybe i should just stay away from it lol.

Personally, carebearly as it might be, I'd like to see orders placed with Margin Trading only visible if, at that exact moment, the buyer has enough money in hand. That wouldn't impact the honest use at all, but would eliminate this oddity where everything else on the market is what it says it is but some buy orders don't exist.

An alert scammer could still run the scam by waiting for the bait items to sell and shifting cash to an alt before the mark completes the transation.

Personally, carebearly as it might be, I'd like to see orders placed with Margin Trading only visible if, at that exact moment, the buyer has enough money in hand. That wouldn't impact the honest use at all, but would eliminate this oddity where everything else on the market is what it says it is but some buy orders don't exist.

An alert scammer could still run the scam by waiting for the bait items to sell and shifting cash to an alt before the mark completes the transation.

but it also has a lot of drawbacks for professional traders (and might not even be feasible, depending on how much more server load it produces).

There is a long and indepth discussion of this question in the old F&I post that Fozzie made to ask the community for thoughts on this that is worth looking up.

It has no drawbacks for professional traders. They post buy orders to buy the goods. They have no interest in their buy orders appearing when they can't buy the goods.

The load argument is more valid, but really, if my wallet changes once a second and that causes a callback on 300 buy orders... a BBC Micro could keep up with that.

I would be grateful if you could link to it.

It has no drawbacks for professional traders. They post buy orders to buy the goods. They have no interest in their buy orders appearing when they can't buy the goods.

The load argument is more valid, but really, if my wallet changes once a second and that causes a callback on 300 buy orders... a BBC Micro could keep up with that.

another disadvantage of your proposal: imagine two guys involved in a bidding war over an item. guy one knows that guy two can update his order in the next 30 seconds, so he 'hides' his own order by transferring cash away to an alt.

Most traders put up sell orders and buy order. Usually they dont have the ISK for the buy orders until some sell orders are filled.

Thus with your stupid idea it would prevent a trader to set up their buy orders.