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Apollo30
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo30 on 28/06/2006 23:51:33
Ok here goes......
I was helping some friends in a lvl4 mission earlier this evening (BST), we were in a Deadspace location and had cleared all but one group of rats out. Whilst waiting for our shields and cap to return to full i decide AFTER pulling my drones back to the drone bay that i would tractor in 2 loot cans as i had 2 tractor`s fitted......
Suddenly i get this "your security status has been lowered" across my headset, im thinking what... was that me !?!... next thing i know BOOM concord have warped in and blown my Raven up.....
Why ??, what the hell did i do, i had 2 loot cans targeted and my heavy launchers were being reloaded at the time and my drones were in my drone bay, i never had my friends targeted so i never did anything wrong. I also never gor anykind of warning to what i had done, just blown up for no reason.
CCP you need to sort this quickly and promptly, i heard that concord was acting all strange recently, is this something to do with that... i have been working hard to get my security status to where it was and higher so why after months of hard work would i jeperdise all that. This is simply a mistake, i have petitioned it but according to certain people it could take weeks even months before the petition gets looked at so im posting aswell...... hopefully this will get a quicker response !!
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:52:00 -
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u blew up the cans that werent youres insta concord nope concord was workign fine.
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Kaicith Clamente
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kaicith Clamente on 28/06/2006 23:56:50
 Originally by: Miss Overlord
u blew up the cans that werent youres insta concord nope concord was workign fine.
I never blew up the cans.. i was trying to loot them, how was i supposed to blow them up, i lost my raven before the cans got within opening range, plus i said already my launchers were RELOADING (cant fire em off when they`re reloading) !!!
this is my alt sorry.. did`nt realise it had changed the character (apollo30)
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Stanis
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:15:00 -
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I think you can't "tractor beam" other ppls stuff anymore, and that it isa crime now?
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:15:00 -
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ssdd
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Apollo30
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:22:00 -
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You can tractor a can belonging to a gang member aslong as they are in the immediate vicinity, otherwise you have to fly up to it to open it.
On several hundred occassions i have opened, even blown up gang member cans, weather they were logged on or not even when they have left the same system and i have NEVER ever been hassled by concord for it.
I never shot at a can, i never shot at the gang members, my drones were in my bay and my launchers were reloading.... so why concord warped in and blew up my raven i will probably never know. As far as im concerned it was a mistake on CCP`s part and i want justice for it, i,e my ship and destroyed modules replaced OR the isk to replace what i have lost !!
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Trintara es'Ki
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:24:00 -
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I got concorded today as well...and have no idea why.
I was ganged with a friend and we were simply doing some level 1 missions....mission was complete and we were just emptying out the cans when suddenly my friend told me I went red, and concord appeared and blew me up.
If Concord as judge jury and executioner decide you've done something wrong, I think the least that should happen is you get a mail telling you what it was.
I petitioned for re-imbursement. If I don't get it, I hope to at least find out what I'm supposed to have done 
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:26:00 -
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You got hit by a bug. File a petition and you have a good chance to get your ships back.
When this happens the next time hit your screenshot key as soon as you see the message. That way you can provide some sort of prove that your launchers where fully loaded.
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$ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Lokinen Torvalaseki
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo30
Why ??, what the hell did i do, i had 2 loot cans targeted and my heavy launchers were being reloaded at the time and my drones were in my drone bay,
They blew you up because you fail to fit your raven correctly.
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Apollo30
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo30 on 29/06/2006 00:38:19
Originally by: Lokinen Torvalaseki
Originally by: Apollo30
Why ??, what the hell did i do, i had 2 loot cans targeted and my heavy launchers were being reloaded at the time and my drones were in my drone bay,
They blew you up because you fail to fit your raven correctly.
lol..... well that has cheered me up somewhat. But still no feesable reason to kill my raven.
I have petitioned this incident but im told it could take forever for CCP to answer it, and yea i REALLY wish i had taken a screen shot of it, but alas i never, anyways they got the logs ect so hopefully i can get reimbursed for this mistake !!
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:41:00 -
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The whole 'blowing up your ship for doing something to a can' idea is really freeking lame imo.
Simple flagging is sufficient deterrent and allows the player to exact vengeance if he so desires.
Player solutions are always > npc solutions in most cases.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:43:00 -
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concord are pirates now 
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Lokinen Torvalaseki
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:44:00 -
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I remember a while ago someone told me that if both players set standings to eachother at +10, you won't get concorded for tractoring their cans and etc... someone may want to test or verify this though.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:46:00 -
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tbh, the lamest thing to come out of this thread is the fact you lose Security Status for blowing up a can. Same for blowing up a drone. -0.4 Each time. Even in lowsec.
wtf?
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Apollo30
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Posted - 2006.06.29 00:53:00 -
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I have got my standing to the poeple i was helping in this mission to a +10 and them with me, so when they kill something and it drops loot it has a small blue icon on it.
The whole situation is lame... i spoke to my friends after the incident between petitioning and posting, they said my name had a red flashing banner across it and then incame concord.
If i was about to do something illegal then i would have had a security warning pop up on screen expalining my acts and the consequences and tbh why would i even try this in a pos system. I havent btw disabled this security warning box, i still have it enabled, but even so i still got hammered for no reason. I just hope CCp sort this real quick so it does`nt happen to anyone else
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Herring
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Posted - 2006.06.29 04:41:00 -
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They blow you up if you use an ecm burst module too, and from the description that's just supposed to break the lock of someone that's already targetted you.
Turning it on to test how long my badger could sustain cap was a big mistake, lost a 30 mil cargo expander and then another badger when the aggression timer had run to zero, suddenly reset to 'less than a minute remaining' as soon as I undocked. Buggy.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.06.29 05:40:00 -
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I think Concord has some weird religious fetish for cargo cans or something.
Now I wonder...if one ship blew up a cargo can in one part of a system and another ship blew up an industrial ship in another part of the same system which incident would get the Concord response first?
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Prestis
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Posted - 2006.06.29 07:30:00 -
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All high slot mods count as 'weapons'. You would of got CONCORDed for nosing the can too.
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Herring
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Posted - 2006.06.29 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Prestis
All high slot mods count as 'weapons'. You would of got CONCORDed for nosing the can too.
Dunno if you were replying to my post or not, but the burst ecm is a midslot.
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.06.29 07:39:00 -
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Beer+coding=bugs
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Siobhan Ni
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Posted - 2006.06.29 07:46:00 -
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Concord response and reaction needs to be seriously addressed and re-balanced. At the minute there is absolutely no margin for error. If you accidentally blow up a tin, or fire a single shot at a gang member then you die, plain and simple. A more measured response would be preferable, but obviously one that could not be exploited. Perhaps concord could send in a smaller detachment to 'encourage' you to cease agressive activities (jam you), then send in the battle ships if you persist and re-offend .
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
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Posted - 2006.06.29 08:38:00 -
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Well i have accidentally fired against a gang member (two missiles to be exact). Thankfully his ship was way too big to even notice the damage (sort of speak). I never got the security message and thankfully i never saw Concord coming in all guns blazing. That was during a mission.
I also have opened an ECCM module once in a mission to test (i did it in deadspace during fight) and i got the security warning message but i did not see concord warping in again thankfully.
I fly a Tristan and all these happened after the patch.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo30
I have got my standing to the poeple i was helping in this mission to a +10 and them with me, so when they kill something and it drops loot it has a small blue icon on it.
The whole situation is lame... i spoke to my friends after the incident between petitioning and posting, they said my name had a red flashing banner across it and then incame concord.
If i was about to do something illegal then i would have had a security warning pop up on screen expalining my acts and the consequences and tbh why would i even try this in a pos system. I havent btw disabled this security warning box, i still have it enabled, but even so i still got hammered for no reason. I just hope CCp sort this real quick so it does`nt happen to anyone else
Your standings to each other make no difference.
Find the log of the event, and read through it.
It might give you a clue as to what rule you broke.
Only petition when you are sure it wasn't your fault.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Apollo30
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Posted - 2006.06.29 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo30 on 29/06/2006 10:58:25
Edited by: Apollo30 on 29/06/2006 10:55:29
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Apollo30
I have got my standing to the poeple i was helping in this mission to a +10 and them with me, so when they kill something and it drops loot it has a small blue icon on it.
The whole situation is lame... i spoke to my friends after the incident between petitioning and posting, they said my name had a red flashing banner across it and then incame concord.
If i was about to do something illegal then i would have had a security warning pop up on screen expalining my acts and the consequences and tbh why would i even try this in a pos system. I havent btw disabled this security warning box, i still have it enabled, but even so i still got hammered for no reason. I just hope CCp sort this real quick so it does`nt happen to anyone else
Your standings to each other make no difference.
Find the log of the event, and read through it.
It might give you a clue as to what rule you broke.
Only petition when you are sure it wasn't your fault.
Firstly i have petitioned it and i have logged into game today and still no reply.
Secondly i have read the log, it just states that i was the victim and concord destroyed my raven plus certain modules and apart from that the system and time that it happened i.e Isinokka, Deadspave location ect ect.....
CCP have copies of the logs and so it is down to them to sort out, it would be courteous of them to respond quickly to this as it could happen again to other players.
I enjoy playing EvE and i dont want to have to let my sub dry up because CCP made a mistake and are takeing far too long to sort it, i know they have hundreds up on hundreds of petitions ect to go through but things like this IMO need to be sorted first and foremost.
Eitherway i got 15 days left i hope its sorted before then if not then i suppose i`ll have to go elsewhere with my money.... sorry CCP but what happened is unforgiveable.
Thank you for reading and posting and thanks to everyone for being so understanding in this matter.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:00:00 -
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By log he probably means the gamelog, not the killmail. You will find this in the /eve/capture/gamelogs directory, and it should show the events leading down to the demise of your raven.
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Apollo30
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo30 on 29/06/2006 11:26:36
Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
By log he probably means the gamelog, not the killmail. You will find this in the /eve/capture/gamelogs directory, and it should show the events leading down to the demise of your raven.
Ok thank you i just checked and im not going to post the whole log here but this is as close as im going to get :-
[ 2006.06.28 22:06:30 ] (notify) Targeting attempt failed as the designated object is no longer present.
[ 2006.06.28 22:07:05 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Widowmaker Heavy Missile hits Centior Cannibal, doing 164.7 damage.
[ 2006.06.28 22:07:07 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Widowmaker Heavy Missile hits Centior Cannibal, doing 128.7 damage.
[ 2006.06.28 22:07:08 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Havoc Heavy Missile hits Centior Cannibal, doing 185.9 damage.
[ 2006.06.28 22:07:44 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000.
[ 2006.06.28 22:08:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Commander hits you, doing 501.9 damage.
[ 2006.06.28 22:08:00 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD Police Commander places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 815.4 damage.
As you can see i was fireing at a rat not a player and NOT a loot can when i took a security hit and concord warped in... i have come to the conclusion that concord is seriously bugged.
My advice : If you cant solo a mission then DONT do it till the problem is fixed, and CCP you should be warning players of this problem weather you see it as one or not !!!
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Ivan Kirilenkov
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo30
Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
By log he probably means the gamelog, not the killmail. You will find this in the /eve/capture/gamelogs directory, and it should show the events leading down to the demise of your raven.
Ok thank you i just checked and im not going to post the whole log here but this is as close as im going to get :-
Suggest you add that to the petition then :)
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Therrin Itup
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:43:00 -
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appearently, according to gm's tractor beams are concordable actions now.. when it seem,s odd, tractor beams wont work unless you are GANGED WITH THAT PERSON.... it seems odd to me that the designated hauler gets killed for doin his/her job...
this same thing happened to my wife, she was hauling cans for us, we were all in same gang, she tractored the can and concord killed her.. bye bye expanders..
however..ore thiueves should be glad to know that you can still steal from honest players and ccp will reinforce you and even coddle you, while penalizing honest working players by blowing up thier ships.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:48:00 -
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bad necroer bad!
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