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MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.29 13:57:00 - [1] Edited by: MACTEP on 29/06/2006 13:59:29 i got many mails with the threats and praises but its simply shocks when you see such mail 2006.06.29 12:30 u podded me yesterday, it's ***** lame to use an interdictor to kill pods... Hopefully someone kills you for me..cause i lost my all *** expensive implants as well.... RA IS SCUM. You could only kill us cause you had strength in numbers...as always. RA cant fight a . P.S that 5 mil ISK bounty is from me... DIE head -v- "bringme2ilve" usually the same i heard in local from lots members of -5- (m corp shinra which are -lv- now) -v- etc.... i heard many times from RA members,before coalition formed: "-Nap with -lv-? -v-? we don t want to see many of them with + standing, couse they smack a lot...we ll leave alliance to RAT or another corps" so we are fighting all together until we have such enemies. half of coalition just like zombies ,learned them to 2 phrases of "RA bull**" and "coalition are the best". RA members learn that coalition - 200-300 pvp pilots + lots of meat
Remedial	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:03:00 - [2] They're still mad about Chernobyl.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:04:00 - [3] Sounds like a random nub that shouldnt have been in 0.0 to start with to me. As for why you've got many enemies, that's probably because you're closed (as in, most people dont hear much about RA) and have the reputation of going to any length to get/keep control, no matter wether that includes what is considered lame or otherwise unwanted gameplay. Note that I say 'reputation'. I've not seen it done, but I must say that I've seen too many RA members defend gameplay I consider too lame to be allowed to exist in this game. So I too would say my default stance towards RA is negative. Take that as you like, it's not meant as a flame. Old blog
IamBen	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:05:00 - [4] i dont hate you mactep. I think you are the funniest person in EvE.
Shadowsword	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:12:00 - [5] Originally by: MACTEP u podded me yesterday, it's ***** lame to use an interdictor to kill pods... Hopefully someone kills you for me..cause i lost my all ***** expensive implants as well.... Looks to me that Rod Blaine is right: basically a loud-mouthed noob that shouldn't put it's toes in 0.0. The golden Eve rule "Don't fly a ship that you can't afford to lose" also apply for implants. He probably figured that he was too good to get podded, but an interdictor bubble doesn't care if you can click fast on a planet or not. ------------------------------------------ Don't make War, War is messy. Make love instead, so your kids will do the War part for you.
Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:15:00 - [6] RAT does not help eaither. The truth will set you free
Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Remedial They're still mad about Chernobyl. not funny Caldari - BS idea
Burzon	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:21:00 - [8] Hi MACTEP, it looks like this mail came from a -V- member. Please be so kind anf forward this mail to me ingame. I will take care of it. I personally cannot stand behaviour and speech like this and will have a "word" with the -V- member that wrote this mail. Human coexistence can only work on mutual respect long term and even if i would fight RA to the most bitter end, sending a mail like this is not to be tolerated. Never forget that this is a game and it is meant to be fun ... Nuff said Burzon, -V- High Council CEO PAX Interstellar Proud Member of -V-
Edoo	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:25:00 - [9] I <3 RA. I admire them for their willpower and determination. Their enemies claim they use lame tactics, but i know from experience that they can PvP damn good. Keep going RA, you are a model to how alliances should be - independant and determined.

Imaran	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:26:00 - [10] Racism, bad language and race based trolling will not be tolerated on these forums. Please refrain from posting offensive material. Sexeh CRC Website


Nebuli	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:26:00 - [11] Firstly the guy you killed was a n00b by the sounds of it. Smack from V tbh is something new in the war on RED, and I cant realy say V smack alot anyway, we do have a no smack policy, but I think alot of feathers get ruffled when people start using babblefish and start to see what you guys are actualy saying sometimes, I have personaly been called a paedophile and all sorts I cant realy put on a public forum. As for why people hate RED so much, one word realy arogance, also the use of questionable tactics. CEO - Art of War
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:33:00 - [12] Originally by: Remedial Removed - Imaran You, dear boy, just entered a very privelidged list. I'd get a slot 21 implant if I were you, it gives you 360 degree vision.
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:43:00 - [13] Nope cant say that I acctully "hate RA" I can use it in a phrase to try and discrabe when something goes wrong (Murphys law :P) but i dont mean it. It is a game and it is gonna take really much to start hate someone for real. But I think that RA playin on that we "hate"them and that has streanghten them and got em closer. But it cant be many that is "really" hating you>???. If it is, i really feel sorry for them. But i can say that the smack can be horrible sometimes. Problem is cant speak or read russian language so I dunno what you say in local besides when someone translate it for me. But i give back with same coin, I smack back on "my language" and laughing so hard I¦m almost falling off my chair Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Sammy Xan	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:49:00 - [14] I lost my first ship to a RA guy in a Ferox who was camping a 0.4 gate. Ever since my private RA setting is -10 no matter what my corporation or alliance says ^^ You made your bed now sleep in it ^^
Jennie Marlboro	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Sammy Xan ... my private RA setting is -10 no matter what my corporation or alliance says With that attitude, you really have no business being in a corporation or alliance. The revolution will not be televised. It will, however, be available on pay-per-view.
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:24:00 - [16] we don't hate you guys, well some of us may hate you in game but that's not 'real' hate, you know how it is oh and btw Originally by: MACTEP RA members learn that coalition - 200-300 pvp pilots + lots of meat i guess you guys can stop crying how it's not fair to fight 999vs1 then also, i must say that i'm pretty shocked at some of the bablefish translations i've seen from you guys... (not you personally, and i don't remember the names of those that did) i know Shinra has a reputation concerning smack, and i've been guilty of it myself too, but like Nebuli says, there is a difference between smacking and just outright insulting vulgar language (even worse, written in a language that the receiving side isn't familiar with... that is just cowardly)
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:50:00 - [17] Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/06/2006 15:50:33 Originally by: Uther Doull (even worse, written in a language that the receiving side isn't familiar with... that is just cowardly) I can't say that I care much about smack in local. If it's boring during a system lockdown and other people smack, then I usually read forums or play a browser game meanwhile. The longer this war last, the less am I emotionally involved. This war has become more or less a task that people do, because they know the importance and want to win, but not much more. E.g. in RL you have to maw the lawn regularily, in EVE you have war against RA. Ok, sometimes I hated the server in the past, but usually not RA. Hey, and sometimes I even had a lot of fun in this war, although it happens less frequently now. Sorry, if I disillusioned someone.
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:01:00 - [18] Edited by: Finix Jaeger on 29/06/2006 17:02:38 Well 90% of the times I cant understand what some of your guys are saying (babelfish sucks tbh). But its not really hate, the coalition vs RA conflict has been going on for so long that its all we know. And whatever that mail said, DO NOTclaim that all of us are like that. Its a game and sometimes smackheads like that forget it... _______________________________
Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:54:00 - [19] I am sorry you received this mail MACTEP. I hope you dont consider abuse to be characteristic of us since I think you know me and I know you a little by now. As for why generally people dont like RA then I would say there are a few things you could do: - Do not consider others to be worse than you just because. - Do not use and defend tactics just because CCP doesnt call them an exploit. (Gaining honour is a proactive process. For example Light Darkness when -v- was smaller, easier to supervise, simply forbid ANY WCS to be used in pvp) - Do not let your members post killmails in local chat. - Do not repeatedly say on the forums that we try to blob you. You know we have fought you outnumbered MANY times as -V- and you know that you avoid fighting MANY times until you have 2x the munbers. IS that a lie? I dont think you will say it is. (This last is the least of your "problems" but I mention it to you because I know its the only one that you personally are guilty of) -Develop diplomacy-diplomats. Thats just a small list with a few things and I am certain other people can tell you other things. In any event, for the record, I have fought MACTEP a few times and always found him to be a honourable oponent. If this mail (removed so I cant see it) was from a -V- member you can be sure there will be disciplinary action. If it was from an Art Of War member I can ensure you that I will also take personal action in addition to whatever Corp management decided. Fly safe (until we meet )
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.29 18:49:00 - [20] As Burzon said, said the mail onto him if it's from a V member, we'll slap them about a bit for it. [Art of War][- V -]

Saerid	Posted - 2006.06.29 18:49:00 - [21] Hate.. is too strong a word by far I'd say. And the usual suspects from RA you ran into in PvP are ok more often than not (though when the smack does break out it's pretty horrible. it's really noteworthy how shockingly rude people are when they're not using english). As for dislike.. probably the lengths RA is willing to go to get their way. Typical example would be 1 carrier and 1 iteron deploying 750 thousand m3 of materials/POS in one go day before exploit gets fixed type of affairs. The actions give off a distinct impression they'll stop at nothing. Even if it was just a handful people actually doing it and rest disapproving, everyone gets painted with the same brush eventually.
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.29 18:50:00 - [22] I always thought that more enemies = better. And when ppl are afraid of you - they starting to write such mails. I post them in "Humour" section of Rage and Terror corp forum. ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Rufus Scheggia	Posted - 2006.06.29 20:00:00 - [23] Well I'm not used to write a lot here, but if I look at my first day in 0.0 ... well I find that RA was the enemy, and now I can't fugure what could be my life without RA I usually open my corp forum in the morning and I find something about RA ... a LV POS in reinforced while we sleep ... four carriers outside the station waiting for us ... a corpmate that lost his super T2 ship ganked by Rasatan, every day something new ... EVE it's a war game lets have fun together. No hate from this side of the frontline ... only a few T2 guns Ruf
crice	Posted - 2006.06.29 22:46:00 - [24] There is only one reason. They want your roids!
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.06.30 00:09:00 - [25] Edited by: pershphanie on 30/06/2006 00:10:25 Originally by: MACTEP Edited by: MACTEP on 29/06/2006 13:59:29 i got many mails with the threats and praises but its simply shocks when you see such mail so we are fighting all together until we have such enemies. half of coalition just like zombies ,learned them to 2 phrases of "RA bull****" and "coalition are the best". RA members learn that coalition - 200-300 pvp pilots + lots of meat Alot of it has to do with RA's rep for ebaying (im not saying you do, but thats the perception). I dont think you guys will ever shake that rep reguardless if it is fair or not. What would help is if youre leadership wised up with the politics of eve alittle bit. RA isolates it self too much, not enough close ties to other alliances. Several alliances have made an effort to be friends with RA, but RA did not reciprocate so those other alliances lost interest. You've missed several good opertunities. Ex - When LV offered you a NAP it would have not only allowed you to keep cashe, but if you backed them up in return when ppl attack them you would have gained a powerfull ally. Someone who would possibly defend your honor when people slander you. The corosive internal politics of the RA counsil not only lead to bad political decisions, it leads your alliance to excesive self involvment which prevents you from thinking externaly. This is why there arent many left who like RA. Your alliance has alot of enemies, very few friends because of this. So when people say bad things about RA and not many others know you very well on a personal level this leads to those bad things to be believed reguardless of whether they are true or not. This is because there is not many people out there with first hand knoledge of RA to say otherwise. Its something you really need to work on. The russians in the south were very powerfull when they were in CA because you had other people who knew you that could vouche for you. Now that you are on your own and have isolated yoursleves RA has suffered because of it and will always do so untill that error is corrected. hope that clears things up for you.
Sister 9	Posted - 2006.06.30 01:03:00 - [26] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 30/06/2006 00:10:25 Originally by: MACTEP Edited by: MACTEP on 29/06/2006 13:59:29 i got many mails with the threats and praises but its simply shocks when you see such mail so we are fighting all together until we have such enemies. half of coalition just like zombies ,learned them to 2 phrases of "RA bull****" and "coalition are the best". RA members learn that coalition - 200-300 pvp pilots + lots of meat Alot of it has to do with RA's rep for ebaying (im not saying you do, but thats the perception). I dont think you guys will ever shake that rep reguardless if it is fair or not. What would help is if youre leadership wised up with the politics of eve alittle bit. RA isolates it self too much, not enough close ties to other alliances. Several alliances have made an effort to be friends with RA, but RA did not reciprocate so those other alliances lost interest. You've missed several good opertunities. Ex - When LV offered you a NAP it would have not only allowed you to keep cashe, but if you backed them up in return when ppl attack them you would have gained a powerfull ally. Someone who would possibly defend your honor when people slander you. The corosive internal politics of the RA counsil not only lead to bad political decisions, it leads your alliance to excesive self involvment which prevents you from thinking externaly. This is why there arent many left who like RA. Your alliance has alot of enemies, very few friends because of this. So when people say bad things about RA and not many others know you very well on a personal level this leads to those bad things to be believed reguardless of whether they are true or not. This is because there is not many people out there with first hand knoledge of RA to say otherwise. Its something you really need to work on. The russians in the south were very powerfull when they were in CA because you had other people who knew you that could vouche for you. Now that you are on your own and have isolated yoursleves RA has suffered because of it and will always do so untill that error is corrected. hope that clears things up for you. what i would be curious to know is exaclty how distant RA's general diplomatic policies are from BoB's. Similar are distant, someone can tell me. But i got a feeling it's not the latter. Perhaps BoB has just done it better?
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2006.06.30 01:06:00 - [27] Originally by: Evil Thug I always thought that more enemies = better. Yet strangely when faced with anything near even numbers RAT. runs down a hole as fast as it can not to been seen until their nub alt scout deems it all clear to log back on again. I can't remember the last time i had an even fight the 'best' (rofl - i believe you called yourself). Gank, log-on-gank, log off/log in alt, and bolt down a hole asap, you're no where near as good as you think you are. No one likes RA for pretty much the same reasons, lame, lame, tactics that aren't even game worthy. And certainly not in the spirit this game was made for. I'll shoot the Coalition all the same, but if they rub all RA off the map good on them. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Betonela	Posted - 2006.06.30 01:30:00 - [28] Edited by: Betonela on 30/06/2006 01:30:21 /respect to RA well i never get killed by RA :D but from this to this and now this seams to be hard to move them from 0.0 u can say all that about lame play etc until dont breake the game rule all is allowed
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.06.30 01:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Sister 9 what i would be curious to know is exaclty how distant RA's general diplomatic policies are from BoB's. Similar are distant, someone can tell me. But i got a feeling it's not the latter. Perhaps BoB has just done it better? Thats a good question. On the surface they are simlar diplomatic policies. Bob's diplomatic politics may even be more isolationist than RA's. However because BoB's internal structure is so much more stable than RA's BOB can get away with it while RA cannot. Everyone in bob is on the same page. We all have complete faith that we have the best leadership that money can buy. We also have the premere pilots that can execute their order. This combonation leads to a calm in the alliance. There is no need for rabble rabble. You'd never see DB preacher and molle play internal political games to gain power from each other. This combined with the quality of pilots is what seperates bob from the rest and allows them to conduct an isolationist policy without major reprocusions. Red alliance on the otherhand do have the some quality pilots that could form a similar strength for them (probably not as good as bob, but good enough to bring them stability). What they lack is stable leadership. I believe this is due to a flaw in their internal structure. They are making the mistake of running their alliance like a country. For all practal purposes alliance are not similar to countries, they are similar to armies and should be run as such. All counsil based alliances where the leader does not have real athority will fail eventually. The decenting viewpoints of a counsil is devicisive. With out a strong leader at the top with real athority it is the natural that counsil members will persue their own adjendas instead of focusing on the good of the alliance. Red alliance gets so wrapped up in these internal politics that their leadership has no time to persue external relationships. Alliances with no leaders lead to them becoming groups of corperations instead of 1 group. This is why while maintaining similar external policies bob remains strong while red alliance can barely hold together. sorry the long winded response that goes off on strange tangents.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.06.30 01:50:00 - [30] Edited by: pershphanie on 30/06/2006 01:50:38 double post



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