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God Arthie
Steel and Strong
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:11:00 -
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Hello.
First of all I'd like to tell that this post follows all the rules described in "Forum rules" and it is not intended to create any discussion about my ban's neither this post will include "private communications" (but if you ever receive them you will clearly understand how CCP works and how much it cares about their paying costumers).
I'm a programmer, so I have and use many software that could be considered and used for macroing purposes(this software includes compilers, debuggers, unpackers, etc). And at work I've had some "troubles" so to play Eve at work I've had to use VNC over ssh tunnel. I've been mining hard, using multiple accounts when I was home and just one-two at work(as it was really just afk minning and I could stay in space and don't even have an asteroid targeted for hours).
A bit more then month ago I was banned, as you may imagine, the ban was for macroing and all my accounts got lot of ISK removed(I've not used any software for macroing nor any additional software, not considering EveHQ). Without getting into details, the answer from the support team was useless and after sending a few more followups I clarified myself on my activities and how much I play and from where. The second answer for the ticket was yesterday as it got closed with similar message as the first one.
So I'd like to suggest you, fellow players, to be careful and not getting into this game, as you may just get banned for no actual reason and without getting any support from the "support team".
PS: Jita still has the ISK scammers and players who have payed for the game are the ones who are getting banned.
Hope any GM reading this post reads it to the end and checks that all rules were followed. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5559
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:13:00 -
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The short version: I got banned for botting & CCP ignored me, don't give them money anymore. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:14:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:Hello.
First of all I'd like to tell that this post follows all the rules described in "Forum rules" and it is not intended to create any discussion about my ban's neither this post will include "private communications" (but if you ever receive them you will clearly understand how CCP works and how much it cares about their paying costumers).
I'm a programmer, so I have and use many software that could be considered and used for macroing purposes(this software includes compilers, debuggers, unpackers, etc). And at work I've had some "troubles" so to play Eve at work I've had to use VNC over ssh tunnel. I've been mining hard, using multiple accounts when I was home and just one-two at work(as it was really just afk minning and I could stay in space and don't even have an asteroid targeted for hours).
A bit more then month ago I was banned, as you may imagine, the ban was for macroing and all my accounts got lot of ISK removed(I've not used any software for macroing nor any additional software, not considering EveHQ). Without getting into details, the answer from the support team was useless and after sending a few more followups I clarified myself on my activities and how much I play and from where. The second answer for the ticket was yesterday as it got closed with similar message as the first one.
So I'd like to suggest you, fellow players, to be careful and not getting into this game, as you may just get banned for no actual reason and without getting any support from the "support team".
PS: Jita still has the ISK scammers and players who have payed for the game are the ones who are getting banned.
Hope any GM reading this post reads it to the end and checks that all rules were followed.
You got any stuffs I can haz?
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid" - Ramona McCandless, Untitled Accepting donations for a Nestor (every 1 ISK counts) |

Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
255
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:17:00 -
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Lame |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2865
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:18:00 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
You got any stuffs I can haz?
Would you actually want it if he had it leftover ? "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

God Arthie
Steel and Strong
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:21:00 -
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Well, there is one part that is wrong. I wasn't botting. |

Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:22:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
You got any stuffs I can haz?
Would you actually want it if he had it leftover ?
Reprocessed materials have no smell :D
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid" - Ramona McCandless, Untitled Accepting donations for a Nestor (every 1 ISK counts) |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2865
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:23:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:Well, there is one part that is wrong. I wasn't botting. Macros will olso get you banned fairly quickly as well. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1271
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:23:00 -
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Never use VNC over pssssshhhhh tunnel, unless you're absolutely sure it has enough pssssssshhhhhh. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5561
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:26:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:Well, there is one part that is wrong. I wasn't botting. I still have a pending ticket, so if this time they read it and do what I've asked my account would be banned(for lifetime) or I will finally get the ISK back. In the case of ban I suppose only my Corp members will get some free stuffz.
You were caught botting, plain & simple. You're not getting your stuff back. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
29
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:27:00 -
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Macroing and ruining the game for legit players you deserve the ban |

Eleanor Wish
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:28:00 -
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You'd have better luck convincing everyone of your innocence if you just stuck with "My cat did it." |

Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:28:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Never use VNC over pssssshhhhh tunnel, unless you're absolutely sure it has enough pssssssshhhhhh.
Darnit now I have to clean all the milk off my monitor...and my nose stings!
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid" - Ramona McCandless, Untitled Accepting donations for a Nestor (every 1 ISK counts) |

God Arthie
Steel and Strong
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:30:00 -
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It seams that not only CCP doens't read what I write. I've not used macroing tools nor bots, but to cease this discussion i think the best choice is to CLOSE this post(NOT to remove it). |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5566
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:34:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:It seams that not only CCP doens't read what I write. I've not used macroing tools nor bots, but to cease this discussion i think the best choice is to CLOSE this post(NOT to remove it).
If only every person caught botting or using macros hadn't already tried the "I didn't do it" excuse, then someone might actually believe you. Or not. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster Advent of Fate
149
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:34:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:The short version: I got banned for botting & CCP ignored me, don't give them money anymore.
It pretty much sounds like that. "This is nothing more than a rumor with no basis of fact. Hope that's enough of a confirmation for you guys. :)" Coolstorybro
http://sinisterspinster.enjin.com/ |

Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:34:00 -
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God Arthie wrote: -I've not used macroing tools nor bots -I'm a programmer, so I have and use many software that could be considered and used for macroing purposes(this software includes compilers, debuggers, unpackers, etc).
You confuse me bro...
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid" - Ramona McCandless, Untitled Accepting donations for a Nestor (every 1 ISK counts) |

Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
149
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:35:00 -
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God Arthie wrote: I'm a programmer, so I have and use many software that could be considered and used for macroing purposes(this software includes compilers, debuggers, unpackers, etc).
Compilers, debuggers AND unpackers? We've got a badass over here... Next you'll tell us you've also got interpreters and IDE's... Not that any of that is relevant to the topic at hand. Or related to marcoing. Unless you used said software to write a macrotool....? For science only, of course.
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
29
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:35:00 -
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You dont just get banned, ive never heard of anyone in any game get banned for legit playing, ccp know who bots and macros because therr is common things bots do |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23161
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:39:00 -
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Aw man. I just bought new popcorn, and now I'll immediately run out. And it was raining when I went to the store too.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Sodabro
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
742
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:40:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:The short version: I got banned for botting & CCP ignored me, don't give them money anymore. this world needs more tl;dr heroes like this guy here. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12255
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:47:00 -
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I actually expected to be reading a serious in-depth post as to why I shouldn't give CCP my money, I'm disappointed.
Although, it seems that you kept on giving CCP money though since you're here with what I assume is a new account, since you got yours banned over a month ago meaning this isn't a trial account any more.
Best of luck clearing your name though, but I'm afraid the general consensus for this type of matters is that if you had to take it to the forum to complain, you most likely did use some type of unwanted software.
/c
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Anize Oramara
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
190
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Posted - 2014.07.15 10:58:00 -
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I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.
whats the definition of hypocrisy again? |

Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1715
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Aw man. I just bought new popcorn, and now I'll immediately run out. And it was raining when I went to the store too.  I have some here.
it's bacon-flavoured popcorn. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Lachra
Union of Labor
88
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:07:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:Why you shouldn't pay for eve...

On a side note, you definitely know when someone's a hardcore programmer when they even call their fictional space characters "God". |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1275
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:09:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.
whats the definition of hypocrisy again? 'backing the argument that has the highest entertainment value' EVE Online: Death-o-meter |

Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
299
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Aw man. I just bought new popcorn, and now I'll immediately run out. And it was raining when I went to the store too.  This made me laugh. xD But not because of SchadenFreude. (: - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |

shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins The Kadeshi
11
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:12:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:You dont just get banned, ive never heard of anyone in any game get banned for legit playing, ccp know who bots and macros because therr is common things bots do
thats not entirely true i got banned once for paying my monthly fee to a corp
but got unbanned 2 days after
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23163
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:17:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.
whats the definition of hypocrisy again? Were they the same people and did they actually say any of that? What's the definition of strawman again?
Oh, and OP: why shouldn't I pay for EVE just because you were banned? There's a serious disconnect between subjects here. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:18:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.
whats the definition of hypocrisy again?
People that think CCP can't do anything right -----> that way ----->
<----- this way <------- for people that think CCP can do no wrong....
You there! In the fence, yeah, you, come here, I want to give you a hug.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |

Mikael Menethil
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:20:00 -
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What do you mean "the ban was for macroing"? Could you elaborate?
If you were the one pushing the buttons, there should be no issue with macroing.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=117249#post117249 |

UltraSplash
Ntak Inc.
9
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:27:00 -
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Eleanor Wish wrote:You'd have better luck convincing everyone of your innocence if you just stuck with "My cat did it."
Poor kitty |

God Arthie
Steel and Strong
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:32:00 -
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Yes, all the time I've played I "pushed" the buttons by myself, not with automated programs. One of my problems was getting banned(if CCP don't believe me and call me a liar, I'm partially ok with that) the other one is that support doesn't even read the ticket and post's generic answers after weeks of waiting. |

Steve Celeste
Overdogs
310
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:35:00 -
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Hey guys I am a programmer and have many software. |

Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
479
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:37:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:Hello.
First of all I'd like to tell that this post follows all the rules described in "Forum rules" and it is not intended to create any discussion about my ban's neither this post will include "private communications" (but if you ever receive them you will clearly understand how CCP works and how much it cares about their paying costumers).
Actually, you might be a bit wrong there... Here, let me help you out:
Quote:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
Quote:10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.
Quote:22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
with a hint of
Quote:32. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.
CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.
 1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279 |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5579
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:43:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:support doesn't even read the ticket and post's generic answers after weeks of waiting.
How do you know? Are you watching them do it with your botting software? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Marc Durant
42
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:47:00 -
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OP can always ask for a full and open investigation by a GM so we can verify his statements, generally that's a good way to clear any (unfounded) allegations.
Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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God Arthie
Steel and Strong
0
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:48:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:... ^-Sorry for not quoting totally.
3. I don't think that any of my posts are filled with anger, and if it looks like it than I'm sorry but that wasn't my intention. I've had a chance to talk with multiple eve support departments and the only one that I'm concerned about is the Eula one. 10. I wasn't really expecting so many trolls coming, and I wasn't expecting so much discussion about this, that's why i asked to close the discussion. 22. I think i've clarified myself and wasn't just randomly blaming CCP, i think my criticism is being done constructively(even if I didn't propose any solutions). 32. I'm still not Quitting Eve =) (unless CCP decides so). |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1871

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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:50:00 -
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God Arthie wrote:Hope any GM reading this post reads it to the end and checks that all rules were followed. I am not a GM, but then again, it's not the GM's that moderate the EvE forum, ISD's CCL division does. I read your post in full and as Captain of CCL I don't have to check the rules to see if you broke one or multiple of them, I know you did.
Thread locked.
The Rules: 10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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