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Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:14:00 -
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A couple of incompetent Nimrods war decced my alliance about a week ago. In order to maintain the cash flow, we moved somewhere where I didn't think they have the cojs to follow.
I'm not worried about us. In 27 war decs we have lost two ships and one pod. What I would like to know is if this tactic has worked against this particular group.
But I can't find a killboard that shows their losses for this past week. Am I looking for the wrong thing? Should I be looking for their alliance instead? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12261
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:21:00 -
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You could also try check their war history in-game and the result of those wars.
/c
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:22:00 -
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Are you looking at the right killboard(s)? Can you find losses from earlier periods? Are you sure they've had any losses that would be reported during this week (and if so, by what party)?
No killboard I know of makes any distinction between corp and alliance in terms of what you can search for GÇö if it's reported, it'll be credited to all people and parties involved. So it sounds more like they haven't had any reported losses (and the GÇ£reportedGÇ¥ is the important part: if neither party feeds their API to the killboards, only manually posted kills will appear and some will conveniently GÇ£forgetGÇ¥ to post losses).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
479
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:26:00 -
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I don't know if you know about this site: http://evewho.com/
You can search for: - players - corporations - alliances
Very useful for wardecs. 1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279 |

Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
32
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:27:00 -
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Chribba wrote:You could also try check their war history in-game and the result of those wars.
/c
Dammit. I guess I'll have to lear how to do that. The learning ends.
BTW, You run BattleClinic, don't you? I used to use that but it just locks up on me now. What browser is recommended?
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Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
32
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:28:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:I don't know if you know about this site: http://evewho.com/You can search for: - players - corporations - alliances Very useful for wardecs.
Didn't think of that. TYVM. :) |

Sodabro
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
745
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:45:00 -
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Quote:incompetent nimrods
ALL THE WARDECS! |

Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:49:00 -
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Sodabro wrote:Quote:incompetent nimrods ALL THE WARDECS!
We've never war decced anyone. Never felt the need.
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Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:53:00 -
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What you guys suggested worked great. EveWho took me to zKill, there they were.
Not sure how to interpret the results, though. They' lost 4 ships since the war dec but none in the two pipes. Did they decide not to follow? The 4 losses were nowhere near us. ?? |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3600
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:57:00 -
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yeah zkill/eve-kill've been more popular than battleclinic for a few years now
chribba doesn't run battleclinic |

Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:59:00 -
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Sorry.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3600
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Posted - 2014.07.15 12:01:00 -
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well as long as you're really sorry i can forgive you in exchange for a moderate donation |

Bexar Ying
Unit 479 Veerhouven Group Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.07.15 12:05:00 -
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It's on the way. :)
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CompleteFailure
Killian Industries
170
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:05:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:What you guys suggested worked great. EveWho took me to zKill, there they were.
Not sure how to interpret the results, though. They' lost 4 ships since the war dec but none in the two pipes. Did they decide not to follow? The 4 losses were nowhere near us. ??
You're operating under the assumption that the fact that they war decced you means that you are their only focus. TBH they probably have several wardecs going on at once (if not dozens) and are concentrating on the easier to find targets. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2675
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:37:00 -
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When I wardeced, I wardeced for *reasons* and would fly 30j to kill a Venture. So just that they don't have any killboard activity near your chosen system is not an indication that they won't find you and kill you. It is easy enough to find out where your targets are and set up traps for them.
Even "incompetent nimrods" can kill virtually any PVE fit ship with virtually any PVP fit ship. I'm not logged in right now so I can't tell, but if any of your attackers are named "Cannibal Kane", then I pitty you. If we're not supposed to shoot pods in hisec, why are they filled with meat? |

SghnDubh
BattleClinic
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:34:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:Chribba wrote:You could also try check their war history in-game and the result of those wars.
/c Dammit. I guess I'll have to lear how to do that. The learning ends. BTW, You run BattleClinic, don't you? I used to use that but it just locks up on me now. What browser is recommended?
Chribba is awesome, but my team and I run BattleClinic.
If you're having problems with the site, just ping me or post there and a dev will help you.
And contrary to some in this thread, Zkill and BC serve the community rather equally. Our boards cater to different user preferences and track / show stats differently.
OP, If you're having problems locating their pilots on a KB, then they could be taking steps to keep their kills from showing, as has been suggested. It's harder to keep their losses from showing because they don't have control over those killmails.
The major killboards are API-only, or only allow CREST posts, so "faking" mails by manually manipulating the text then pasting the text into a killboard is no longer as big of a problem. But CREST especially is fairly new, and maybe they haven't been as active recently; in that case, it's possible that people who get killmails against them haven't posted via CREST. Or, perhaps most of the people that win fights against them don't know about killboards and thus don't post their APIs which would pick up those kills.
Hope that helps a bit...
Killboard, Loadouts, PLEX and EVEMon at BattleClinic |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15347
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:41:00 -
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I cant be the only person who believed that Op was decced by a group called "incompetent nimrods". That totally sounds like a corp in Eve.
Someone should take that name. Evewho says its available. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Jeremy Fischer1
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
1
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Posted - 2014.07.16 09:34:00 -
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Move to nullsec, why you in hisec? |

Victor Andall
610
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Posted - 2014.07.16 10:11:00 -
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WHY IS THIS THREAD BEING HELPFUL?!
Geez, GD! Step up your game. You didn't even send OP back to WoW or anything... I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |

Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
308
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Posted - 2014.07.16 10:49:00 -
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Makes no sense. She calls them incompetent, as if it was something to be proud of to run away.
Yeah maybe Cannibal Kane should teach them a lesson or two.
I'm willing to add money to that, too! - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |

Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
4087
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:20:00 -
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I heard my name...
Funny how people post these threads about they never see their targets. Then suddenly 10 wars. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15378
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:31:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I heard my name...
Funny how people post these threads about they never see their targets. Then suddenly 10 wars.
That almost never happens always. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2584
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:45:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I heard my name...
Funny how people post these threads about they never see their targets. Then suddenly 10 wars.
It's the same way with my kids. They never understand that when you're ahead, you don't gloat - your tighten your chin strap and stay the **** off the radar.
On a related note, my children all know to never utter the words I'm bored in the house where I can hear them. I always have something that needs doing - lawn to mow, garden to weed, a deck to power wash.... MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
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