So when someone says "ccp aren't adding any new content" do you think they mean that ccp aren't adding new people to the game?

So, content in EVE is every form of interaction between humans.

You mean quests and dungeons?

Last year I started a thread for this: 4/6 LFM Angel Extravaganza L4, need a healer

It's hard to solo some "content" here, you know...

(sarcasm off)*

* It's being a pain the need to warn about it on EVE forums nowadays, pretty disappointing.

And here was me thinking that we could just call that a player interaction.

Why are we trying to redefine things that already have definitions? The confusion comes from people like this who misconstrue what others are trying to say.

Player interaction IS the content this game is all about.

Maybe you too need to get "life" first and realize that as soon
as you interact with someone, "life" provides you content.

Nowadays it's much more complicated though. People consider watching TV
as content. It's consumption. That's the root of the issue, btw.

People in our oversaturated societies are used to consume content so much,
they forgot that "interaction" is the actual content that makes things happen.

Exactly. CCP not creating a enough content is a personal opinion and we all know what is meant when people say that. They want new features, missions, ships, etc... "create your own content" is not a valid suggestion for someone who feels like this.

If interactions are not interactions but instead, content. Then what do you call stuff like ships and game mechanics that were traditionally considered game content?

Content: the things that are held or included in something

LFG is something CCP expermented with in incursions. Was it successful? Is it content as Tippia defines in the themepark manner and if so should there be more or less of it? Given that some of it is afk by this point too..

LFG is something CCP experimented with in incursions. Was it successful? Is it content as Tippia defines in the themepark manner and if so should there be more or less of it? Given that some of it is afk by this point too..

Meh. If that answer isn't valid, then neither is their complaint. Whether they engage in it or not, wilfully ignoring the content being created isGǪ wellGǪ ignorant, and gets the kind of answer it deserves.

Actually, we do both. That's the whole point of the concept.
They have created some minute content that we can interact with. They have also created a large box of tools. We can use those tools to create our own content. Other players then interact with the content we create.

If you think that only the stuff created by CCP counts as content, you have a very narrow GÇö to the point of entirely inaccurate GÇö view of what content actually is. The funny part is that you got it reasonably right at first: content is GÇ£stuff to do.GÇ¥ Contrary to your belief, CCP are not the only ones who can create that. Hell, a lot of the EVE content does not even exist within EVE the game.

Its past time to add something new to shoot. Add new incursion sites. Add new missions. Throw Syndicate into disarray because of some turmoil within Serpentis and let us interact with an NPC war there or something. Even the same old rats in different numbers would be entertaining. Do something.

You mean to tell me that in a game with thousands of ships and items, you've done 'everything'. I highly doubt that.

Other than third party development and out of game websites, players do not create content, they interact with the content provided by the developer.

I don't think there was the merest suggestion of that. Just because there is something you haven't tried, doesn't mean that you will get hours of entertainment out of it.

I'm bored of eve and i know trying my hand at hauling won't do anything to change that

I don't think there was the merest suggestion of that. Just because there is something you haven't tried, doesn't mean that you will get hours of entertainment out of it.

I'm bored of eve and i know trying my hand at hauling won't do anything to change that

I don't think there was the merest suggestion of that. Just because there is something you haven't tried, doesn't mean that you will get hours of entertainment out of it.

I'm bored of eve and i know trying my hand at hauling won't do anything to change that

That has more to do with you being bored than anything else. It's been 7 years for me and I'm still finding new things to do (who knew freaking booster production paid like this lol, obviously not me, and raiding going to null cosmos areas is...interesting).

You mean to tell me that in a game with thousands of ships and items, you've done 'everything'. I highly doubt that.

Anything listed in a 'content list' will revolve around some tool (market, ships, sovereignty modules, npc's) that CCP has coded into the game. You using these tools is supposedly creating content. At what point does you interacting with something become creation of content?

Take faction warfare for example.

So in theory, yes players create the content in this game. But in reality nothing changes unless CCP adds or changes the mechanics that govern this game.

Its past time to add something new to shoot. Add new incursion sites. Add new missions. Throw Syndicate into disarray because of some turmoil within Serpentis and let us interact with an NPC war there or something. Even the same old rats in different numbers would be entertaining. Do something.

PvP is non developer created content.

So when someone says "ccp aren't adding any new content" do you think they mean that ccp aren't adding new people to the game?

I don't even know what we're talking about here.

I learned late last year not to have a discussion with you because you will twist into something about the way society is these days and derail a thread faster than Kanye with a microphone.

PvP is non developer created content.

PVP is not content, it is an interaction between players.

I learned late last year not to have a discussion with you because you will twist into something about the way society is these days and derail a thread faster than Kanye with a microphone.

And interaction is content, no matter how hard you try not to understand this.

GǪI can't help noticing that all you're talking about here is NPC interaction. See my comment above regarding that kind narrow themepark view on GǣcontentGǥ.