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Kodiak31415
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:50:00 -
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As of right now I am running lvl 3 kill missions in my Ferox and frankly, they've been growing boring. My shield rarley drops below %75. And thats with a gimped passive tank that dosent use Shield power relays
Recently I've been contemplating the move to lvl 4 missions and am wondering if I'll be able to do them in my Ferox. I still have some skills that need traning (BC to lvl 4 for the extra resists, shield mangement to 5 to boost shield hp to the 11,500 mark.
I truly have no idea how well this will work (never even tried a lvl 4) am I insane? am I going to die? am I going to start a revolution in lvl 4 missions running them with something other than a bs?
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Drew Blaze
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:07:00 -
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You wont get very far at all in a Ferox. To be able to solo lvl 4's takes a skilled pilot and a HAC or BS. I solo all my lvl 4's in a Rattlesnake which is the 'Easy' button for lvl 4's.
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Gustavef
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:57:00 -
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I have thought about it, but when I recall the jump from level 1 to level 2, and then the jump from level 2 to level 3, I don't realy think that there are many level 4s that I could do in my current set up (which is very similar to yours)
Even when I first got my Ferox, it took a while before it was "easy." Individually, I don't think it would be a problem. It is just that there are so many targets in the missions, that you realy need to destroy them fast.
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Father Weebles
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Posted - 2006.06.30 21:23:00 -
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The jump from lvl3s to lvl4 is really big, and shouldnt try anything like a bc till u know what youre doing..just my 2 cents
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Kodiak31415
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Posted - 2006.06.30 21:24:00 -
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Just did the first 3 parts of angel extravaganza lvl 4 in my 'rox.
While my tank was never in any real danger of breaking (got down to 50% shield once), my dps kida blew chunks. I was able to kill everything it's just that the BS took something like 5-10 minutes to bring down. I think I'll wait on lvl 4 missions untill I get my nighthawk which will be a while....
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Caldorous
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Posted - 2006.06.30 21:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Kodiak31415
Just did the first 3 parts of angel extravaganza lvl 4 in my 'rox.
While my tank was never in any real danger of breaking (got down to 50% shield once), my dps kida blew chunks. I was able to kill everything it's just that the BS took something like 5-10 minutes to bring down. I think I'll wait on lvl 4 missions untill I get my nighthawk which will be a while....
try again in a raven, u dont have to wait until the command ship (or the hac which is on the way)
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Mortelli
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Posted - 2006.07.01 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kodiak31415
Just did the first 3 parts of angel extravaganza lvl 4 in my 'rox.
While my tank was never in any real danger of breaking (got down to 50% shield once), my dps kida blew chunks. I was able to kill everything it's just that the BS took something like 5-10 minutes to bring down. I think I'll wait on lvl 4 missions untill I get my nighthawk which will be a while....
You've found the limiting factor. It's not the inability to tank in a L4 mission. It's simply that it takes too long to bring down a battleship. Some of the harder ones will take longer than 10 minutes.
Having said that, I've found that if you've got a nearby mission AND instas, it is much quicker to use a Ferox to clear out the small stuff and then come back with a Raven to polish off the larger targets. Some of the L4 missions have an absolute buttload of frigates & cruisers. Also, you don't have to worry about aggro'n everything with your drones by using the Ferox.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.07.01 04:58:00 -
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As long as you are fighting angels its easy to tank lvl 4s most wont require warp outs.
I found that using T2 heavies worked well and the missions were still hugely profitable. Although you still wont come close to killing the boss in Vengence.
I havent run any missions lately but when I do again Im going to try a passive tanked rail Ferox with T2 rails.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.07.01 08:16:00 -
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Not having done lvl4's in a Ferox (but plenty of PvP/Lvl3), I can only offer this:
I suspect that a Ferox can be setup to tank lvl4's. It has enough cap and shielding to fit a healthy active tank along with it's natural resists.
However, you'd have to devote a good portion of your setup towards the tank. Meaning your damage potential will be almost non-existant.
Ferox's make pretty good 2nd-pilot ships in lvl4's though.
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:53:00 -
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You'll run in to npc's in level 4's that simply cannot be broken by a Ferox. The 400k, 500k, even the 700k battleships are one thing. I don't see any way you'll break one of the 2 or 2.5 million isk bounty npc's without large weapons, or at the very least, a ship that has a built in damage bonus.
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Khyle
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Khyle on 01/07/2006 15:29:58
I did lvl4 in an assault frig for some time out of boredom  .
The problem is as already stated the same for the ferox, the npc BSs take ages, and sooner or later youll run into one whose tank is above your capabilities.
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Presidente Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 14/10/2006 11:11:41
I run l4's with a t1/t2 fitted BRUTIX and some good Gunnery, Drones, Electronics, Nav, Mechanics Skills.
I accomplished harder ones like Serpentis Extravaganza but not the very hard ones like Worlds Collide oder Mordus, of course.
Needs mid/close range combat tactics and medium drones support is a must.
I am looking forward to the limits ;-)
Presidente
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.10.14 17:04:00 -
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I used to run all the Angel missions in a T2 fitted Ferox. It worked but it wasnt fast. The missions are harder now so I think you could still run some of them but its really to much work for the reward.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Gorjer
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Posted - 2006.10.14 18:53:00 -
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yeah i know what you mean about the easy tanking, little damage on the extravaganza. Im doing them in a Zealot, so count yourself lucky, there resistances to are the worst, even if i got highlt trained tech 2's with 2 damage mods, it can take me up to 5 mins to kill a bs....
Just load up on explosive and u should be able to do enough damge... or just train for a cerebus... wish i had :P
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Elviminie
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Posted - 2006.10.14 19:38:00 -
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Are there any level 4 missions worth doing in a Ferox instead of a Raven?
I've just had 4 Drone missions in a row, and next time I am thinking it might be quicker in the Ferox 
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Angelic Resolution
The Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.10.15 13:57:00 -
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Tanking it will be no problems.. dealing out enough damage to actively kill a battleship in decent time.. undo-able without T2 furies and really good drone skills IMO.
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MuffinsRevenger
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Posted - 2006.10.16 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Elviminie
Are there any level 4 missions worth doing in a Ferox instead of a Raven?
I've just had 4 Drone missions in a row, and next time I am thinking it might be quicker in the Ferox
I do infiltrated outposts in my zealot, it's about twice as fast as the raven.
It's even possible to fairly simply optimize your killing patern to make looting easyer
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.16 13:27:00 -
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Ferox lacks punch in lvl 4s but makes up for it by being the best tanker in game for Kinetic or explosive damage.
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