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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2014.07.17 17:41:00 -
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The problem with using rules for this kind of purpose is that the system then becomes a series of exceptions, which requires heavy policing. That being said, we are currently developing some little extras that are going to do some of the policing for us! No details yet, but maybe when Lebowski and Masterplan are back from vacation.
As to your gate theory. We have discussed using gates for this purpose before, and indeed I think it was tried out in the past (before my time though so can't say for sure), but we found the solution to be inelegant due to the increased need for policing. If this automated solution bears fruit, it could very much be on the table again. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:04:00 -
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OMEGA REDUX wrote:Instead of using acceleration gates (since they have the drawback of not being able to warp in at range) you could have the filter in place for anyone using the system gates (star gates?) to enter EZA-FM. To prevent someone from using a capital to bring officer mods into EZA-FM you could cyno block the system using code similiar to the pos module or code similar to the cyno blocking for incursions. This would automatically prevent any capital usage in those systems as well thus eliminating the need to police the no caps in those systems rule.
For fighting on stations/gates you could make the station/gate guns act like concord and instakill anyone doing any aggressive action on those grids.
That's too much coding and too many special exceptions. First and foremost Sisi must be a test environment. Live EFT is very much a secondary/tertiary level use case. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2014.07.22 09:38:00 -
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OMEGA REDUX wrote:AFAIK concord is still enabled in Sisi highsec so live EFT as you put it is already in the game. Go to any highsec system, fit ship you wish to test, undock, fire 1 volley at the station (attacking the station does trigger concord right?...maybe i should go test that haha!), watch concord blap you, get live EFT results from the loss mail.
To anyone following the rules the measures I suggested are already "in place" since those people would not even attempt to light a cyno in PVH8-0 nor attempt to attack anyone on the stations/gates. These measures simply provide actual unbreakable rules to the rules you already said no one should break but they totally can and apparently aren't receiving any punishment for doing so. I don't understand how that is in any way making any part of Sisi something other than a test environment since those following the rules would not be doing anything different.
Also we did just go over how since you are not a coder you have no idea how much coding it would take to do that (thou I will admit the station/gate gun thing might get measy since IDK how yall wrote the aggression mechanic code...but since you aren't a coder neither do you know how measy or not measy it would be to do so)
I undeleted your post because I don't believe you were trying to be malicious, but please do ensure that you write in as friendly a tone as possible as other mods might not be so willing to interpret your text 
I can't code, but I understand it having worked with it for 3 years, and have a very good idea of how long certain things will take (primarily because we've discussed them internally at one point or other - we do try to come up with ideas too!) I talk to the guys currently working on the dogma rewrite every day, and am fully aware of the complexities and pitfalls of anything to do with sentry guns.
Live EFT is fine, it's just not the primary use case of Sisi, and the prime directive (testing features, not fits) cannot be violated!
To your other suggestions. Making a system cynojammed is something we can do, for instance. We are also currently considering attaching the "QA ECM Burst" effect to stations and gates, to make these less of a preferred combat hotspot. If people chose to use smartbombs or an equivalent untargeted system, they would be few in number and easy to ban.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2014.07.22 16:24:00 -
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OK guy, I was just trying to help... Thread locked. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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