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Malrikk
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.18 17:41:00 -
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Just stumbled upon a new SciFi MMO being created called Event Horizon, now I know it's actually quite the meme, especially in regards to World of Warcraft, but let's face it, eventually game killers are released!
http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/ It happened to UO, it happened to EQ, it will happen to wow, and it will happen to Eve.
If this thing actually makes it out the gate, how do you feel it will effect Eve? |

Subwalady
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.07.18 17:43:00 -
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Malrikk wrote:Just stumbled upon a new SciFi MMO being created called Event Horizon, now I know it's actually quite the meme, especially in regards to World of Warcraft, but let's face it, eventually game killers are released! http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/ It happened to UO, it happened to EQ, it will happen to wow, and it will happen to Eve. If this thing actually makes it out the gate, how do you feel it will effect Eve?
It looks like it could be a solid MMO, but by the looks of it, it's only in the crowdfunding stage on... Indiegogo?
While I am curious about it, I think Eve has some time lol
edit: and honestly... who here doesn't want to see wow fall  |

Neesa Corrinne
Binary Systems Industries
36
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Posted - 2014.07.18 17:54:00 -
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Subwalady wrote:edit: and honestly... who here doesn't want to see wow fall 
Uhhhh, me. WoW expertly fills a market demand for a low personal requirement, variable participation, shallow learning curve game. If WoW actually does fail it would be like Coke or Pepsi going out of business; there would be a systemic underlying problem with the entire industry.
WoW serves a lot of purposes within the MMO gaming space and honestly I could write a thesis paper about the topic, but needless to say I hope it stays around for a long time.
Back to the OP: The reason EVE will never die is due to one very strong word: Investment. Playing EVE requires an investment in time, energy and ISK. People who have played for a few years will be extremely leery of dropping all that investment to go do something else.
That's my situation. I've quit EVE several times just to realize a couple months later how much time and investment I've put into my characters and then I find an excuse to come back in order not to squander the last 9 nine years of skill training and ISK earning.
People will hear about it and try it out, like they did with Perpetuum, but then they'll be back in New Eden before long. |

Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
4099
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Posted - 2014.07.18 17:57:00 -
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That game looks like it missed its original release date of 1993. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
999
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Posted - 2014.07.18 17:57:00 -
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EVE IS DYING!! QUICK LIQUIDATE YOUR ASSETS, SELL YOUR SUPERS, GUVE ME YOUR STUFF!!! |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2940
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:01:00 -
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It's a glorified pitch, a step up from a concept. I'll raise an eyebrow if it sees a full release.
Imo the only thing that could kill eve is ccp, which they might do, they might not, but I don't see it being killed by another mmo. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1978
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:01:00 -
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The future flop that is Star Citizen will kill Kickstarter and any other attempts at a Space MMO.
EvE will live forever by default. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2940
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:02:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:It's a glorified pitch, a step up from a concept. I'll raise an eyebrow if it sees a full release.
Imo the only thing that could kill eve is ccp, which they might do, they might not, but I don't see it being killed by another mmo.
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus Universal Consortium
81
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:02:00 -
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All I saw when i read that site was Eve Copy Eve Copy
So its eve with WiS
Epic...oh wait |

Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
97
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:04:00 -
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Right now it is an incomplete web site of very basic design, Id hardly be sweating it if I were CCP  |

Subwalady
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:06:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:It's a glorified pitch, a step up from a concept. I'll raise an eyebrow if it sees a full release.
That's what we call progress dear. |

Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
97
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:08:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:forum derp, nothing to see here.
Apparently unfunded, check out the hiring page.
Also read the FAQ.
Overall it looks like 3 butt hurt EVE WiS players who created a web page.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
644
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:21:00 -
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EVE Killer?
There are around 300,000 of them.
You are talking to some of them right now. |

epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
836
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:25:00 -
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Eve will never die.
There is an old old saying, "old soldiers never die, they merely fade away"
Eve will either in some way retain it's youth, and learn how to encourage people to have fun, or will simply fade, until one day someone says to you, "didn't you use to play eve! That was cool " There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2032
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:39:00 -
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Will "Event Horizon" have a JUKE BOX ??? 
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1978
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:44:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Will "Event Horizon" have a JUKE BOX ??? 
I doubt they'll get beyond http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/uploads/2/9/4/5/29454815/1246715.png ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2940
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:49:00 -
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After looking over the site "well screw you guys! I'll croud source my own mmo.....with blackjack.....and hookers walking in stations!"
I would rather help crowd fund that potato salad. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5596
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Posted - 2014.07.18 18:52:00 -
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OP wrote:Event Horizon, the Eve killer?
EVE killer? I doubt it.
EVE alternative? I can see that.
Not being one of the fearful fanbois sitting in a corner muttering, "Only EVE, only EVE", over and over, I look forward to any potential space game release. Yes, they may be vaporware right now, but one can always hope.
It's a big big world folks and less than half a million of us play this game. That leaves A pool of six billion or so to play another space game without having any effect on this one. So you can stop attacking any idea that's not EVE. You'll still get to play your game no matter how many other games in the same genre are produced.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4161
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:03:00 -
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Thing is though, Eve has been dying since day 1... and it's still here. Let's face it, Eve is just badass. |

Samuel Triptee
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
38
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:07:00 -
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The world is full of EVE killers. Believe it or not, real life is still better than any and all video games.. including EVE... there I said it... You all can give me the virtual flogging I know is coming...
CHEERS! |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
437
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:12:00 -
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Someone already said this but this is so true,
CCP will be what killed Eve Online. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Subwalady
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:26:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:Someone already said this but this is so true,
CCP will be what killed Eve Online.
It's not about a product just being shut down. The problem lies in the MMO genre being infected with stagnation, I mean look at Star Wars, Wildstar, Elder Scrolls and all the other ones out there, they're all clones!
If this thing launches, and holds true to their philosophy and can actually make some of these new things like player police, player created content...and players voting on punishments? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! It's amazing! |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2941
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:29:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:Someone already said this but this is so true,
CCP will be what killed Eve Online. I will say that my point was not that they will, more they would have to fundamentaly **** up on an extremely pervasive level to kill eve , I don't see anything short of that or dinsdale getting his way actually making much of a dent. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Kijimea
Mulors
8
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:30:00 -
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ultima online hurray |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
573
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:34:00 -
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Malrikk wrote:Just stumbled upon a new SciFi MMO being created called Event Horizon, now I know it's actually quite the meme, especially in regards to World of Warcraft, but let's face it, eventually game killers are released! http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/ It happened to UO, it happened to EQ
Sony must be wasting their time and money on EQ Next and Landmark then? |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15449
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:36:00 -
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Im still waiting for Hangar Offline / P2W Fishtank / How Do I Dogfight the Module Online to kill Eve.
This MMO will just have to get in line. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Yokai Mitsuhide
0uter Ring Excavations
5200
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:38:00 -
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Malrikk wrote:how do you feel it will effect Eve?
It won't. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2941
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:40:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Malrikk wrote:how do you feel it will effect Eve? It won't. Needs to be an "it" first. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
713
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:45:00 -
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Lets see...
Black Phrophacy (dead) STO (went FTP in a month) SWTOR (Went FTP in a month), JGE (dead in the cradle)...
No, i'm sorry, nothing will 'kill eve' except ccp or us.
The pretty looking pryimid scheme wont kill eve, nor will this one.
However, competition is a good thing. So bring it In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
810
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Posted - 2014.07.18 19:52:00 -
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Seriously, from taking a look at that mediocre website, that game looks more like a poor attempt at an EVE clone than a serious attempt at an EVE killer. Just look at the FAQ, half of those questions would be perfectly describing EVE Online  My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Yokai Mitsuhide
0uter Ring Excavations
5200
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Posted - 2014.07.18 20:10:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Malrikk wrote:how do you feel it will effect Eve? It won't. Needs to be an "it" first.
It don't. |

Subwalady
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:21:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Malrikk wrote:how do you feel it will effect Eve? It won't. Needs to be an "it" first.
Indie projects have to start out somewhere. |

Malrikk
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:27:00 -
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Subwalady wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Malrikk wrote:how do you feel it will effect Eve? It won't. Needs to be an "it" first. Indie projects have to start out somewhere.
Well proper funding can fix a lot of things, IMO as long as the vision is great, the funding will create the vision. I'll support the project for sure, it's just bringing too many new things to the genre, and that's what the industry really needs. Unfortunately I have to wait till pay day, but I'm all in on this one. |

Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
154
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Posted - 2014.07.18 21:33:00 -
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Reading FAQs and ran across this:
Quote:Event Horizon is a sandbox MMO which means you are free to do whatever you want, however, in order to combat griefing we will be taking steps to dissuade unsanctioned combat within secure space.
Stopped reading at that point. No point in looking further cause EvE will still be here. Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |

Malrikk
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:07:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Reading FAQs and ran across this: Quote:Event Horizon is a sandbox MMO which means you are free to do whatever you want, however, in order to combat griefing we will be taking steps to dissuade unsanctioned combat within secure space. Stopped reading at that point. .
Stopped reading right here, because obviously anything else you say doesn't matter either.
See how that works?
Ontopic I can't really disagree with that, there's too many douches on the internet that would literally camp starting zones, and the game would be dead on arrival. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23203
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:13:00 -
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Indiegogo flexible funding?
Yeah, I think I'll go to Jita and sell a PLEX to contracts GÇö apparently someone is buying them for 1.2bn a pop. Then I'll take that money and get it doubled. That seems like a much better and reliable way of getting some return on my investmentGǪ  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
499
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:21:00 -
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Malrikk wrote:Just stumbled upon a new SciFi MMO being created called Event Horizon, now I know it's actually quite the meme, especially in regards to World of Warcraft, but let's face it, eventually game killers are released! http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/ It happened to UO, it happened to EQ, it will happen to wow, and it will happen to Eve. If this thing actually makes it out the gate, how do you feel it will effect Eve?
OK. Let's start this.
First of all, I don't see any MMO on that page. I see a badly designed web page that's screaming 1990's all over the place (with a big beveled button on top and everything). There are so many great looking free Wordpress themes out there that having a page this bad does not have an excuse whatsoever.
Contact information on "Privacy policy page" says that the location of the business is in a rental apartment. I mean, come on... I live in Serbia where the government takes 78% (well, 78,5% to be more accurate) of whatever you earn and I still have enough to have a proper office as a self employed programmer.
Concept art of that ship seems to be made in Gimp or Fireworks. And it's called "Scimitar" (?) That's funny, because IndieGogo campaign for the concept started today and the first "devblog" was published yesterday and you can already see it in GD of EVE online. Judging by the description and what can be read now on that site, I can bet that whoever created the page is EVE player and there is a possibility that it's the OP (but that one I can't guarantee). I mean, come on... since the first introductory devblog is one day old and Google search for "event horizon online" lists links to online movie services where you can watch "Event Horizon" movie online, there's no way anyone got there randomly through a search engine.
Note to whoever created that page, because there is a possibility you are reading this: - Wordpress is your friend even if it's just used for concept presentation; - Responsive design is a standard for 21st century. You want your idea to be read and shared on all devices, not just computer screens; - Twitter Bootstrap or Foundation CSS are your friends; - Don't claim that you can support Oculus Rift when you don't even have offices or developers yet. - As a business owner seeking for investors, you or your company are not listed on LinkedIn. In factf fact, neither the owner or the company is listed on the official Tampa, FL company registry;
EVE killer? Hardly. You can get more concepts for a game from EVE's "Features & Ideas" forum, slap it on a Wordpress page, start a crowdfunding campaign and you are (apparently) good to go. 1 bil-30 days-5% loan available - collateral required: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352279 |

Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1733
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:25:00 -
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wait, it's not a game about Sam Neil and a ship that warps to hell and back?
If not, then FU. The game will suck. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Puppy Eating
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:36:00 -
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Malrikk wrote:it happened to EQ
What happened to EQ?
Should I be worried about my characters that I left logged in?
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1904

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Posted - 2014.07.18 22:45:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Out of Pod Experience. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
718
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Posted - 2014.07.18 23:00:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Malrikk wrote:Just stumbled upon a new SciFi MMO being created called Event Horizon, now I know it's actually quite the meme, especially in regards to World of Warcraft, but let's face it, eventually game killers are released! http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/ It happened to UO, it happened to EQ, it will happen to wow, and it will happen to Eve. If this thing actually makes it out the gate, how do you feel it will effect Eve? OK. Let's start this. First of all, I don't see any MMO on that page. I see a badly designed web page that's screaming 1990's all over the place (with a big beveled button on top and everything). There are so many great looking free Wordpress themes out there that having a page this bad does not have an excuse whatsoever. Contact information on "Privacy policy page" says that the location of the business is in a rental apartment. I mean, come on... I live in Serbia where the government takes 78% (well, 78,5% to be more accurate) of whatever you earn and I still have enough to have a proper office as a self employed programmer. Concept art of that ship seems to be made in Gimp or Fireworks. And it's called "Scimitar" (?) That's funny, because IndieGogo campaign for the concept started today and the first "devblog" was published yesterday and you can already see it in GD of EVE online. Judging by the description and what can be read now on that site, I can bet that whoever created the page is EVE player and there is a possibility that it's the OP (but that one I can't guarantee). I mean, come on... since the first introductory devblog is one day old and Google search for "event horizon online" lists links to online movie services where you can watch "Event Horizon" movie online, there's no way anyone got there randomly through a search engine. Note to whoever created that page, because there is a possibility you are reading this: - Wordpress is your friend even if it's just used for concept presentation; - Responsive design is a standard for 21st century. You want your idea to be read and shared on all devices, not just computer screens; - Twitter Bootstrap or Foundation CSS are your friends; - Don't claim that you can support Oculus Rift when you don't even have offices or developers yet. - As a business owner seeking for investors, you or your company are not listed on LinkedIn. In fact, neither the owner or the company is listed on the official Tampa, FL company registry; - Never ever write "I" or in first person unless you are working on a personal project; EVE killer? Hardly. You can get more concepts for a game from EVE's "Features & Ideas" forum, slap it on a Wordpress page, start a crowdfunding campaign and you are (apparently) good to go.
This, even my dead website I sat on for 10 bloody years has a random wordpress theme, I got tired of sitting on a dead website. Site looks like its right out of the 90's and was very hard at a glance to decipher anything. Will not support, but good luck anyway to the game makers. (note I would not support the pyramid scheme either, so its not just you) In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1132
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Posted - 2014.07.18 23:40:00 -
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>New MMO >Indiegogo
HAHAHA.
Best of luck kids. |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
3261
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Posted - 2014.07.19 00:32:00 -
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If you looked at the EVE trailer, not knowing it's EVE.. wouldn't you think that it's an EVE killer?
I think concepts of games are a wonderful creative exercise, but it's the actual game itself available for download and ready to play by tens of thousands of people simultaneously that says anything definitive. .. when everything else is gone .. |

Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
662
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Posted - 2014.07.19 01:09:00 -
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Event Horizon... No.
Elite: Dangerous? Yes. Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |

Commissar Kate
Team Evil
65231
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Posted - 2014.07.19 01:21:00 -
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meh, until there is another non joystick based spaceship game I'm not sold. People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
253
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Posted - 2014.07.19 06:59:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Eve will never die.
There is an old old saying, "old soldiers never die, they merely fade away"
Eve will either in some way retain it's youth, and learn how to encourage people to have fun, or will simply fade, until one day someone says to you, "didn't you use to play eve! That was cool "and discover that it is still going, run out of a bomb shelter, behind the fish warehouse.
(...)
You'd need a pretty damn large bomb shelter to house Tranquility. I wonder what's the bare minimum size for the Tranquility cluster to be functional, but likely is larger than Ultima Online's "run your UO server on any PC you've owned since 2001". Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2014.07.19 16:10:00 -
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Malrikk wrote:Just stumbled upon a new SciFi MMO being created called Event Horizon, now I know it's actually quite the meme, especially in regards to World of Warcraft, but let's face it, eventually game killers are released! http://www.eventhorizon-online.com/ It happened to UO, it happened to EQ, it will happen to wow, and it will happen to Eve. If this thing actually makes it out the gate, how do you feel it will effect Eve?
I just visited the site.
Wow. Some people really don't have a sense of shame. Or about their actual skills. Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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