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Tystoo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.22 17:17:00 -
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So i tried out the new industry stuff and forgot to read the job cost for a 0->10 ME job on a bastion module i blueprint, it was a wopping  133 million isk for just 26.5 days.
Something I did notice when submitting some other jobs where an in crease in cost for different types of blueprints
0->8ME cruiser (Rupture) costs 32 million (15days 17 hour)
0->9 ME destroyer (Thasher) costs 6.4 million (28 days)
0->9 ME frigate (Slasher) costs 2.7 million (18 days 16 hours)
One more, the price for a ME research on the same kind of blue print differ, 0->10 ME job for 4 different cruise missile blueprints have the same time till completion (6day 15 hours) but the costs are different (2030 isk for inferno, 5420 isk mjolnir, 1714 isk nova and 2790 isk scourge).
This all in npc station with max system cost index (full red bar).
Don't know what this update was supposed to do but the above kinda surprised me, the new gui is nice though
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.07.22 17:36:00 -
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Pre-Crius perfect wasn't even possible on many BPO, especially anything larger than a frigate.
If you are researching everything to ME 10%, you are STILL researching too much. |
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.22 17:47:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Pre-Crius perfect wasn't even possible on many BPO, especially anything larger than a frigate.
If you are researching everything to ME 10%, you are STILL researching too much.
So you are saying researching a bs bpo in 40 days to ME10 to have now ME10, and essentially 1% waste before patch was impossible? :) |
Tystoo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.22 18:35:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Pre-Crius perfect wasn't even possible on many BPO, especially anything larger than a frigate.
If you are researching everything to ME 10%, you are STILL researching too much.
My complaint was more about different isk/hour values for different blueprints and even different isk/hour values for the same type of blueprint, i just used to mouse scroll wheel to submit the longest job on the blue prints. Nothing on the blue print information sheet indicates cost multipliers, the only information is time per run.
Bastion module 209119 isk/hour
Rupture 84880 isk/hour
Thrasher 9524 isk/hour
Slasher 6026 isk/hour
inferno cruise missile 13 isk/hour
mjolnir cruise missile 34 isk/hour
nova cruise missile 11 isk/hour
scourge cruise missile 17 isk/hour |
Qoi
Exert Force
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Posted - 2014.07.22 18:39:00 -
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The facility usage fees are based on the value of the product the blueprint is producing. That value is changing all the time, but it can be requested from CREST at http://public-crest.eveonline.com/market/prices/ (The adjusted price key)
EDIT: changed SISI to TQ URL <.< |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.07.22 18:49:00 -
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Barton Breau wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Pre-Crius perfect wasn't even possible on many BPO, especially anything larger than a frigate.
If you are researching everything to ME 10%, you are STILL researching too much. So you are saying researching a bs bpo in 40 days to ME10 to have now ME10, and essentially 1% waste before patch was impossible? :)
No I'm saying researching say a Raven to maximum ML 1,515,526 (no waste), took 17.540 years, 9 months, 21 days, 16 hours.
You can research to maximum now (no waste), in far less time, but at an increased ISK cost. |
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.22 20:25:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Barton Breau wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Pre-Crius perfect wasn't even possible on many BPO, especially anything larger than a frigate.
If you are researching everything to ME 10%, you are STILL researching too much. So you are saying researching a bs bpo in 40 days to ME10 to have now ME10, and essentially 1% waste before patch was impossible? :) No I'm saying researching say a Raven to maximum ML 1,515,526 (no waste), took 17.540 years, 9 months, 21 days, 16 hours. You can research to maximum now (no waste), in far less time, but at an increased ISK cost.
Problem is noone did back then, but to 10+ most did, one month rule, how many will now, with a 6 month investment and possibly billions involved (unless they really fix that) ? |
Tystoo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.22 22:33:00 -
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Qoi wrote:The facility usage fees are based on the value of the product the blueprint is producing. That value is changing all the time, but it can be requested from CREST at http://public-crest.eveonline.com/market/prices/ (The adjusted price key) EDIT: changed SISI to TQ URL <.< here are some examples: Inferno Cruise Missile 97.7086 Mjolnir Cruise Missile 260.7829 Nova Cruise Missile 82.4973 Scourge Cruise Missile 134.1964
That explains the differences in the costs of the cruise print research but does not explain the difference in e.g. the research cost of the Slasher print and a cruise missiles print.
Show info on cruise missile print shows 15 seconds build time and 100 items per build, slasher has build time of 1 minute 40 seconds and builds one Slasher. Slasher price form wall of text from that crest link is 343775 divided by 100 seconds is 3437 per second. For the nova cruise missile it's 100 * 82 / 15 = 547 build value per second.
Build value per second Slasher / Nova cruise missile 3437 / 547 = 6.2
ME cost per hour Slasher / Nova cruise 6026 / 11 = 548
Still don't understand the isk/hour differences on ME research. |
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