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Cheyenne Shadowborn	Posted - 2006.07.04 11:59:00 - [1] Okay, I've read every single mining FAQ under the sun ... twice. Deep Core Mining however puzzles me. Is it: a) something I need when I want to mine the really elaborate roids in low sec and/or 0.0 or b) will it give me benefits on "normal" roids too, i.e. can I let loose DCM equipment on an Omber, Veldspar, Scordite roid and get better minerals? Thanks, as always. ----------------------------------------------------- "At least freelancer keeps the physics realistic." -- SINKFIST
Lev Arris	Posted - 2006.07.04 12:29:00 - [2] I believe that the T2 stips work slightly differently (because of the mining crystals I believe) but... Deep Core Mining is for when you want to mine the morphite ore - mining other roids with it is less productive than using the 'normal' mining lasers (of equivalent level)
Arkanor	Posted - 2006.07.04 18:35:00 - [3] Edited by: Arkanor on 04/07/2006 18:35:13 Deep core mining (skill) allows you to use Modulated Deep Core Miner IIs (at the mere cost of 1m each) which can be slightly more efficient than normal Miner IIs at mining cheap ore when fitted with proper crystals. However, their primary use and the prime use for the skill is to mine mercoxit (rare 0.0 only.) ________ Originally by: kieron rabble, Rabble, RABBLE, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!111elevenone Sig certified HAC proof...woo for crappy puns
Tsual	Posted - 2006.07.04 22:29:00 - [4] Originally by: Arkanor Edited by: Arkanor on 04/07/2006 18:35:13 Deep core mining (skill) allows you to use Modulated Deep Core Miner IIs (at the mere cost of 1m each) which can be slightly more efficient than normal Miner IIs at mining cheap ore when fitted with proper crystals. Or make a cheap retriever out of mining cruisers. ******************** Moral is only usefull so far as society demands it from one to accept his presence.
Toy	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:34:00 - [5] Edited by: Toy on 05/07/2006 17:34:32 So if I understand this right... The deep core miner will give me 120 ore and 120 ore from the crystal over 3 minutes cycle time for 240/3 = 80 ore per laser per minute... The miner II will give me 60 ore a minute for a total of 60. So it seems the deep core miner II is the best for a miner bs or cruiser? The 3 min cycle time is very cool as you dont have to remain at the keys? So, can you mine basic ore with it? That is my questions I guess as the description suggests you can only mine mercoxit with it.
Jobie Thickburger	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:20:00 - [6] You can mine anything with it, Just be sure to have the proper crystal fitted. Also remembe that unlike Gun-Laser crystals, These don't last very long (5-6h I think tops) and if your mining multiple types of ore, you will need multiple crystals. CEO - MGTTG
Rafe Poseidon	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Toy Edited by: Toy on 05/07/2006 17:34:32 So if I understand this right... The deep core miner will give me 120 ore and 120 ore from the crystal over 3 minutes cycle time for 240/3 = 80 ore per laser per minute... The miner II will give me 60 ore a minute for a total of 60. So it seems the deep core miner II is the best for a miner bs or cruiser? The 3 min cycle time is very cool as you dont have to remain at the keys? So, can you mine basic ore with it? That is my questions I guess as the description suggests you can only mine mercoxit with it. This is one of the things that confuse a lot of people. You do NOT get 120 + 120 for the crystal on a Deep core miner II. Here is what you really get from the miners not taking any other skills into account. Miner II - 60/min MDCM II w/no crystal - 120/3 = 40/min MDCM II w/ T1 Crystal(162.5%) - 1201.625/3 = 66/min MDCM II w/ T2 Crystal(175%) - 1201.75/3 = 70/min These miners can be used on any ore, assuming you are using the correct crystal. Hope this helps, Rafe Poseidon

Chribba	Posted - 2006.07.11 09:19:00 - [8] Apoc+8xMDCMII+Crystal 4tw when not being able to use a barge. EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Karl Mattar	Posted - 2006.07.11 15:18:00 - [9] You'd be better served to get a barge.
Estan Drake	Posted - 2006.07.11 22:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Estan Drake on 11/07/2006 22:06:12 Originally by: Rafe PoseidonThis is one of the things that confuse a lot of people. You do NOT get 120 + 120 for the crystal on a Deep core miner II. Here is what you really get from the miners not taking any other skills into account. Miner II - 60/min MDCM II w/no crystal - 120/3 = 40/min MDCM II w/ T1 Crystal(162.5%) - 1201.625/3 = 66/min MDCM II w/ T2 Crystal(175%) - 1201.75/3 = 70/min These miners can be used on any ore, assuming you are using the correct crystal. Hope this helps, Rafe Poseidon [/quote 1.75 = 75% bonus Wouldn't a 175% be 1202.75? or is this another one of CCP wonder full math jobs where a 100% bonus is bugged to a 0% bonus because their math sucks? EDIT: ah I see now they have it listed as 1.75%* which makes even less sense that would mean a less than 2% increase on the lasers.... I about give up on trying to keep track of their math, I'll just assume you have it right though, thats the only way that makes sense
Angels Slayer	Posted - 2006.10.12 04:48:00 - [11] If you have he correct skills anyways, you end up getting more than 60 units per cycle with a Miner II. I for example get 80 units per cycle.
Guurzak Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Angels Slayer If you have he correct skills anyways, you end up getting more than 60 units per cycle with a Miner II. I for example get 80 units per cycle. Yes, but those same skills improve the performance of the modulated lasers by the same ratio. Those skills don't change the relative efficiency between the two types of lasers... and since everybody's skills are different, it makes the most sense to imply leave them out of the discussion. Note that the crystals for a modulated laser require you to have the appropriate %Ore Processing skills, which require a hefty investment into Refining Efficiency and Metallurgy as prereqs.

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