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AngelFood
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:34:00 -
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When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve they could use proper english, so why now do we have to resort to bizarre language alternatives?
Surely it's best for everyone including people who are learning english or just not very good at it to use proper english and the proper terms, like 'rate of fire' which apparently contrary to american thought is perfectly self explanatory and has been used in many ways in the real world with no need for some alternate phrase like firing speed!
This is obviously just one of many phrase changes that have been happening in eve like the latest 'Time efficiency', which I suppose is a more debatably reasonable change but unnecessary in my mind.
Perhaps this is just what comes from hiring random players from the game who seem to be good at taking in information and spewing it out again.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12401
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:37:00 -
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One could always switch to the German localization to get around it...
But I'd say, file some bug tickets on phrases that you think are not making sense.
/c
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6352
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:41:00 -
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This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
Potato crisps, Potato chips and Crispy Corn Snacks bother your happiness?
Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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AngelFood
21
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:48:00 -
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Damn, I forgot to delete this before posting it. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1034
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt? Yes. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:29:00 -
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AngelFood wrote:they could use proper english
Irony. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
64
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:32:00 -
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As i understand it, firing speed is the rate that you make staff jobless |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
540
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:03:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway?
There is a ************ joke here, but I just have too much self-respect to make it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3144
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:08:00 -
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AngelFood wrote:When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve they could use proper english, so why now do we have to resort to bizarre language alternatives?
Surely it's best for everyone including people who are learning english or just not very good at it to use proper english and the proper terms, like 'rate of fire' which apparently contrary to american thought is perfectly self explanatory and has been used in many ways in the real world with no need for some alternate phrase like firing speed!
This is obviously just one of many phrase changes that have been happening in eve like the latest 'Time efficiency', which I suppose is a more debatably reasonable change but unnecessary in my mind.
Perhaps this is just what comes from hiring random players from the game who seem to be good at taking in information and spewing it out again.
Less American "English" is a good thing, +1 things like this irritate me no end.
Also, F&I is that way ----------->
o7 Doc Fury. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6353
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:14:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:AngelFood wrote:When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve they could use proper english, so why now do we have to resort to bizarre language alternatives?
Surely it's best for everyone including people who are learning english or just not very good at it to use proper english and the proper terms, like 'rate of fire' which apparently contrary to american thought is perfectly self explanatory and has been used in many ways in the real world with no need for some alternate phrase like firing speed!
This is obviously just one of many phrase changes that have been happening in eve like the latest 'Time efficiency', which I suppose is a more debatably reasonable change but unnecessary in my mind.
Perhaps this is just what comes from hiring random players from the game who seem to be good at taking in information and spewing it out again.
Less American "English" is a good thing, +1 things like this irritate me no end.
Double-barrel surnames annoy me no end too
But, like, y'know, whatever, dewd "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1475
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:07:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
Potato crisps, Potato chips and Crispy Corn Snacks bother your happiness?
Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway? to be fair, in the US, there is a LEGAL distinction between potato chips and crisps. originating from the dawn of Pringles, other chips got pissed that they called pringles chips even though they werent made with the "chipping" process, which ended in a ruling stating pringles could not call themselves chips, and were instead crisps. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
667
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:54:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
Potato crisps, Potato chips and Crispy Corn Snacks bother your happiness?
Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway? to be fair, in the US, there is a LEGAL distinction between potato chips and crisps. originating from the dawn of Pringles, other chips got pissed that they called pringles chips even though they werent made with the "chipping" process, which ended in a ruling stating pringles could not call themselves chips, and were instead crisps.
Case in point here;
Crisps in the UK generally refer to slices of potato (chipped) that have been fried. (1)
And then we call corn-based triangles "tortilla chips". (2)
So the total opposite :-) Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Escobar Slim III
YOLOSWAGHASHTAGDOLLARBILLZSWIMMINGPOOLICECREAMS
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:23:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
Potato crisps, Potato chips and Crispy Corn Snacks bother your happiness?
Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway?
did somebody just mention ice cream? how you do gurl? |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1110
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:53:00 -
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Most producers of software or text, outside of UK, prefer to use the pidgin version of English known as American for the simple reason that there are more of those ugly -------- than of any other kind that has some form of English as first language.
Most people will understand this, give it a few more decades and people in the UK might even learn the difference between British Summer Time and GMT ...
CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
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Doggy Dogwoofwoof
The Eleusinian The Imicus Contract
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:12:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
Potato crisps, Potato chips and Crispy Corn Snacks bother your happiness?
Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway? to be fair, in the US, there is a LEGAL distinction between potato chips and crisps. originating from the dawn of Pringles, other chips got pissed that they called pringles chips even though they werent made with the "chipping" process, which ended in a ruling stating pringles could not call themselves chips, and were instead crisps. Case in point here; Crisps in the UK generally refer to slices of potato (chipped) that have been fried. ( 1) And then we call corn-based triangles "tortilla chips". ( 2) So the total opposite :-) To be fair, That change happened after the US revolted, So the US English is closer to the Proper Original English. |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
4023
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:29:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
Potato crisps, Potato chips and Crispy Corn Snacks bother your happiness?
Why ARE some Kleenex "man" size anyway? to be fair, in the US, there is a LEGAL distinction between potato chips and crisps. originating from the dawn of Pringles, other chips got pissed that they called pringles chips even though they werent made with the "chipping" process, which ended in a ruling stating pringles could not call themselves chips, and were instead crisps.
To be properly fair, that's because the US legal system is rather anal and petty. Everything's just 'chips' in Australia, where petty and frivolous lawsuits get laughed out of court. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8173
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:31:00 -
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I'm still confused about when I last played pool, and they told me I needed to put a little English on it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1023
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:35:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt? Yes.
One is gelato.
The other is not gelato. |
Lila Merle
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:48:00 -
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AngelFood wrote:...proper terms, like 'rate of fire'
Which would be rounds per minute or rounds per second. Last time I check the data was seconds between rounds. Firing Interval perhaps? (though that sounds clumsy) |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
248
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:59:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Rowells wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt? Yes. One is gelato. The other is not gelato.
Neither is gelato. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later |
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Yamada Capital Defense
5241
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Posted - 2014.07.26 01:31:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: MORE American "English" is a good thing,
Fixed that for you. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
302
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Posted - 2014.07.26 01:43:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Most producers of software or text, outside of UK, prefer to use the pidgin version of English known as American for the simple reason that there are more of those ugly -------- than of any other kind that has some form of English as first language.
1776 and 1812!!! BOOYAH!!
Also, the Royal Family are shape-shifting lizard ppl from the lower 4th dimension. I read about it. Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Serene Repose
1450
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Posted - 2014.07.26 07:29:00 -
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If no one's pointed this out great. If someone has...oops.
RoF, rate of fire, is quite actively used by "Americans". Though, I have to say a lot of America says "rapidez del tiro." (I'm sure those weren't the "Americans" to whom you referred.)
After this remark of yours I'm going to be monitoring your posts quite closely, OP. If you use this ridiculous subject/verb disagreement form that's all the rage (England are) you will certainly be hearing from ME. (I can tell you THAT!) Nyah.
Like this ridiculous post above me...The royal family ARE...family is SINGULAR. There is ONE English royal family. There are MANY "members" of this royal family. The members of the royal family ARE. The royal family IS.
AAARGH!!! Stop killing your language! I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10807
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:07:00 -
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Rate of fire is not the proper term because damage modules and the like apply a reductive effect to it. Reducing rate of fire would mean that your weapon fires more slowly (at a lower rate) but in EVE this means that the period or duration between shots is reduced. The rate of fire, or the frequency, is increased. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1024
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Posted - 2014.07.26 10:39:00 -
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Presumably they are meant to reduce the cycle time of the weapon which increases the cyclic rate/ROF |
Yossarian Toralen
Steel and Iron Regiment
5
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:13:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Rate of fire is not the proper term because damage modules and the like apply a reductive effect to it. Reducing rate of fire would mean that your weapon fires more slowly (at a lower rate) but in EVE this means that the period or duration between shots is reduced. The rate of fire, or the frequency, is increased.
I can't find any weapon upgrades, rigs or any text that says reduces the rate of fire when they mean increase (I haven't seen it but it could be there).
To the OP, what do we English speakers use in place of rate of fire?
Firing speed would more likely be confused with muzzle velocity wouldn't it? |
AngelFood
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Posted - 2014.07.27 06:47:00 -
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wtf! |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:22:00 -
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Dis thread r full of gud timez. Turrents |
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:30:00 -
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Iceland has strong connections with North America I believe due to the Americans assisting with one of the volcanic disasters there. So this probably explains the use of American spelling such as omitting the letter U etc from words. |
Felicity Love
Icendus Corux
2061
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:35:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:This thread is worth having
Do you get confused between Ice Cream and Frozen Yogurt?
And here I thought you were more of a gelatto kind of gal. ;P
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:36:00 -
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Rate of Fire : Frequency What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1532
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:03:00 -
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AngelFood wrote:When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve they could use proper english, so why now do we have to resort to bizarre language alternatives?
Surely it's best for everyone including people who are learning english or just not very good at it to use proper english and the proper terms, like 'rate of fire' which apparently contrary to american thought is perfectly self explanatory and has been used in many ways in the real world with no need for some alternate phrase like firing speed!
This is obviously just one of many phrase changes that have been happening in eve like the latest 'Time efficiency', which I suppose is a more debatably reasonable change but unnecessary in my mind.
Perhaps this is just what comes from hiring random players from the game who seem to be good at taking in information and spewing it out again.
It's dumbing down for pegi 12. I hate pegi 12 in eve, frozen corpses used to be naked. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1026
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:13:00 -
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RoAnnon wrote:Rate of Fire : Frequency What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength
Surprising that is actually relevant in WWII flight sims :D
Slow firing large cannon on WWII planes (such as the nose cannon in the P39) had such a long "wavelength" your target could actually slip between the shells when defection shooting.
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Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1484
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:41:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:If no one's pointed this out great. If someone has...oops.
RoF, rate of fire, is quite actively used by "Americans". Though, I have to say a lot of America says "rapidez del tiro." (I'm sure those weren't the "Americans" to whom you referred.)
After this remark of yours I'm going to be monitoring your posts quite closely, OP. If you use this ridiculous subject/verb disagreement form that's all the rage (England are) you will certainly be hearing from ME. (I can tell you THAT!) Nyah.
Like this ridiculous post above me...The royal family ARE...family is SINGULAR. There is ONE English royal family. There are MANY "members" of this royal family. The members of the royal family ARE. The royal family IS.
AAARGH!!! Stop killing your language! American English, when we refer to family, we refer to the plurality of members, not the entity itself. After all, the Royal Family CAN NOT be multiple lizard people from the lower 4th dimension, it is both a single entity and a nonphysical one.
We Americans simply choose to drop out the "members of the" pretext because over here most services you pay by character, so it literally pays to cut out as much writing as possible. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
306
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Posted - 2014.07.28 00:21:00 -
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^^^^^ this, ty. Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1306
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Posted - 2014.07.28 00:33:00 -
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AngelFood wrote:When Icelanders were the only people involved in designing and running eve
You're wrong. You just sit there being wrong. Epic Space Cat |
Chewytowel Haklar
Sextans Tech Brothers of Tangra
64
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:15:00 -
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I can't begin to imagine how anyone can play a game for so long and get so ticked off by things like 'proper english.' It's like someone going through the drive thru of a restaurant and yelling into the speaker that they shouldn't be allowed to sell anything if they spell burger wrong. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1026
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:22:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:I can't begin to imagine how anyone can play a game for so long and get so ticked off by things like 'proper english.' It's like someone going through the drive thru of a restaurant and yelling into the speaker that they shouldn't be allowed to sell anything if they spell burger wrong.
Must admit its a bit ironic in a space game set in the distant future in another galaxy.
If it was "Downton Abbey the Edwardian Society Sim" maybe .... |
Hiply Rustic
A Private Space Venture
90
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:29:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Rate of Fire : Frequency What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength Surprising that is actually relevant in WWII flight sims :D Slow firing large cannon on WWII planes (such as the nose cannon in the P39) had such a long "wavelength" your target could actually slip between the shells when defection shooting.
The practice of shooting defectors with fighter planes never really took off. Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the stong-willied need apply.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1026
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:33:00 -
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Hiply Rustic wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Rate of Fire : Frequency What EVE measures weapons by : wavelength Surprising that is actually relevant in WWII flight sims :D Slow firing large cannon on WWII planes (such as the nose cannon in the P39) had such a long "wavelength" your target could actually slip between the shells when defection shooting. The practice of shooting defectors with fighter planes never really took off.
For that matter neither did a lot of the crazy late war designs, some exploded on the runway though. |
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