To be fair, we're talking about several months here, not hours, as Abannan has already mentioned. That was just that night. One of us has had stream up as part of almost every major gallente offensive this year, with the same stuff in it and delay. Not every minute of every day, but a few hours here and there. That night was the first time it had blown up like that, and it didn't blow up until after that fight.

To prove our point we had another stream up the following night, with 80+ people viewing again, only we did our own fleet fluctuating between 5-7 guys. I made sure to tag it on Twitter where I have several Caldari followers.

With all of the "blue intel" provided, a 3 week old character that was with us lost a pair of derp ships due to pilot error because he's still learning to fly, we took no other losses, capped several plexes in okkamon the the main fleet didn't touch, spent more TIME in action in Okkamon than the main fleet on account of not needing to reship constantly, and scored over 2 dozen kills. You guys drew a couple larger fights we were able to support, while the rest of our time was spent plugging gaps in plex coverage. I'd like to think we did our part that night while not exposing you guys to the dangers of streaming.

Now we can keep hashing this out all you like, but as I've mentioned, I believe we have this worked out moving forward, and the past can't be changed so...

I'm sure DJ Bacon has done a lot more good than bad overall for gal mil. Between EVE radio fleets on fridays (from a cal mil perspective, i recall those fleets reaching upwards of 100 members at times over a year ago when I lived in enaluri) and streams i'm sure that the publicity has steered hundreds of players towards joining gal mil over time (obviously there's not going to be 100% retention on that). A 5 minute delay and replacing comms (for serious fleets) with some good music won't hurt going forward though.

RAAAAAGE!

I do the streams to show folks how much fun we have in FW and to promote our style of fighting, which is quite a bit different from other areas of Eve's PVP. The comments claiming fame whoring are a bit off as I've been a public face in Eve for nearly 8 years now and am reasonably well known as it is. I don't need twitch to promote myself.

What I DO want is a more robust, and larger FW community out in space fighting. Twitch is a far better medium to promote that cause than radio or blogging. I can tell people how awesome the fun we have is until I'm blue in the face, but nothing beats actually showing it.

Crosi, I was actually hoping you would turn up here. It's a nice change to see you coming to me in public over the sneaky sneaky stuff you were trying to pull the other day. :)

As i have mentioned to you personally, due to your inability to confront people you have problems with directly, I won't be working with you any further on anything. Fortunately, since you mostly fly a Maulus and other assorted T1 frigs, and are never seen in anything larger than a cruiser (and rarely at that), I won't be missing out on much. As you've also stated you've no desire to work with me, this can be considered a mutual distaste, though perhaps for different reasons (you think I'm an idiot, while I'm under the impression you lack balls).

The benefit of twitch I have already covered:


We spend large portions of our twitch broadcasts fielding questions about FW to people curious about it, and those thinking of joining. We give general advice to people new to the game, and talk about Eve to people who don't even play and are wondering if it's worth giving it a go.

Your attempts to insult me aside, the "Most viewers were aligned against gellente and just laughed at one of our most dedicated FC's" part is only true because the stream viewership jumped by almost 60 once several members of gal mil (with full knowledge they were being broadcast live) decided to begin raging. That can be attributed to the Caldari fleet popping in to catch a very dramatic display. Neutral folks who were present also greatly enjoyed the display, including former QCATS pilot JonnyPew, who found it exceptionally amusing knowing those involved.

As a relatively well known broadcaster of Eve related things for many years now, I have enough self control to not say things I might regret later while being recorded or broadcast. Unfortunately that night, there were a few people who did not possess that same self control. Their embarrassment is a result of their own actions, though you certainly would not be remiss in saying that they would not have embarrassed themselves so publicly if I had cut the audio at that point.

As I've already mentioned, because I have a great deal of respect for the people I tend to fly with (yourself excepted) I spoke with several FCs, and have changed the way we will be handling streaming moving forward. Our own fleets will remain unchanged, while fleets run by other FCs outside of our alliance will be at that FC's discretion. Everyone seems to be fine with this resolution, though some (like yourself) see fit to continue to rage about things I obviously can't go back and change, even though you are also satisfied with how things will be handled in the future.

My suggestion to you (which you are free to ignore) is that if you are satisfied with how things will be handled from here, and with the fact that you need not worry about me joining any fleet you are in moving forward, please calm down and take some deep breaths. There is nothing to be gained by you continuing this tirade.

TL;DR

You were never in most gallente fleets, and you will never be in a fleet i am in henceforth . You are an imbecile.

A well reasoned and thoughtful response as always. Thank you for expressing your feelings. :)

The only way you can redeem yourself is to let me TWITCH your alliance tournament practice sessions. Didnt think so.

Suddenly security is a big deal.

You seem adamant at streaming our AT practice sessions. I already did that =/

I can guarantee they got nothing useful from it, other than a bunch of new players and some experienced guys trying to not make weed, **** and fart jokes and actually come up with a strategy... which has since changed, but that was streamed too!

Lets do it an hour before your first match.

Mirana already told me you guys are gonna be out in 2 matches, seems a bit defeatist but i guess mirana knows better than i do.

who can field hundreds of billions of isk per ship

Lets do it an hour before your first match.

Mirana already told me you guys are gonna be out in 2 matches, seems a bit defeatist but i guess mirana knows better than i do.

i dont think you understand how the AT works.

Perhaps understanding the AT would not detract from enjoying it? I might be wrong.

It was an example of how we're going to be outclassed and out-gunned...

But, here's Hydra fielding an Etana and 3 Cambions. Just an example of the hundreds of billions per ship. Where as our flagship was going to be an Algos, but CCP said no to sub-Battleship flagships =(

Dude, I thought Charlie was going to cry when we told him the algos was no go for flagship.

Well, i guess it comes down to this. Just because you have no OP-SEC and expect failure in all your ventures at BNANA,

See, this is why we can't have nice things. That's not what we said at all.

I'd try to explain it to you again, but in your current state of butthurt, and inability to process more than a few sentences at a time, I think it would be a waste of time.

I'll Just repeat that I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by continuing posting about this, and politely suggest (again) that you move on so we can all do the same.

And people say we dont have drama in GalMil...

TONIGHT on GalMil EVE bitchslapping LIVE:

In the left corner, the angry man with the awesome hair: MIIIIIRRRAAAAANNNNNAAAAA aka FunkyBacon!

In the right corner, the TWITCH enthusiast of who I have no idea what his haircut looks like: CROOOOOSSSIIII WEEEEESDOOOOOOO!!!

We-¦re still looking for more judges, as I am obviously biased!

Cards for the best places are only reliably sold by me, 100 mil ISK per cheek! Get them now or they will be sold out!

And people say we dont have drama in GalMil...

TONIGHT on GalMil EVE bitchslapping LIVE:

In the left corner, the angry man with the awesome hair: MIIIIIRRRAAAAANNNNNAAAAA aka FunkyBacon!

In the right corner, the TWITCH enthusiast of who I have no idea what his haircut looks like: CROOOOOSSSIIII WEEEEESDOOOOOOO!!!

We-¦re still looking for more judges, as I am obviously biased!

Cards for the best places are only reliably sold by me, 100 mil ISK per cheek! Get them now or they will be sold out!

So that's 100, 200, or 400 per person? I assume you mean butt cheeks, but people also have a pair on their face. Do people who have suffered some sort of injury and might be missing a butt cheek get a 50% discount, and do prosthetic cheeks count full?

Funky,

I'm glad for the changes that have been put in place, and I'm in favor of recording and/or streaming content when appropriate to publicize EVE and FW in particular.

However, some things need to stop being said by you.

"(with full knowledge they were being broadcast live) " <- this is false.

From everything that I've read and heard from a few galmil pilots I know ingame, Crosi loves to antagonize everyone on comms and ingame with his constant trolling. Does the guy even know how to play along nicely without causing drama?