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Verjigorm	Posted - 2006.07.06 08:07:00 - [1] As of 2006.07.05 01:38, the war with the Intaki Union has been cancelled by the Intaki Union. No longer willing to engage the Verisum Family, the Intaki Union returns to their home systems. We watch them disengage and drift into the night with little interest. Their time in the war was done. The first of the foes of Verisum has fallen and we are victorious. During this time we have lost nothing of our own membership and so we continue to stand strong. Our vision remains fixed on those that are yet to fall to the will of the Family, but we will continue to engage them until they do. We are what we always were, a Family dedicated to the notion that we must rise and die for our cause, and so we are not deterred. We remain the line between your Empire's complacency and the truth of its failings. Verisum victor. Delcallatt shestet Bloodveil. Signed, Reisha Nafina Overossa Legatus
Taira Reikon	Posted - 2006.07.06 08:32:00 - [2] Originally by: Verjigorm ...The first of the foes of Verisum has fallen and we are victorious.... Er, yeah right. Victorious. I'm sure that's exactly what you're looking in your little world right now
M3t4tr0n	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:19:00 - [3] You might want to speak to Revan before you start sprouting such drivel. Verisum Family 'victorious'? Don't make me laugh! With a joke like that you deserve to be 'Overossa Idiotes'. We'll be seeing you all on the battlefield again very soon.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:23:00 - [4] I must say that I find it somewhat amusing that when one of their allies withdraws from the war, the Verisum Family describes it as a "rotation of forces", and yet when an enemy does the same, it's spun as a glorious victory. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Revan Neferis	Posted - 2006.07.06 10:17:00 - [5] Intaki Union have retracted the war. Let us not praise upon this. Intaki Union fought for a cause that didn't belong to them. They fought bravely for their Amarr ties and I have no reason to say they didn't oppose us with full hearts. They retreated the war, a movement that any corporation and or alliance can choose to make. It is either that or press the surrender button. Both have equall results: they cancel their will to fight and therefore become not a valid war target. I see Intaki Union leaving this war with indifference at my face. I see them leaving and they will be lost of my sight as we follow different paths. I claim no wishes to desire them good luck, I claim no wishes to say things could have been different. When they decided to leave Placid and abandom their own to protect Aegis Militia, they have choosen a path. A series of tensions closes here and I will not take my time to say another word at the subject. The fight against the real targets proceeds. Ut sementem feceris ita metes Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus.
Revan Neferis	Posted - 2006.07.06 10:36:00 - [6] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 06/07/2006 10:37:02 ((double post)) delete Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus.
Tarsha Listur	Posted - 2006.07.06 10:42:00 - [7] interesting Kalahari Wayrest > Serps are like men though... they come in close and fast, 10 seconds of fun and they explode all over your face and you're left to clean up the mess
M3t4tr0n	Posted - 2006.07.06 12:35:00 - [8] Edited by: M3t4tr0n on 06/07/2006 12:36:34 Originally by: Revan Neferis They retreated the war, a movement that any corporation and or alliance can choose to make. It is either that or press the surrender button. Both have equall results: they cancel their will to fight and therefore become not a valid war target. Not getting enough oxygen Revan? Anyway there seems to be confusion on this matter which will be cleared up right now. Intaki Union did not surrender. The true reason was dued to an oversight which meant the person responsible for paying the war bill wasn't around. People may make mistakes but once they learn from it they make up for lost time. Rest assured our fighting spirit has not diminished, it continually grows. Your pathetic attempt of trying to take advantage of this situation is laughable just like your performance on the battlefield. Hiring mercs to join your alliance, hmm, thats some 'family' you got there. Our allies who fly with us as one, hold steadfast in your beliefs and actions for we shall return. Just like before, our bonds strong, our minds clear and our cause just.
Graelyn	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:00:00 - [9] The bottom of that barrel needs scraping. Here's your fish! Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Shemar	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:14:00 - [10] Originally by: M3t4tr0n the person responsible for paying the war bill wasn't around Oh, I'll be laughing at this one for days. The Union can always be counted on for a good laugh. ________________ Enhanced eye sight does not make up for the lack of vision
M3t4tr0n	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Shemar Originally by: M3t4tr0n the person responsible for paying the war bill wasn't around Oh, I'll be laughing at this one for days. The Union can always be counted on for a good laugh. You may laugh but honesty holds sway when reaching for the truth. Intaki Union along with its allies such as Aegis Militia and PIE will be the ones laughing in the end. Verisum victor? Hah!
Shemar	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:52:00 - [12] Originally by: M3t4tr0n Intaki Union along with its allies such as Aegis Militia and PIE Here is how the game is played: The above phrase contains a lie and a truth. They are both highlighted. Can you guess which is which? ________________ Enhanced eye sight does not make up for the lack of vision
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:58:00 - [13] Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 06/07/2006 14:03:34 that was me, I was mistaken on the 4th as to deadlines due to copious amounts of spiced wine! Where i come from we enjoy festivities of lights and fireworks on the 4th. Sadly due to this intoxicated state I lost track that the war bill was due that day. We have already a revote for war and our allies were made aware of it yesterday. Verjigorm, you are an idiot who needs to check his facts before putting his foot in his mouth. I will say it was funny that Revan suddenly started to try and be buddy-buddy to Phant because she thought we were leaving the war. I guess the wh*re doesn't understand that she can't cuddle her way out of every conflict. only Verji and his clone jacks are still controlled by that trash. I mean honestly, I'd rather stick it in a sewer grate than touch that woman. Less chance of catching a disease.
Habraka	Posted - 2006.07.06 14:00:00 - [14] Ok nublars, let's this be clear once and for all. Verisum Family is quite new compared to the likes of PIE Inc, Aegis Militia and the CVA. We did not get the time like the above three entities got to recruit members and get an 'overwhelming' fleet together like you've been fielding against us the last few weeks. The truth is, we have isk, but not enough members that have the experience in combat needed to face all our enemies, so we pay people to support our forces. We aren't a big alliance, we do not have enough pvp'ers, so we pay some to fight you. Can we now please fight a war instead of shouting "OMG VF heav IKS adn mercs letse maek a thread abut them!11!?!1". I suggest you take a few pills, lay down a bit, and get some rest. After that, go play outside and get some fresh air. I might help you get over us, as everyone seems obsessed with every move VF makes.
Revan Neferis	Posted - 2006.07.06 14:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Shemar Originally by: M3t4tr0n the person responsible for paying the war bill wasn't around Oh, I'll be laughing at this one for days. The Union can always be counted on for a good laugh. IU directors and CEO have been online after the 24 hours expired and no war dec has come. War propaganda apart, Phantomas,Tomahawk Bliss and their Amarr followers are not newbbies or the irresponsible leaders you want to make them appear Meta. A shame you come to humilliate your own At any case if a war dec comes back, for us things will not chance, continues as always been. And if they did with reason my words above apply. Originally by: Shemar Originally by: M3t4tr0n Intaki Union along with its allies such as Aegis Militia and PIE Here is how the game is played: The above phrase contains a lie and a truth. They are both highlighted. Can you guess which is which? I can make a bet Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.07.06 14:12:00 - [16] Originally by: Habraka Ok nublars, let's this be clear once and for all. Verisum Family is quite new compared to the likes of PIE Inc, Aegis Militia and the CVA. We did not get the time like the above three entities got to recruit members and get an 'overwhelming' fleet together like you've been fielding against us the last few weeks. The truth is, we have isk, but not enough members that have the experience in combat needed to face all our enemies, so we pay people to support our forces. We aren't a big alliance, we do not have enough pvp'ers, so we pay some to fight you. Can we now please fight a war instead of shouting "OMG VF heav IKS adn mercs letse maek a thread abut them!11!?!1". I suggest you take a few pills, lay down a bit, and get some rest. After that, go play outside and get some fresh air. I might help you get over us, as everyone seems obsessed with every move VF makes. If you couldn't handle the war, why declare in the first place? If you needed to hire mercenaries because you didn't have sufficient people to support you on ideological grounds, why not admit it in the first place rather than cling to the notion that they were "sleeper cells" until that position is clearly ludicrous? And yes, Verisum Family is indeed relatively new. But it's not so long ago that Revan was (falsely) boasting that Dark Seraph was older than PIE Inc. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
M3t4tr0n	Posted - 2006.07.06 15:00:00 - [17] Revan, Shemar your words do not faze me. Like I said people make mistakes and learn from them. Obviously VF fail to even emulate such a thing. I have faith in my abilities and my comrades. See you out there.
Revan Neferis	Posted - 2006.07.06 15:19:00 - [18] Originally by: Shemar Originally by: M3t4tr0n Intaki Union along with its allies such as Aegis Militia and PIE Here is how the game is played: The above phrase contains a lie and a truth. They are both highlighted. Can you guess which is which? Phantomas CEO Intaki Union [2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future. That helps or complicate? Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus.
Tharrn	Posted - 2006.07.06 15:38:00 - [19] Out of context quotes usually neither help nor complicate anything. This one for example doesn't tell me much the way you quoted. It's like quoting Originally by: Revan Neferis That is your faith which I gladly abandon and deny. and stating you are an enemy of the true faith. Now recruiting!
Leon 026	Posted - 2006.07.06 16:49:00 - [20] M3t4, I have yet to understand why you would fight for a cause that is not yours, especially for a race of people you hold no ties to. Come back to the proper side of Amarr, and not of some Intaki rebels that dont even operate in Intaki space, but in Amarrian space. You seem to be on the wrong side, old friend. ------------------------------- [ 2006.06.22 04:28:01 ] Leon 026 > My Crow dances like she's on ecstasy
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.07.06 17:11:00 - [21] metatron, like bastables, like me, are working for Phantomas to help him build a strong Intaki movement (and I owe him a lot besides so IÆm here as long as he wants me to be around). The vast, vast majority of Intaki Union are Intaki, Caldari and Gallente that support Intaki freedom for the Federation (and oddly enough 2 Khanid) Metatron is a friend of Amarr and Caldari, helping to weaken the Federation. Simple as that. His motives are righteous and goodly just like the Caldari supporters Intaki Union has. And yes I made a mistake with the billing, it was my responsibility and I feel like a complete retard (because obviously I am). VF will have now 48 hours to blob up on AM and PIE and that is uncool and I apologize to the good men and women of those fighting outfits. Thought they have proven why they are good people because except for some good-natured snickering everyone understands and has been very nice about it. It is a shame this happened but in no way has VF won anything, in fact to date Intaki UnionÆs war costs is only about -39m isk (including war dec fees) and Verisum/mercs are down billions. We will continue to cost VF isk and in return trade them tech 1 cruiser loot. you will choke on the volume of isk you are hemorrhaging. And lets remember, as great as mercenaries and the mercenary ideology is, they are transitory. Eventually they will leave to pursue other contracts, or worse you'll run out of isk and default on that contract. Either way you will stand alone again and you will still have all these immortal pod-pilots firing away at you. VF have won nothing except a monumental isk sink. Oh and Leon, the politics of the Intaki are more than the Placid Region, threats to Intaki and allies of the Intaki are all over the cluster. Intaki Union will be where ever an ally needs us or an enemy must be destroyed. Chaining ourselves to a low sec region accomplishes nothing. Besides if we needed to do something in the Placid region it is what, 20 minutes away from Amarr? You people seem to think astronomical distance matters when we have jump gates that can carry us across the entire cluster in a matter of hours. Why even yesterday I sold 3 VF arbalest siege launchers in Caldari space(Jita) and I traveled from Amarr to Jita and back in no time at all. It is weak to say IU isn't interested in Intaki affairs becuase they don't spend 24/7 in Intaki Space.
Gaius Sejanus	Posted - 2006.07.06 17:44:00 - [22] Quote: It is weak to say IU isn't interested in Intaki affairs becuase they don't spend 24/7 in Intaki Space. That's not the reason though. The reason is you barely spend 1/24 hours in Intaki space. The reason is that you support the Caldari and Amarr who would enslave the Intaki if they were permitted to. How you promote freedom by encouraging slavers is beyond the comprehension of any rational mind.
Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2006.07.06 18:43:00 - [23] Dear mister Bliss, you seem to have no idea about what you are talking about. ISK is not a concern to Family Nosferatu, I've given Habraka access to the Family's assets, and our monthly income ensures we can keep this war going for months if not years to come. Every million isk that goes to the destruction of Aegis Militia, is a million isk well spend. Verisum Family and Nosferatu Family do not consider this a waste of isk, otherwise we wouldn't have committed ourselves to spending 10bil+ on you guys. I know 10bil must seem a lot of isk to you guys, when you are used to flying T1 cruisers with T1 modules, especially when your only source of income are lvl 2 missions and veldspar mining in high sec. Face it, Aegis Militia has made a lot of enemies, and some are determinned to get revenge, no matter what the cost. We are Noctus, stand in our way, and you'll die.
Garreck	Posted - 2006.07.06 18:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu I know 10bil must seem a lot of isk to you guys Now that is a very funny thing to say to an alliance that was victimized by the Guiding Hand Social Club...
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.07.06 19:00:00 - [25] Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 06/07/2006 19:00:46 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Dear mister Bliss, you seem to have no idea about what you are talking about. ISK is not a concern to Family Nosferatu, I've given Habraka access to the Family's assets, and our monthly income ensures we can keep this war going for months if not years to come. Every million isk that goes to the destruction of Aegis Militia, is a million isk well spend. Verisum Family and Nosferatu Family do not consider this a waste of isk, otherwise we wouldn't have committed ourselves to spending 10bil+ on you guys. I know 10bil must seem a lot of isk to you guys, when you are used to flying T1 cruisers with T1 modules, especially when your only source of income are lvl 2 missions and veldspar mining in high sec. Face it, Aegis Militia has made a lot of enemies, and some are determinned to get revenge, no matter what the cost. We are Noctus, stand in our way, and you'll die. I am personally worth around 3-4 billion isk in isk and assets Phantomas has over 5 billion isk in isk and assets We have access to "family" assets equal to 40 billion isk including the tech 2 ship BPOs. I don't know AM's asset worth but they are not included in the above information. You have spent 10+ billion? we have spend 39m isk. You lose. If you bankrupt yourself that is your prerogative. you still will be the pirate outsiders smacked down by the Amarr. At least the mercs are making isk off you, this cluster needs more mercs and the only way that will happen is if merc work becomes highly profitable.
Pulgor	Posted - 2006.07.06 19:21:00 - [26] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Face it, Aegis Militia has made a lot of enemies, and some are determinned to get revenge, no matter what the cost. You had better come up with more then some wars and cheap politics then. AM lost more then 50 billion and they didn't die. I know 50 billion may sound like a lot.... etc... rest quote. Okay I'm done. Signature file size to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes - Petwraith
Revan Neferis	Posted - 2006.07.06 20:03:00 - [27] Originally by: Gaius Sejanus Quote: It is weak to say IU isn't interested in Intaki affairs becuase they don't spend 24/7 in Intaki Space. That's not the reason though. The reason is you barely spend 1/24 hours in Intaki space. The reason is that you support the Caldari and Amarr who would enslave the Intaki if they were permitted to. How you promote freedom by encouraging slavers is beyond the comprehension of any rational mind. Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss I feel like a complete retard (because obviously I am). Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus.
Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2006.07.06 20:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu I know 10bil must seem a lot of isk to you guys Now that is a very funny thing to say to an alliance that was victimized by the Guiding Hand Social Club... Intaki Union was victimized by the Guiding Hand Social Club? I wasn't talking about AM, in case you misread. Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss You have spent 10+ billion? we have spend 39m isk. You lose. So you're saying you win a war if you spend less isk on it then the enemy? I can imagen the Amarr Empire spending more isk on the war against the Minmatar when they first encountered them, so with your definition of winning a war, the Minmatar won cause they spend less isk on it, even with hundred of millions of their kin being enslaved and their home worlds being taken away from them? Did the Jove lose cause they spend more isk on their fleet which annihiliated the Amarrian fleet, assuming that Jove ships cost a whole bunch more to make then Amarrian ones, especially with the advanced technology involved? If you win a war by spending less isk on it then your enemy, then yes, we have lost. If you win wars through achieving certain objectives, then the war is long from over. And no, our objectives aren't the conditions we offered AM at the start of the war, just in case silly Graelyn comes rambling about it again.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.07.06 20:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu And no, our objectives aren't the conditions we offered AM at the start of the war, just in case silly Graelyn comes rambling about it again. Who is this we? The last time I checked, Synergy and IRON had not declared war on Aegis Militia. If you want to speak on behalf of Habraka, I suggest you start fighting alongside him. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Ituralde	Posted - 2006.07.06 20:36:00 - [30] While 10 billion ISK may be nothing more to you than a drop in the bucket, I might mention that it does not speak well of your prosecution of the war, no matter how you measure it. That is not to say it is not for a good cause, however it may be worthwhile to reassess your methods of engagement if such numbers are the result. Fear is the mind-killer.

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