Hy, I am not doing any PI (though I am interested in it) and might not be of any significance on commenting on it (besides valuing you opinion from other posts, so I'll listen to what you have to say ).

That said I can only give some small hints of how I perceive this from an outside perspective.

Bonuses that increase yield and therefore ISK over time are worth being scrutinized and I think they should.

First of all, an increase in general is only a good thing if the average and overall ISK generation needs a push for PI and this needs to be ckecked or skill boosts will inevitably force lowering base yields.

Secondly, the suggested bonusses of +5% seem a bit high in general and in conjunction with other more specialized skills. A +2% increase (where yield is concerned) is more in line and seems more reasonable. That should be quite enough at those levels of PI (nothing casual anymore) and concidering you also add more planets (not sure this is good).

And I am definetly not qualified to comment on the more intern suggestions like CPU, Power, etc ...

But otherwise, call me intruiged ... I'll keep listening.

Advanced Interplantary Consolidation
Rank: 8
Bonus: +1 Planet per level
Pre-requisites: Interplanetary Consolidation V

Advanced Routing
Rank: 6
Bonus: -2% per level for CPU and Power requirements for links.
Pre-Requisites: Command Center Upgrades V

Efficient Dispatching
Rank: 4
Bonus: -2%/level in time of next expedited transfer from a facility,
Pre-requisites: None.

Efficient Production
Rank: 6
Bonus: -5%/level in production facility cycle time
Pre-requisites: Command Center Upgrades V

Efficient Storage
Rank: 6
Bonus: +2%/level to storage m3 of launchpads, command centers, and storage facilities.
Pre-requisites: Command Center Upgrades V.

...a lot of good stuff...

Slavery
Rank: 4
Bonus: 5% reduction in installation costs per level
Pre-requisites: Social V

Eugenics
Rank: 3
Bonus: 3% increase in efficiency per level
Pre-requisites: Social V, Science V

Prostitution
Rank: 3
Bonus: 2.5% reduction to player taxes per level
Pre-requisites: Social V, Criminal Connections IV

Advanced Slavery
Rank: 8
Bonus: 5% reduction in installation costs per level
Pre-requisites: Social V, Slavery V

(snip) But did anybody think about what will happen to prices if there are more PI goods available on the market? (snip) ...but then everything that's built with PI stuff would become more expensive.

Of course that would be nice for everyone who does PI. But did anybody think about what will happen to prices if there are more PI goods available on the market? I guess that most people will not put their PI alts to eternal sleep just because they can make some more ISK with only one character.

It seems inevitable to me that changes have to be made on the other end (i.e. material needs for manufacturing) to keep prices at the current level, but then everything that's built with PI stuff would become more expensive.

I would reconfigure PI completely.

Instead of separate facilities, I would do upgrades to them also (same as the command center.

Silo's should be upgradable (increased storage). I would also chop the Powergrid by 1/3 rd to differentiate themselves from Launchpads.

Factories should be upgradable (factory level 1, process as much material as one factory currently does. Factory level 2, process what 2 factories would, factory level 3, processes as much as 3 factories would). This would go up to level 6 also. So if you have a pure factory planet, you could technically use 2 factories that are upgraded and process as much as a current 12 factory planets do now.

I would change Remote Sensing to Range Expansion. Increases range of Extractors by 10% per level (increasing the circle/range of the Extractors, so they reach farther).

Essentially, change to a upgrade system. Your setup would be a lot less, much easier to route, less clicks.

If there are more PI goods produced & sold, then supply & demand indicate that everything that's built with PI stuff would become *less* expensive, as prices would actually drop.

As I said, I'd like to do some math on this end of the equation. I think there's noi debate that there will be more products available. I think the issue that needs examining is "How much more" and "Is that necessarily a bad thing?"

I'd made a suggestion similar to this in the past and was told that this would increase the entry level skill bar too high for people.

Can you expand on that? That's exactly the scenario I am trying to avoid - this suggestion shouldn't alter the entry level at all - all the base costs remain the same. What this does (what it's intended to do anyway) is to allow those of us who have reached that maximum throughput to expand our operations without the need of resorting to YAA (Yet Another Alt) if we don't want to. I am trying to enable advanced PI folks to squeeze every last drop of production from their planets, while still keeping it profitable for entry level folks by leaving the inherent profit per widget untouched.

You snipped the important part concerning prices. Of course prices would drop if there's simply more PI goods on the market. But then you end up with nearly the same ISK as before for more goods as before. Compensation by increasing material needs in manufacturing to keep prices nearly at the same level would be needed, and that would mean that everything that's produced with PI goods will be more expensive as you simply need more units per product. So prices for PI goods will remain at nearly the same level, but everything that contains PI goods will become more expensive. As long as there's no new use for PI goods like completely new product BPs that need PI goods or PI goods used as "fuel" for something. Or NPC corps buying them at fixed prices.

Thx for the math.

Secondly, and which would be a point I wanted to make anyway, maybe some of those skill requirements could be lowered to L4 to unlock, which means some lower skill chars could access some of the (lesser important ones to block support for multiple alts) skills for some early support (maybe not yield) benefits.

But again, 'me no PI yet', so treat with greatness of mind

Honestly, I can't imagine a valid reason why they would want to do that.

There has to be a little less clicking involved also. I would suggest two changes.

1) reset all extractors. 2 clicks, all are reset on all planets. Usually we are not moving heads back and forth every day, but once a week or so. So a mass reset all extraction for all planets should be an option. Rightclick planet in PI window , click (reset all extractors on all planets), click yes

2) we should no longer need to be in system to launch materials to a poco. Just click on launch pad, launch to poco. Doesn't matter where we are

Saving your own planetary setups would be nice.

Way against this. PI is passive income basically. This is just more passive income.
Please explain why more income for not being in space is a good thing.

Way against this. PI is passive income basically. This is just more passive income.
Please explain why more income for not being in space is a good thing.