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RAIN Arthie The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing 350	Posted - 2014.07.28 16:42:00 - [1] - Quote Was reading news articles on it. What I learned. 1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises. If I'm wrong let me know.
Christina Project Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 495	Posted - 2014.07.28 16:43:00 - [2] - Quote Project Leigon. You're wrong. Fix the title! http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven .......
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 15835	Posted - 2014.07.28 16:52:00 - [3] - Quote Look buddy, GD is the place for whining about Eve and the games that will kill it. Go to the DUST forums to whine about DUST and how Legion is killing it. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Arla Sarain 60	Posted - 2014.07.28 16:54:00 - [4] - Quote RAIN Arthie wrote: Was reading news articles on it. What I learned. 1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises. If I'm wrong let me know. 9. No link. Outside of some other magic stuff Legion will be just a typical shooter, with a futuristic setting. Won't stop me from playing it though...
RAIN Arthie The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing 350	Posted - 2014.07.28 16:55:00 - [5] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Look buddy, GD is the place for whining about Eve and the games that will kill it. Go to the DUST forums to whine about DUST and how Legion is killing it. Or the smarter answer would be to open a Legion page. Hell the valkerie- or however it's spelled- got one, not even out yet.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 786	Posted - 2014.07.28 16:59:00 - [6] - Quote RAIN Arthie wrote: Was reading news articles on it. What I learned. 1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises. If I'm wrong let me know. 1) no not really back burnered, its just simmering. Legion is still not green lite. An some updates are coming, but they are just fixes not new stuff. 2) this has passed, most dust players that stayed have shrugged it off, at least from what i have seen 3) As we don;t have all the details, i'm going with that ccp realized they could do what they wanted or be easier to work with if the game was on pc, and they could not port. This is business 101, when you have a failure, you take what worked form it and try again. 4) No, they answered that it was in planning phases and nothing was not set yet. CCP's issue was they did not have any plans for dust, so the dust players felt cheated. 5) Legion is not green lite, its still a concept. There is a forum over on the dust forums where the feed back will be better then what eve players would give. 6) CCP is no longer doing cross platform, so who cares. 7) thats has passed, the people who got pissed and left have already left. 8) actually legion seems to be shaping up well, so the jury is still out. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't.
Christina Project Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 495	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:01:00 - [7] - Quote Arthie, seriously, you can edit the title when you edit the OP. No cuddles for you ever, Mister, if you don't fix that! :p http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áAnd now that I found a home, it's like I'm in heaven .......
Mahadiva School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:04:00 - [8] - Quote Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 786	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:04:00 - [9] - Quote RAIN Arthie wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Look buddy, GD is the place for whining about Eve and the games that will kill it. Go to the DUST forums to whine about DUST and how Legion is killing it. Or the smarter answer would be to open a Legion page. Hell the valkerie- or however it's spelled- got one, not even out yet. legion is not green lite, its still a concept, we did not get a valk forum untill it was making progress In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3263	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:06:00 - [10] - Quote Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Gridloader Limitless Capabilities 5	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:07:00 - [11] - Quote I jump in because i thought project lego... noob op...
Gerald Sphinx The Irukandji The Irukandji. 69	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:08:00 - [12] - Quote DaReaper wrote: RAIN Arthie wrote: Was reading news articles on it. What I learned. 1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises. If I'm wrong let me know. 1) no not really back burnered, its just simmering. Legion is still not green lite. An some updates are coming, but they are just fixes not new stuff. 2) this has passed, most dust players that stayed have shrugged it off, at least from what i have seen 3) As we don;t have all the details, i'm going with that ccp realized they could do what they wanted or be easier to work with if the game was on pc, and they could not port. This is business 101, when you have a failure, you take what worked form it and try again. 4) No, they answered that it was in planning phases and nothing was not set yet. CCP's issue was they did not have any plans for dust, so the dust players felt cheated. 5) Legion is not green lite, its still a concept. There is a forum over on the dust forums where the feed back will be better then what eve players would give. 6) CCP is no longer doing cross platform, so who cares. 7) thats has passed, the people who got pissed and left have already left. 8) actually legion seems to be shaping up well, so the jury is still out. This.... @OP You're late. You're very, very late. Much of everyone left Dust 514 already like... 2-3 months ago.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 15836	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:10:00 - [13] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? Because: 1) gripers gonna gripe. 2) whiners gonna whine. 3) Alligators gonna alligate. 4) gotta nuke something. 5) slow news day. 6) its really not RAIN doing this, its his cat who commandeered the keyboard. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Xercodo Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering 3635	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:10:00 - [14] - Quote Arla Sarain wrote: RAIN Arthie wrote: Was reading news articles on it. What I learned. 1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises. If I'm wrong let me know. 9. No link. Outside of some other magic stuff Legion will be just a typical shooter, with a futuristic setting. Won't stop me from playing it though... I think the entire point of Legion was that they ****** up the design of the link between DUST and EVE, we got the entire DUST market in EVE and have had it for years now but nothing ever happened. They were planning on just patching it in on some big release day, a mistake they're learning from in Legion. There was a dev that could be quoted somewhere saying something along the lines of "we need to make sure that this time all the core features have to be designed in from the get go and not added later". The Drake is a Lie
Gerald Sphinx The Irukandji The Irukandji. 69	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:11:00 - [15] - Quote Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. Well, we could've gotten an X360 version as well if Microsoft wasn't so damn greedy. From what I heard, the X360 version was more stable. But that's was from a rumor and you know how rumors are.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 788	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:17:00 - [16] - Quote Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't.
Gridloader Limitless Capabilities 5	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote If ccp thought I will buy console for fps rigged to eve they were wrong.... no faqs given
Toriessian Helion Production Labs Independent Operators Consortium 253	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:25:00 - [18] - Quote Gridloader wrote: I jump in because i thought project lego... noob op... I too want to play a Lego "EVE themed" game. The lego rifter could really fly then...
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3263	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:27:00 - [19] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: 6) its really not RAIN doing this, its his cat who commandeered the keyboard. they're learning to shiptoast.....God help us all. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Hicksimus Hyperion Corporation 240	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:30:00 - [20] - Quote I'm excited for project Legroin. If Legroin learns from Ron Paul 514 it could be a solid game. I'm also still not sure what the point of Dust was. I made a post about how Dust was a flawed idea and they gave me a response about how industry professionals said it would be successful and that those professionals might know a thing or two. Yeah, really successful.....just like everything CCP does. Do you have it?
Da Dom Wii R 111	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:39:00 - [21] - Quote I will explain Dust/Legion: CoD clone What is the average attention span of FPS players? :)(:
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3263	Posted - 2014.07.28 17:57:00 - [22] - Quote Da Dom wrote: I will explain Dust/Legion: CoD clone What is the average attention span of FPS players? No it wasn't, it's crap but it's crap for its own good reasons. First among them being on console and not pc so it's immediate handicap Is the hardware, then the actual player base, then the game (which has nothing to do with cod/battle field). Imo Legion looks broadly like Destiny (in terms of concept) and depending upon the deapth of integration with eve and business model it could be rather unique. Now it's still ccp developing it so it could fail miserably but I'm tentatively hopeful. And I'm a fps player so feck off. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Gridloader Limitless Capabilities 5	Posted - 2014.07.28 18:16:00 - [23] - Quote ccp remember one thing... I am an EVE player.... everytime you try put some other title... I feel cheated.... especially when you try to put it on different platform..... I dont like that you are waisting human resources on other games You have build your player base through this 10years.... but you are gliding on the edge... really... I bet there are others that want to take your place... and they see and listen prolly this forums too... to learn from your mistakes, So stop waisting our time and start to take care of your eve players... start repairing this game... not for 2years but now, because for 2 years you may wake up with nothing and there will be only fairy tales about eve nothing more...
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 58	Posted - 2014.07.28 18:16:00 - [24] - Quote But they have now trees and lens flares.. if you only wait n+1 years it will evolve into the game you always dreamed of, seriously.. This would probably work if they would target a new audience who isn't used to CCPs way of dreaming publicly about a perfect product and delivering a underwhelming alpha version without any appealing gameplay. They probably destroyed that with Dust. If they ever plan to restart this and make some of the money they put into this project back they have to deliver something new and exciting right from the start or it will perish. Their only success is EVE so far and I think the essence of what EVE is today was actually an emergent property of how players started to use the game and was in no way planed by CCP. I mean all the build in content is pretty underwhelming, EVE is only successful because of what players do and not because CCP came up whit some innovative gameplay. Also look at what they presented about EVE Valkyrie. It was something like "It looks really awesome and you think you are in space. And now we try to figure out some gameplay for this new visual toy". I am not sure if you have a chance developing a game that is actually fun if the basic gameplay is something you still try to figure out even after you announced the game itself. Maybe I am just biter and burned from years of false promises, but at the moment I don't think either one of this projects has a chance. Despite all this I still hope they somehow manage to deliver and show me what a fool I was to doubt them. the Code ALWAYS wins
Mahadiva School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.07.28 18:26:00 - [25] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled. IMO the reason we did not care is that it's not on PC. If it were one could just alt-tab back and forth and switch between ground and space forces on the fly. Though I don't know how the interaction actually plays out. Maybe it's really rudimentary and not engaging at all.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 15842	Posted - 2014.07.28 18:27:00 - [26] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: 6) its really not RAIN doing this, its his cat who commandeered the keyboard. they're learning to shiptoast.....God help us all. It has been acknowledged by CCP that cats playing Eve is a problem, and its not considered account sharing. I don't know if cats shiptoasting on the forums is a problem, as cats tend to be less irritating than people when it comes to their opinions. To be honest, if you look at some of the threads posted recently, I would have rather read a cats first-person account of walking into the middle of a crowded room, flopping down with its leg in the air, and cleaning its anal region with its tongue for 20 minutes. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 593	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:04:00 - [27] - Quote Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I still say Sony should have nudged CCP and gave them the specs for the PS4 and asked for the release to be done on the PS4 platform.
Hiply Rustic A Private Space Venture 90	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:21:00 - [28] - Quote Caviar Liberta wrote: Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I still say Sony should have nudged CCP and gave them the specs for the PS4 and asked for the release to be done on the PS4 platform. I probably would have goofed around with it and at least tried it out had they done that. Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." *EvE: Only the stong-willied need apply.*
Souxie Alduin Anarchy in the Eve 128	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:23:00 - [29] - Quote RAIN Arthie wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Look buddy, GD is the place for whining about Eve and the games that will kill it. Go to the DUST forums to whine about DUST and how Legion is killing it. Or the smarter answer would be to open a Legion page. Hell the valkerie- or however it's spelled- got one, not even out yet. Like this one? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=1732
Bryen Verrisai EVE University Ivy League 212	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:25:00 - [30] - Quote CCP has management issues. That's not really news anymore.
Noriko Mai 1398	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:27:00 - [31] - Quote RAIN Arthie wrote: 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner Who cares about peasants?
Owen Levanth Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration 216	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:31:00 - [32] - Quote "Project Leigon", for heaven's sake, proofread what you type before your butterfinger hits the post-button! In serious news, what I heard so far about Legion sounds neat. Hopefully it won't end up like Dust: Slowly dying.
Souxie Alduin Anarchy in the Eve 128	Posted - 2014.07.28 19:33:00 - [33] - Quote RAIN Arthie wrote: Was reading news articles on it. What I learned. 1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises. If I'm wrong let me know. 1. It's on the back burner. 2. Yes, but Dust-bunnies are always pissed. 3. Dust is a lost cause on a really, really old platform. It will never be what we want it to be on PS3. 4. Welcome to Eve. 5. Wrong. See my previous post. 6. FPS on PC is superior to console. And what cross platform reputation? 7. Dust has the same number of players now as they did before fanfest. By some accounts it actually made the game more fun when all the proto-stomping bitter-vets left. 8. See point 4.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 563	Posted - 2014.07.28 20:39:00 - [34] - Quote Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I was super excited for Dust till I found out it was ps3 only. And since the PS4 is out now, they surely should have seen a change coming sometime soonGäó how long can a ps3 game be supported at this point? You can trust me, I have a monocole
Baij Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.07.28 21:11:00 - [35] - Quote I was hoping Legion would be on the ps4
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 871	Posted - 2014.07.28 22:24:00 - [36] - Quote Legion is Dust for PC, just as everyone and quite a few grandmothers wanted. Why it somehow kills Dust, when it is Dust, I dont know.
Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 1028	Posted - 2014.07.28 22:34:00 - [37] - Quote Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. And so was the premise for Dust. Fanbois almost wet themselves when they saw demos of planetary interaction. No matter what the platform they need to make a good game. Ideas alone do not equal success, the execution has to support the idea. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Malcolm Shinhwa Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 2718	Posted - 2014.07.28 22:44:00 - [38] - Quote Da Dom wrote: I will explain Dust/Legion: CoD clone What is the average attention span of FPS players? Well they've been playing Planetside and now Planetside 2 for years now. The problem isn't the attention span of the player, its the depth of the game. If we're not supposed to shoot pods in hisec, why are they filled with meat?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5159	Posted - 2014.07.29 00:04:00 - [39] - Quote For the love of God CCP please just drop this crap and let us shoot each other in stations and board ships. The players will do the rest. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1035	Posted - 2014.07.29 02:35:00 - [40] - Quote So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following. What to do next ??? I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console. yeah that should work out well
Fredfredbug4 Eve Defence Force Cult of War 2370	Posted - 2014.07.29 06:19:00 - [41] - Quote DUST 514 was Legion's Alpha test. More of a proof of concept game if anything. While DUST 514 was disappointing both to the players (and although they won't admit it, CCP) it does prove that it's possible to integrate the EVE severs with the severs of another game, even across platforms. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 791	Posted - 2014.07.29 07:10:00 - [42] - Quote Gridloader wrote: ccp remember one thing... I am an EVE player.... everytime you try put some other title... I feel cheated.... especially when you try to put it on different platform..... I dont like that you are waisting human resources on other games You have build your player base through this 10years.... but you are gliding on the edge... really... I bet there are others that want to take your place... and they see and listen prolly this forums too... to learn from your mistakes, So stop waisting our time and start to take care of your eve players... start repairing this game... not for 2years but now, because for 2 years you may wake up with nothing and there will be only fairy tales about eve nothing more... Have you not been paying attention? what do you think ccp is doing? They are repairing eve. Fixing old crap that needs a refresh or a fix, and laying the ground work for new stuff. It takes time to fix anything, but they are fixing eve now, not two years form now, now. It might just take 2 years for the average player who is not paying attention to notice. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6328	Posted - 2014.07.29 07:18:00 - [43] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following. What to do next ??? I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console. yeah that should work out well What happened to the vampire dressup game? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears. Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 791	Posted - 2014.07.29 07:19:00 - [44] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following. What to do next ??? I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console. yeah that should work out well There is a law of business that reads essentually "don't keep all your eggs in on basket" It works well for manufacturing or in this case, programing houses. White Wolf was bought in 06.. i think, might of been 05... anyway, making WoD was a BRILLIANT idea, no not sarcastic, it truly was brilliant. The issue is, if they had released it when the first set was done, and actually got something out there, they might of made money hand over fist as vampires were and still are EXTREMELY popular. The problem is, however, ccp scrapped it 3 times and started over, wrote there own engine, killed it, and bought a stock one. I don;t blame ccp for wanting to expand, for wanting to make WoD and then Dust on ps3. The issues however, is hat they screwed up with WoD and a game that should of maybe taken 2 years to complete, took 8 years before being canned. They got themselves over stretched, and i hurt them. Now they changed focus, and have 2 new games coming, but in areas that maybe they can control better. But we will see. Making WoD and Dust was smart movies in concept. Failing to get WoD out years ago, and not making Dust its full potential was stupid. If Dust had linked to eve in a meaningful way, it would of succeeded better. You would still have the eve players whining, but the point of dust was not for eve players, it was to expand and get new customers. They just should of made it so we cared. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't.
Lido Seahawk Norr Amalgamated Industries 159	Posted - 2014.07.29 07:19:00 - [45] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. May I have your stuff?
Garia666 CyberShield Inc Triumvirate. 80	Posted - 2014.07.29 07:48:00 - [46] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: For the love of God CCP please just drop this crap and let us shoot each other in stations and board ships. The players will do the rest. its called starcitizen ;)
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3304	Posted - 2014.07.29 13:50:00 - [47] - Quote Lido Seahawk wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You know you can filter them out of local right? "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Lido Seahawk Norr Amalgamated Industries 159	Posted - 2014.07.29 14:13:00 - [48] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: . You know you can filter them out of local right? Doh! Yes, of course, I knew that! What makes you think I didn't know that? I mean c'mon, everyone knows that! Sheeesh..... May I have your stuff?
Rayo Atra Aliastra Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2014.07.29 14:39:00 - [49] - Quote Its been hit on, but i wanted a "go" as well. Cross Platform! No. I am usually not a CCP critic, as they make an awesome game that ive enjoyed for over 7 years. The shooter Idea is cool, I am completely for ANYTHING that expands the New Eden Universe. Legion, Valk, hell even WIS That being said. I have no interest in playing with consoles. No interest in playing with console people. I dont want their community, ignorance, attention span, or the children that come with it. Not now, not ever. They shouldn't be here. Their supporters shouldn't be here. Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. -Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Zero Sum Gain FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem 65	Posted - 2014.07.29 17:31:00 - [50] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: 6) its really not RAIN doing this, its his cat who commandeered the keyboard. they're learning to shiptoast.....God help us all. +1 to autocorrect
Zero Sum Gain FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem 65	Posted - 2014.07.29 17:34:00 - [51] - Quote Lido Seahawk wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You can remove bunnies from your local filter
Souxie Alduin Anarchy in the Eve 132	Posted - 2014.07.29 17:37:00 - [52] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following. What to do next ??? I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console. yeah that should work out well What happened to the vampire dressup game? After 8 years of development they produced this lovely coat I'm wearing. And then they cancelled it.
RAIN Arthie The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing 353	Posted - 2014.07.29 17:45:00 - [53] - Quote Not so much upset with the whole console vs pc with it's the fact that they didn't do what they said they would. Orbital strikes eve market and DUST market come together. NEVER HAPPENED. Weather they are COD kids or hardcore EVE players I don't care. Just don't make something and tell lies. I'd prefer to FPS on console that way it removes strain from my computer so I have 2 different machines doing 2 different things.
mow hawk The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.07.29 17:56:00 - [54] - Quote Zero Sum Gain wrote: Lido Seahawk wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You can remove bunnies from your local filter Dust bunnies? harhar.
Zero Sum Gain FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem 66	Posted - 2014.07.29 19:54:00 - [55] - Quote mow hawk wrote: Zero Sum Gain wrote: Lido Seahawk wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game? The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You can remove bunnies from your local filter Dust bunnies? harhar. You've... never heard them called that?
mow hawk The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.07.29 19:56:00 - [56] - Quote No.....I haven't. I live in a cave.
Kalishka Ashkulf Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2014.07.29 20:29:00 - [57] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled. I would love to carpet bomb a planet and wreck Dust players day
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1041	Posted - 2014.07.29 23:58:00 - [58] - Quote Kalishka Ashkulf wrote: DaReaper wrote: Mahadiva wrote: Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform. When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled. I would love to carpet bomb a planet and wreck Dust players day Problem was you could only use a frigate and only if a dust bunny called you in. Generally it was simpler and more effective for the dust bunny to call in an NPC strike. Also the particular dust bunny you were speaking to could suddenly redploy and reappear somewhere 30 jumps from your current location. The eve/dust interaction was not exactly well thought out.
RAIN Arthie The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing 354	Posted - 2014.07.30 11:41:00 - [59] - Quote I would have to agree that dust players are quite dim. I like to call them COD drop outs. I hopped on yesterday hopeing for something engaging. I got my asz beat by players halo jumping and stalking spawn points. Not one person worked together and we lose time and time again. XP is very limited, even for a win. This game could have been epic.

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