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vile56
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Posted - 2006.07.08 23:38:00 -
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love my maller, does need a buff thou.
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Areconus
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Posted - 2006.07.09 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Areconus on 09/07/2006 01:05:30
The blackbird is probably very good for 1v1, notice.....i said 1vs1 beforethe flaming starts...only problem is its damage ability is kinda low...but it is very easy to survive in.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.07.09 02:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Syris Anu
...There are no anti-pirates, only pirates that don't discriminate against their own kind...
I bet this is what Blackbeard said to his First mate about the British Navy.
By definition you're wrong.
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Antonicus Sarumi
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Posted - 2006.07.09 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Portios Smith
Originally by: HippoKing
Caracals are very tempting to pirates though. The sheer number of **** pilots around is amazing. If they aren't fitting ECM, you're laughing usually.
As for the worst cruisers for PvP, take a look here, where you will see a horrible selection with the saving grace of the arbitrator.
Yea right. Nice capacitor, armor resist bonus, better armor, nice slot lay out. hell man Amarr cruisers suck they just look too good so they must suck! 
Take it you've either never flown them, or never flown anything else
I fly nothing but Amarr. Trick is you need skill to BOTH fit and fly and amarr cruiser, they are not solo OMGWTFPWNmobiles until you learn how to use them. Unlike some other races ships, which a half braindead midget could pilot.
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Permian
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Posted - 2006.07.09 12:40:00 -
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what about a ship/fit/tactic that you can use to defend yourself against a pirate when they try to gank you while you're out ratting..
..other than fitting stabs and warping out. and even then don't you have to fit at least 2 stabs to overcome a warp scrambler?
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Permian
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Posted - 2006.07.09 13:22:00 -
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seriously, i read all these 0.0 ratting setups for all kinds of ships, and none of them and i mean NONE of them ever seem to take into account that out in low spec space you can and will be ganked
"here is a perfect little setup for the perfect circumstances in this fluffy little make believe world in which everyone gets along and holds hands and drinks tea"
everyone seems to turn thier nose up at stabs, but when you're out solo'ing and a small group of pk'er jump on you, what the hell else are you going to do? die is what. "oh well at least i have my honor." please.
wait i know.. "don't solo." thank you for that little gem of infinite wisdom my life is now forever changed
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Scoundrelus
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Posted - 2006.07.09 16:19:00 -
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Anti-pirating and solo don't belong in the same sentence.
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*If you don't want me to complain about WCS then don't complain when I gank you with a 5 man fleet just so I have enough points on |
Galan Amarias
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Posted - 2006.07.09 19:23:00 -
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People dog Amarr, I don't get it, my best guess is that they are used to Amarr Ships w/o a cap charging setup. My Maller has won most of the 1v1 pvp she's been in, and I anti-pirate by trolling through the belts blasting rats till I get jumped. That means I start dammaged and only kill Pirates. If I wanted easy pvp I'd join the ranks of the low sec status and gank haulers.
Anyway, to answer the OP, in non 0.0, which is the only pirated space I've enjoyed and therfore the only space I can comment on from exp. You run into a lot of young Pirates who think their speed will save them. Fit a webber. Fit ECCM. Make sure you have a decent tank and you'll win often enough. You see a T2 <fill in the blank>, you need to hide, baring an exceptionally noobish person behind the controlls it will own you and Pirates are the most dangerous game, expect them to know their way around a fight.
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2006.07.09 20:14:00 -
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caldari navi raven tbh
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Mahavy Seth
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Posted - 2006.07.09 23:48:00 -
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I do not think pirate hunting is profitable or even doable under the current EVE standings & security system.
- Your ship need to be fast: you need to move fast to get pirates, also hunting them will bring you to a point to another of the galaxy.
- You must fit a long range scrambler: if overhelmed he will try to flee or even disconnect, ruining all the time you spent in chase him.
- Your ship need an awesome fire power: you can find a group of pirates, and as hunter, you cannot flee!!
- You need a permanet account on Pleasure Hub: you will spend much time waiting and controlling belt, warp after warp.
- You need a carebear alt: or you will lose so many money spending your time hunting the invisible guy for 0 ISK and for give to him a mere 10.000.000 damage.
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Lyticus
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Posted - 2006.07.10 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/07/2006 19:09:02
Originally by: Portios Smith
It is a thing of beauty that the vast majority of EvE players fly the worst cruiser class ships in the game. Caldari! while very good players are able to make this ships efective in solo PVP (mostly due to insane SP) most Caldari cruiser set ups are prime pirate fodder. If you want to bait a piwat nothing better than a Caracal or a Moa. Doubt you'll win but hey, most ani-ps dont solo win they gank
If you think the Caracal is a "useless" or "worst" ship, you are a fool.
A Caracal can beat any Omen, Thorax, or Stabber quite easily, and probably most Ruptures, some Mallers, and most Vexors.
In fact, the only non-EW short range cruiser I would feel comfortable engaging a properly equipped Caracal with would be one with a hybrid gank/tank setup with some sort of plate and hardeners. The Vexor, Rupture, and Maller can all fit an effective setup like this, and when they do, they are ships to be feared.
No offence Shikari, but are you serious? A caracal can never beat a well piloted and well setup thorax, if the caracal sets up EXACTLY to counter the thorax, you might have some luck, but its unlikely.
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.07.10 01:28:00 -
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there is no solo-anti pirate ship.Do what all the other AP's seem to do ..blob.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.07.10 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: xeom
there is no solo-anti pirate ship.Do what all the other AP's seem to do ..blob.
I agree, make dictor bubbles work in empire and nerf the stab!
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Horza Otho
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Posted - 2006.07.10 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/07/2006 19:09:02
Originally by: Portios Smith
It is a thing of beauty that the vast majority of EvE players fly the worst cruiser class ships in the game. Caldari! while very good players are able to make this ships efective in solo PVP (mostly due to insane SP) most Caldari cruiser set ups are prime pirate fodder. If you want to bait a piwat nothing better than a Caracal or a Moa. Doubt you'll win but hey, most ani-ps dont solo win they gank
If you think the Caracal is a "useless" or "worst" ship, you are a fool.
A Caracal can beat any Omen, Thorax, or Stabber quite easily, and probably most Ruptures, some Mallers, and most Vexors.
In fact, the only non-EW short range cruiser I would feel comfortable engaging a properly equipped Caracal with would be one with a hybrid gank/tank setup with some sort of plate and hardeners. The Vexor, Rupture, and Maller can all fit an effective setup like this, and when they do, they are ships to be feared.
i'm a victum of DS's nasty caracal, it pwns anything i fought him with :s
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Chief Seattle
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Posted - 2006.07.10 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Dominix.
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or a pilgrim or astarte, but those take insane amounts of SP to work well
i wonder if i could purchase a female sig and make some siglets..... |
Thorndin MacMorrin
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Posted - 2006.07.10 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Permian
what about a ship/fit/tactic that you can use to defend yourself against a pirate when they try to gank you while you're out ratting..
..other than fitting stabs and warping out. and even then don't you have to fit at least 2 stabs to overcome a warp scrambler?
The best tactic to defend yourself against pirates when ratting is use the "local" to know who is in system with you. If there is someone that you do not know in system you should not be in a belt, unless you're looking for a fight.
After that, use the scanner to scan from safe spots, or planets, to determine what they are flying, and then decide if you want to fight, or hide (keeping in mind that the little punisher in local could well be scouting for two BS's onthe other side of the gate).
Experienced belt pirates will be good at using a scaner to find you, and decide if you are easy pickings, a good fight, or trouble. If you sit in a belt and finish off just one more rat, you are giving the pirate enough time to asses the situation, and decide to engage or not on their terms
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MarketMouse
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Posted - 2006.07.10 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Areconus
Edited by: Areconus on 09/07/2006 01:05:30
The blackbird is probably very good for 1v1, notice.....i said 1vs1 beforethe flaming starts...only problem is its damage ability is kinda low...but it is very easy to survive in.
Blackbird gets eaten pretty fast by drone ships.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.07.10 15:02:00 -
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Basically the best ship is one that you can bait the pirate with, not too uber and fitted for pvp, many have been mentioned here, my personal one is the thorax. Oh and I don't like meeting caracals with webbers fitted  .
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2006.07.10 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: fmercury
Originally by: Portios Smith
Originally by: HippoKing
Caracals are very tempting to pirates though. The sheer number of **** pilots around is amazing. If they aren't fitting ECM, you're laughing usually.
As for the worst cruisers for PvP, take a look here, where you will see a horrible selection with the saving grace of the arbitrator.
Yea right. Nice capacitor, armor resist bonus, better armor, nice slot lay out. hell man Amarr cruisers suck they just look too good so they must suck!
Hippoking is right, amarr cruisers are crap. (apart from the arbitrator, of course)
They lack the damage, speed, and versatility of other race's cruisers.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.07.10 15:23:00 -
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The Arbitrator is like a....... mini Pilgrim for lack of a better term - without the cloak of course!
But the best solo pirating ship is the Amarr Avatar - Fit it with a doomsday and all 12km Smartbombs. Of course, the realistic choise is Recon ships or a sniper/smartbomber Battleship :)
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Elendar
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Posted - 2006.07.10 15:24:00 -
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had some fun with a rax
best one was a t1 rupture jumped in and engaged me from 1k away while i was pretending to be npcing
its a good plan to check if your opponent has ****y t1 guns or shiny t2 blasters before doing things like that
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry
Xirt must be one of the GREAT leaders in eve to keep you guys shooting shuttles in hophib
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.10 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lyticus
No offence Shikari, but are you serious? A caracal can never beat a well piloted and well setup thorax, if the caracal sets up EXACTLY to counter the thorax, you might have some luck, but its unlikely.
Perhaps you have never fought a properly fit Caracal. I have never lost to a Thorax, ever. If you want to fight me in one, call me up and we'll go on Sisi. I would not be surprised if its possible to lose to a Thorax, but the Thorax is the most common ship I've fought with my Caracal, and I have yet to lose.
Originally by: Horza Otho
i'm a victum of DS's nasty caracal, it pwns anything i fought him with :s
I thought you were the one who owned me with the Vexor? Or was that someone else?
I've lost to a platemaller Maller, a plated/hardened Rupture, and a Vexor, so its definitely not invincible, or even close .
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Synapse Archae
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Posted - 2006.07.10 18:35:00 -
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Curse/Pilgrim is a good bet.
Personally I would take a rook. DPS of a caracal, techII resists, jamming abilities of a scorpion.
The rook's only problem would be making sure the pirates didn't run away, which I suppose would be the pilgrim's strongpoint.
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Dr CapitalShip
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dr CapitalShip on 11/07/2006 08:26:41
Originally by: Mahavy Seth
- You need a permanet account on Pleasure Hub: you will spend much time waiting and controlling belt, warp after warp.
Plesure Hub? Geez, I am surprised that is still charging isk for dodgey material. What? The one armed PvPer? Is this what the Gallente call the golden handshake?
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