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Meat Missile
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:46:00 -
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Whose tested this on SISI?
If no one has, please give me an entrance to a c5 on sisi, preferebly with c5 static so I can try different effects.
mail me here and contract me a BM set for your c5 on SISI. Bulk P4 available for sale for less than Jita sell. Delivered to your highsec system of choice. Email for a quote today. |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:15:00 -
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You may want to try moveme and just ask them to move you to a WH so that you can test ****. If I remember correctly, they'll do it, but not 100% sure. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |

Borsek
A.A.A
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:39:00 -
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depends on their mood,
imho you still need lokis and a chimera/archon for the lokis, unless you intend to have no tank and web/paint with officer stuff... However they might actually be useful now, albeit a moros can take out a sleeper in 3 shots, so you better one-shot them (and still have worse cleaning rate due to damage overkill.. maybe with a clever launcher seperation - 2+1). |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:43:00 -
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Borsek wrote:depends on their mood,
imho you still need lokis and a chimera/archon for the lokis, unless you intend to have no tank and web/paint with officer stuff... However they might actually be useful now, albeit a moros can take out a sleeper in 3 shots, so you better one-shot them (and still have worse cleaning rate due to damage overkill.. maybe with a clever launcher seperation - 2+1).
I think you could get away with barebones tank if you're running it in a pulsar. I cbf to pyfa it, but with the resist bonus, you might be okay skimping on some tank. If you're webbing on a dread you'll still probably want links though. Make sure to stock up on crash and blue pill as well.
Another option to get in is parking a character in a random C5 before a mirror. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |

O'nira
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:25:00 -
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You could possibly do it with a 3 rigors(2 t2) and 6% implant and a strong crash booster bringing your explosionradius down to 805.
i dont see a reason to use it though over a moros.( for pve) |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:05:00 -
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O'nira wrote:You could possibly do it with a 3 rigors(2 t2) and 6% implant and a strong crash booster bringing your explosionradius down to 805.
i dont see a reason to use it though over a moros.( for pve)
If you have a perfectly specced missile pilot that you want to move to a dread is the only good one I can think of. Also those resists. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |

Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:41:00 -
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phoenix hits BSs for max damage with 2 webs and 2 faction paints from a max skill rapier if it's rigor rigged. if it's not rigor rigged you still only need 2 webs but you need 4 paints to get almost max dps. if youre using a loki you need 3 paints, or ewar strength fleet boosts.
max dps on the phoenix is about 11k without implants so it still does less dps than a moros. here's a graph:
http://i.imgur.com/3dOou16.jpg
(the target in the graph is a megathron fit out to have the same sig and base speed as sleeper guardians.)
PS: note that these numbers are at max webbed down speed. moros will do similar dps while target is slowing down, phoenix will not. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |

Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:38:00 -
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^^ If your going to do it at all always do it with max infowar links for target painter bonuses heh |

Amarr Citizen 000001
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:56:00 -
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If you ONLY have a phoenix? Yes you can run sites. Is it worse then the other dreads? Probably. If it was better then the other dreads would the amount of bullshit you'd have to set up be worth it? No. |

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2014.07.30 04:18:00 -
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Now we've got the real intelligentsia posting on here! J's before K's. Sudden Buggery is recruiting w-nerds and w-noobs. Mail your resume in today! http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Shadow Tycho
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:12:00 -
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just want a c5 to run some tests in. not eft warrior on phoenixes. :P
all the theory is worthless if you can't prove it anyway. |

Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:59:00 -
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Shadow Tycho wrote:just want a c5 to run some tests in. not eft warrior on phoenixes. :P
all the theory is worthless if you can't prove it anyway.
Eft warrioring is almost exactly the same as testing. The game works on mathematics equations. EFT uses those mathematics equations to tell you what will happen.
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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
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Posted - 2014.07.30 12:59:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:Eft warrioring is almost exactly the same as testing. The game works on mathematics equations. EFT uses those mathematics equations to tell you what will happen. It's amazing how many people refuse to believe this. There are some things you need to account for, but EFT warrioring is almost the same as doing it for real... if the player makes no mistakes. I especially love the people who believe that testing something on the test server doesn't count also.
Anyways, as someone who has used a Phoenix to run c6 sites, I'll just say this: Don't. It simply isn't worth the hassle. If it's the only dreadnaught you have, it'll make you some ISK, but it will be slow, painful and slooooow.
Citadel Torpedos simply take too long to get from launch to boom, require more support than gun dreads do (for blapping sleepers) and still don't do enough damage when all that support is in place.
The Phoenix is good for blapping towers and other capitals. It is not good for blapping Sleepers. |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:16:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Now we've got the real intelligentsia posting on here!
You're too kind)) If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |

Archemorus Abyss
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:21:00 -
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The phoenix is quite good at blapping those pesky ishtars.
Though not so much sleepers. Better off just sticking like 6 paints on the thing and just paint a bunch of sleepers for your other dreads |

ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:05:00 -
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Phoenixes are good for blapping T3s too. but not Sleepers.
We threw a phoenix into our pve fleet just to see how it works, targets that were webbed down, and painted twice yielded nice dmg, but not enough to make it better than turret dreads The Wormhole Kid |

Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:48:00 -
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Shadow Tycho wrote:just want a c5 to run some tests in. not eft warrior on phoenixes. :P
all the theory is worthless if you can't prove it anyway. mhmm, you keep telling yourself that mate. judging by the last few posts, I spent 5min in EFT to figure out exactly what they found out by actually running site with the phoenix: it work, just not great. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
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