Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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K, and other alliances dosent have a head up agains BoBs "take all 0.0 regions goal"?

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Originally by: Nifel

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I believe most alliances still don't believe us when we say this. Hence they're happily toodling along in their own little part of the universe playing with other toddlers instead of growing up and see the very real threat looming on the horizon that's us.

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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Just wondering why BoB has started to become (or is) an hostile entity?
Do BoB have NBSI status??

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Originally by: Blacklight

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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Just wondering why BoB has started to become (or is) an hostile entity?
Do BoB have NBSI status??

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You're in our space, you can tell it's our space becuase of the little 0.0 marker on your screen

If you would like to pay us to live in our space then we may be able to stop shooting at you, contact someone like me to discuss.

P.S. we are very happy to just keep shooting you so please don't feel obliged to pay.

P.P.S. alliance rates are available

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Originally by: Astasia Orian

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This thread has real potential to go places!

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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nice to know, but it wasent your space. more like Pure Blind

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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Originally by: Blacklight

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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Just wondering why BoB has started to become (or is) an hostile entity?
Do BoB have NBSI status??

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You're in our space, you can tell it's our space becuase of the little 0.0 marker on your screen

If you would like to pay us to live in our space then we may be able to stop shooting at you, contact someone like me to discuss.

P.S. we are very happy to just keep shooting you so please don't feel obliged to pay.

P.P.S. alliance rates are available

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nice to know, but it wasent your space. more like Pure Blind

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Originally by: Blacklight

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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nice to know, but it wasent your space. more like Pure Blind

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As I said, you were in our space.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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Just wondering why BoB has started to become (or is) an hostile entity?
Do BoB have NBSI status??

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You're in our space, you can tell it's our space becuase of the little 0.0 marker on your screen

If you would like to pay us to live in our space then we may be able to stop shooting at you, contact someone like me to discuss.

P.S. we are very happy to just keep shooting you so please don't feel obliged to pay.

P.P.S. alliance rates are available

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Originally by: Coupo

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Originally by: Astasia Orian

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This thread has real potential to go places!

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i can see it going down the pan like most bob threads do :(
Just wait for the bob haters to log in.

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Originally by: Shonju Tsugoki

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While BoB has a certain amount of ships/personnel at their disposal, that amount is still quite minuscule when compared to that needed to maintain sovereignity over what, a thousand star systems or more?

So the threat of BoB conquering all, or even half of 0.0 space is actually non-existant. The best they can do is fly all over the place shooting people. Not only that anyone can do that, but even so they'll eventually stretch too thin and start losing more ships than they'll make... as it is, the ultimate fate of all would-be galactic conquerors.

But of course, everyone is welcome to their delusions. And I doubt any words of mine could sway some opinions. Would-be galactic conquerors usually don't sway in their opinions untill it's too late for all their henchmen. ;)

P.S. You might find that politics might go farther than guns in this regard.

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Originally by: Shonju Tsugoki

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While BoB has a certain amount of ships/personnel at their disposal, that amount is still quite minuscule when compared to that needed to maintain sovereignity over what, a thousand star systems or more?

So the threat of BoB conquering all, or even half of 0.0 space is actually non-existant. The best they can do is fly all over the place shooting people. Not only that anyone can do that, but even so they'll eventually stretch too thin and start losing more ships than they'll make... as it is, the ultimate fate of all would-be galactic conquerors.

But of course, everyone is welcome to their delusions. And I doubt any words of mine could sway some opinions. Would-be galactic conquerors usually don't sway in their opinions untill it's too late for all their henchmen. ;)

P.S. You might find that politics might go farther than guns in this regard.

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yes they do have the power but making such actions by shooting ppl here and there ****ing ppl off will only lead to its downfall. seen it, and it will happen again. bob PR image is not that pretty. smacktalking alot, being like brats just beacuse they are big bad and ugly. havent seen any mature BoBs so far, doubt i will. shooting all they can see.

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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smartest thread so far.
yes they do have the power but making such actions by shooting ppl here and there ****ing ppl off will only lead to its downfall. seen it, and it will happen again. bob PR image is not that pretty. smacktalking alot, being like brats just beacuse they are big bad and ugly. havent seen any mature BoBs so far, doubt i will. shooting all they can see.

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Originally by: Midiana

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Edited by: Midiana on 10/07/2006 01:28:23

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yes they do have the power but making such actions by shooting ppl here and there ****ing ppl off will only lead to its downfall. seen it, and it will happen again. bob PR image is not that pretty. smacktalking alot, being like brats just beacuse they are big bad and ugly. havent seen any mature BoBs so far, doubt i will. shooting all they can see.

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I'd just like to add a note here to say, BoB engaged FLA and IRON forces in Deklien on Sunday night, They jumped a large gang into 0-2 and the fight was one of the most intense i've seen for a long time.

They willingly leapt into a bubbled gatecamp with the defenders at favourable ranges and engaged.

They fought with alot of skill and honour and despite them coming out on top it was an excellent fight with heavy losses on both sides.

Everyone in eve has an opinion on BoB be it founded or unfounded, but if nothing else I now have the opinion I respect their PVP'rs who engaged us and look forward to future engagements like it.

Yes BoB are hostile, grow a pair, form a fleet and engage them.

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Originally by: Chewan Mesa

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I'm no expert in strategic information concerning BoB's exact Power, but I guess you arent either.

So, if they are able to destroy other entities in EVE who would pose a threat to them, basically elimination competition, both militarily and economically, wouldnt that come close to what they aim for?

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Originally by: Midiana

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Yes BoB are hostile, grow a pair, form a fleet and engage them.

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Originally by: Nifel

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I believe most alliances still don't believe us when we say this. Hence they're happily toodling along in their own little part of the universe playing with other toddlers instead of growing up and see the very real threat looming on the horizon that's us.

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Originally by: Shonju Tsugoki

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Originally by: Chewan Mesa

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I'm no expert in strategic information concerning BoB's exact Power, but I guess you arent either.

So, if they are able to destroy other entities in EVE who would pose a threat to them, basically elimination competition, both militarily and economically, wouldnt that come close to what they aim for?

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I don't have to know the exact composition, strength or skill of the pilots in their fleet. I am simply drawing a conclusion based on logical process that is inevitable from the logistical side of things. BoB cannot field a large enough force to *control* all of 0.0 space. They might be able to if they had an excellent PR rating and assimilated corporations via agreements and politics. Guns won't help them much in this. Sure, they make pretty explosions, but, ah well, just look at the map and see how many systems BoB actually controls. Compare that to the rest. It's less than 5%.

As for elimination of competition, I also seriously doubt BoB is capable of annihilating every alliance out there. Besides, we are looking here to a kind of lull which is ultimately self-destructive for BoB. The more threat they pose to the rest of EVE, the sooner they invite global recognition of that threat, which will likely result in a formation of a "Super-Alliance", formal or informal, which will smash their 5% down, if not annihilate it.

I am, however, quite certain BoB would welcome the "challenge" graciously. I hope they will welcome the inevitable defeat just as graciously too.

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Originally by: Midiana

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Edited by: Midiana on 10/07/2006 01:28:23

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yes they do have the power but making such actions by shooting ppl here and there ****ing ppl off will only lead to its downfall. seen it, and it will happen again. bob PR image is not that pretty. smacktalking alot, being like brats just beacuse they are big bad and ugly. havent seen any mature BoBs so far, doubt i will. shooting all they can see.

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I'd just like to add a note here to say, BoB engaged FLA and IRON forces in Deklien on Sunday night, They jumped a large gang into 0-2 and the fight was one of the most intense i've seen for a long time.

They willingly leapt into a bubbled gatecamp with the defenders at favourable ranges and engaged.

They fought with alot of skill and honour and despite them coming out on top it was an excellent fight with heavy losses on both sides.

Everyone in eve has an opinion on BoB be it founded or unfounded, but if nothing else I now have the opinion I respect their PVP'rs who engaged us and look forward to future engagements like it.

Yes BoB are hostile, grow a pair, form a fleet and engage them.

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Originally by: Box Fresh

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Edited by: Box Fresh on 10/07/2006 09:58:50

Originally by: Midiana

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Yes BoB are hostile, grow a pair, form a fleet and engage them.

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Or don't grow a pair and borrow irons.

FLA are starting to get the impression that they are important in the recent events. That will be a fatal error.

Edit: missed an s off events :)

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Originally by: Midiana

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Yea we don't compare to the most of the pvp outfits in this world but if you come knocking at the door i'm gonna push you off the doorstep the best I can.

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Of course what a lot of people fail to realise is that BoB do not have to hold the space they take. Basically all they have to do is to be able to manage power projection (somthing they do very well) and to set up a vassal state holding the region they take.

For an example look at FIX and Querious, very few BoB holding the region and indeed a few POS have gone offline due to lack of fuel and sov lost but the power projection they wield has stopped another entity moving in. Thus the combined strategies of power projection and puppet states will allow BoB to control a lot more of EVE than their numbers would initially suggest.

So as posted above, don't think they won't be knocking on your doorstep.

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Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Of course what a lot of people fail to realise is that BoB do not have to hold the space they take. Basically all they have to do is to be able to manage power projection (somthing they do very well) and to set up a vassal state holding the region they take.

For an example look at FIX and Querious, very few BoB holding the region and indeed a few POS have gone offline due to lack of fuel and sov lost but the power projection they wield has stopped another entity moving in. Thus the combined strategies of power projection and puppet states will allow BoB to control a lot more of EVE than their numbers would initially suggest.

So as posted above, don't think they won't be knocking on your doorstep.

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Want to Sell Clue.

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Of course what a lot of people fail to realise is that BoB do not have to hold the space they take. Basically all they have to do is to be able to manage power projection (somthing they do very well) and to set up a vassal state holding the region they take.

So as posted above, don't think they won't be knocking on your doorstep.

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Originally by: Shonju Tsugoki

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Of course what a lot of people fail to realise is that BoB do not have to hold the space they take. Basically all they have to do is to be able to manage power projection (somthing they do very well) and to set up a vassal state holding the region they take.

So as posted above, don't think they won't be knocking on your doorstep.

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Now that's politics. :)

But I stand by what I said. The collapse of BoB is inevitable, because it is an organization bent on ultimate conquest. Such goals are always self-destructive, for two reasons:

1. they either accumulate so much hate from everyone else that they band up together (and I am NOT talking about a few alliances banding up togeter - try a dozen alliances for more feel) and crush them.

2. they defeat everyone else and are left in a kind of power vacuum where there are no real enemies to fight. The external projection of power is thus introverted and becomes an internal struggle FOR power between inevitable factions within BoB.

In either case the fragmentation and eventual collapse of BoB is inevitable. Mark my words, here and now, and remember them when they come true.

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Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Of course what a lot of people fail to realise is that BoB do not have to hold the space they take. Basically all they have to do is to be able to manage power projection (somthing they do very well) and to set up a vassal state holding the region they take.

For an example look at FIX and Querious, very few BoB holding the region and indeed a few POS have gone offline due to lack of fuel and sov lost but the power projection they wield has stopped another entity moving in. Thus the combined strategies of power projection and puppet states will allow BoB to control a lot more of EVE than their numbers would initially suggest.

So as posted above, don't think they won't be knocking on your doorstep.

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Want to Sell Clue.

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Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Of course what a lot of people fail to realise is that BoB do not have to hold the space they take. Basically all they have to do is to be able to manage power projection (somthing they do very well) and to set up a vassal state holding the region they take.

For an example look at FIX and Querious, very few BoB holding the region and indeed a few POS have gone offline due to lack of fuel and sov lost but the power projection they wield has stopped another entity moving in. Thus the combined strategies of power projection and puppet states will allow BoB to control a lot more of EVE than their numbers would initially suggest.

So as posted above, don't think they won't be knocking on your doorstep.

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Originally by: Petwraith

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Please do not flame. This discussion is moving towards political grounds, which is not allowed. Please be careful or the almighty *clickehty* will appear.

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Originally by: Mr Abbadon

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Just wondering why BoB has started to become (or is) an hostile entity?
Do BoB have NBSI status??




Regards

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Originally by: Su'Kar Vladen

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I'll need to see more (a lot more) (a lot lot more) than 1 or 2 BoB ships running hard and fast through Omist once a week before I stop laughing at their "If it's 0.0, we own it" attitude. . . The years slowly pass. Yet, no action. . .

I have yet to even flintch for my Safe Spot while Hulk mining when BoB enters the system. Oh wouldn't you know it, not one single Isk earned in Omist ever sees a BoB Wallet. . . . and good luck changing that.

If your CEO or Alliance Leaders fail to rally and stand against an oncomming threat, simply join an Alliance that will. The threat will be addressed, en masse . . .

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Originally by: Othnark

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IRON/FLA that was a sweet fight.

To clarify a wee bit....

we jump in 11 BS they have 19, we loose 4 they loose i think 17 + carrier.
REGARDLESS

was a great fight :)

all your stations are belong to us

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