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Nylian
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:11:00 -
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Please!
I move around quite a bit, due to the nature of my job so it's difficult for me to get something shipped somewhere. Make E-ON magazine purchase-able digitally. I would happily pay the same amount for a .pdf of the old issues. Especially #1 since I can't even get it anymore :(
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:14:00 -
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No.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:17:00 -
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Bad topic. You will make everybody read your post because they think EON has a pdf version.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:19:00 -
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And that would be awfully great.
Even if you had to be online to read it with some personalized authorisation - like only available from your account and in the ingame browser ...
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:21:00 -
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Still no.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Avon
Still no.
Erm why? Costs CCP less money, people who own the magazine on paper can still flog them on ebay for a fortune, it can be taken anywhere with you, and allows more people to find out what's going on.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:28:00 -
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There's a downside to my envisioned version.
You could not read it during downtime or on the bus, plane or train.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Avon
Still no.
Erm why? Costs CCP less money, people who own the magazine on paper can still flog them on ebay for a fortune, it can be taken anywhere with you, and allows more people to find out what's going on.
I dont see why anyone would buy it if it was available as pdf...it would show up on file sharing networks everywhere.
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Avon
Still no.
Erm why? Costs CCP less money, people who own the magazine on paper can still flog them on ebay for a fortune, it can be taken anywhere with you, and allows more people to find out what's going on.
coz he likes to argue peoples point and put his 2 penny's worth in for the sake of it and on top of that not even give a reason as to why not pfft.
I think its a good idea, though i can see why ccp would not opt for this idea, to easy to copy and send to some of your m8's...
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Nylian
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:33:00 -
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Aye tachy, but perhaps they could do some sort of offline "sign in" to prevent mass copyright infringement that usually goes with a digital item.
For example, you get it in say .pdf, but in order to read it you need to sign in to it with your username/pw, that is updated via eve-online site should you change your pw. If that wouldn't stop someone from copyright infringement, I don't know what would. =D
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:35:00 -
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It'd be ripped an on the net in seconds.
I paid for mine, you pay for yours, but dont put them on the net... at 10 quid (English) a mag, without the poster because "I"m not a subscriber" (Thats bull btw) I want them to tay pay to get only... plus its nice to have the actual mag in your hand.
Poster shouldnt ****ing me subscriber only though.
Izo Azlion.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nylian
Aye tachy, but perhaps they could do some sort of offline "sign in" to prevent mass copyright infringement that usually goes with a digital item.
For example, you get it in say .pdf, but in order to read it you need to sign in to it with your username/pw, that is updated via eve-online site should you change your pw. If that wouldn't stop someone from copyright infringement, I don't know what would. =D
No, I went a step further. Digital issue available to read through the ingame-browser only when you're logged into the game. And I would not have a problem if it became available 4 months after the printed version. At the moment the stories and guides are only available if you bought the printed version.
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Nylian
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Posted - 2006.07.10 16:40:00 -
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No no I agree something would have to be done to take care of the mass file-sharing that would go on. I know iTunes does it rather well with their music downloads.
I agree with you though, I would love to have the magazine in hand. Right now I have them being sent to a friends house in spain, but I'm working Arizona state atm... will be some time before I can get to them. :(
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Niccolado Starwalker
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Posted - 2006.07.10 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 10/07/2006 17:18:36
Originally by: Nylian
Please!
I move around quite a bit, due to the nature of my job so it's difficult for me to get something shipped somewhere. Make E-ON magazine purchase-able digitally. I would happily pay the same amount for a .pdf of the old issues. Especially #1 since I can't even get it anymore :(
CCP Hear me! I love this game!
I would say no to this.
In a world today filled with digital "everything" its a nice thing to have something material. To have something to read on in bed before sleep, or on travels, to lunch and breakfast? yes at any moments, when you want to have a rest from your computer screen but not a rest from EVE!
I got my magazine today. I came home from work at 5pm as usual (i live in Norway), found my E-ON edition in the mailbox, and while I had dinner (pizza and 2 cans of coke..) I read the great article about Chribba and his everlasting love for veldspar and eve-files.com (page 28 to 31), the interview with Noah "hammer" Ward and Kari Gunnarson aka Caiman. and their workdays at CCP.
All in all. E-ON magazine is a superb utility to the world of EVE we all live and breathe in. Interviews with maggot and Jade Constantine? It all set flavour to the game.
So leave the magazine as a magazine.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.10 17:16:00 -
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Here's a slightly better idea then (one that was hinted at when the magazine was launched) - put the back issues online as a PDF one year after their release.
TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS
- In Rust We Trust -
Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine?
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.07.10 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: MOOstradamus on 10/07/2006 17:18:32
Originally by: Avon
Still no.
Super NO x NEVER EVER 
*EDIT: Hang on .. its already purchaseable digitally however I do not want a digital copy of EON *
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.07.10 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Here's a slightly better idea then (one that was hinted at when the magazine was launched) - put the back issues online as a PDF one year after their release.
20 years after release otherwise see post above.
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.07.10 18:03:00 -
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They've already said this wouldn't happen and why, use eve-search.
As for the poster, it's called a subscriber benefit. If you want the magazine and the poster, pony up and pay for the subscription. We paid up front for it, that's why per issue people don't get it.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.10 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kylania
They've already said this wouldn't happen and why, use eve-search.
As for the poster, it's called a subscriber benefit. If you want the magazine and the poster, pony up and pay for the subscription. We paid up front for it, that's why per issue people don't get it.
They too said they'll make at least guides guides and other directly game-related articles available for all pilots later - only to row back when EON #1 was about to become unavailable. 'to make it a collector's item' ... And you didn't read the Op's post at all.
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Thaylon Sen
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:00:00 -
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Yes please. Especialy the old editions no longer in print 
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:16:00 -
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NEVER!!!!!!
collectibles arnt collectibles if they can be produced ad infinitum. The second anything like this happens, it instantly devalues anyones hard copy.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:15:00 -
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While I'd like a pdf of EON 1 and 2, no.
One person will buy it, then they'll host it, and everyone will download it, and CCP will lose money and say screw it.
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Xrak
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:18:00 -
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Negatory!
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Nylian
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Posted - 2006.07.10 21:01:00 -
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Wow suprised how many people aren't for it.
For those of you worried about the whole copyright infringement, I addressed that earlier.
For those of you saying that you like your hardcopy because you can hold it in your hot little hands, I never said to make it ONLY digital. I like having a hardcopy too.
But how am I, a late-game joiner able to read the first issue of this great magazine then? I've looked on ebay to no avail, etc.
That's all I'm getting at really. Eventually I'll be able to pick up my copies from my friend in spain, but issue #1? :(
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.07.10 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nylian
But how am I, a late-game joiner able to read the first issue of this great magazine then? I've looked on ebay to no avail, etc.
You aren't. Well not unless you're wiling to pay for an all expenses round trip and then I might be convinced to bring mine over and let you read it for + hour
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Nylian
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Posted - 2006.07.10 22:34:00 -
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Where ya from? ;D
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.10 22:38:00 -
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lol, ten quid for a magazine, you all got fleeced.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.10 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Novarei
lol, ten quid for a magazine, you all got fleeced.
Umm, that's about 1x fastfood per month less.
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.10 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Originally by: Novarei
lol, ten quid for a magazine, you all got fleeced.
Umm, that's about 1x fastfood per month less.
I dont want to know what size fast food orders you are into for ú10 a pop >.<'
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Sosus Red
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Posted - 2006.07.10 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nylian
Please!
I move around quite a bit, due to the nature of my job so it's difficult for me to get something shipped somewhere. Make E-ON magazine purchase-able digitally. I would happily pay the same amount for a .pdf of the old issues. Especially #1 since I can't even get it anymore :(
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Niccolado Starwalker
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Posted - 2006.07.11 07:56:00 -
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Trivia from E-On nr. 4...
Did you all know that Chribba have a shirt with the text Veldspar on... 
That guy seriously need treatment! 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Novarei
Originally by: Tachy
Originally by: Novarei
lol, ten quid for a magazine, you all got fleeced.
Umm, that's about 1x fastfood per month less.
I dont want to know what size fast food orders you are into for ú10 a pop >.<'
One issue per 3 months. Don't forget about public transport, fuel, ... Some pilots do not have a Ryddburger around the corner.
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Nylian
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sosus Red
Originally by: Nylian
Please!
I move around quite a bit, due to the nature of my job so it's difficult for me to get something shipped somewhere. Make E-ON magazine purchase-able digitally. I would happily pay the same amount for a .pdf of the old issues. Especially #1 since I can't even get it anymore :(
CCP Hear me! I love this game!
Your either a drug dealer or a spy, hehe
I wish, then I'd be making serious money =o
Actually I work for the largest cruise travel agency in the U.S. they send me to all their seminars to make sure everything is going smoothly in the introduction. Anywho. Digital d/l and authoring ftw!
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Viktor Beck
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
NEVER!!!!!!
collectibles arnt collectibles if they can be produced ad infinitum. The second anything like this happens, it instantly devalues anyones hard copy.
A gaming magazine is hardly a collectable.
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:33:00 -
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You can digitally sign pdfs and it cannot be removed. They can sign it to your account so if you leak it, bye bye account.
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Hori To
Kinda'Shujaa
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:46:00 -
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what's to stop someone from making a decent scan?
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.30 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hori To
what's to stop someone from making a decent scan?
People who buy it seem to be very loyal fans or if have scanned have only shared it with a few people.
Also you have to note that scans are easy to stop being spread on these forums.
PDFs are just annoying. But also hardcoding it with DRM REALLY doesn't help.
Anything that requires a monitor, or speakers to output a medium can be used to via analog break the DRM. (funny how low tech can easily beat high tech eh?)
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Enmel
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Posted - 2006.12.30 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Beck
A gaming magazine is hardly a collectable.
I'd argue differently. I really really regret not getting the previous EON editions.
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Castellum
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Posted - 2006.12.30 02:26:00 -
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Quote:
lol, ten quid for a magazine, you all got fleeced.
Word.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.30 02:32:00 -
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I cannot remember where, but there's an online gaming magazine somewhere (Zap? or something), they upload PDF's, and a flash-like viewer opens up that allows you to actually flip the pages with your mouse. Something like that would be really easy to encode into a login/account system wherein you purchase a copy, and you can read it online. Something like this doesn't sound bad at all, as many of us players move around a lot all the time.
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Kylania
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:26:00 -
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Bad necro. Misleading thread title. Settled topic. 
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:40:00 -
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Woah, i think this is the first time ive ever seen the original poster necro his own thread. I mean if it had gotten a positive reaction i can kind of see why you would necro it. But this doesnt make any sense. 
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nylian
Aye tachy, but perhaps they could do some sort of offline "sign in" to prevent mass copyright infringement that usually goes with a digital item.
And that stops people from print-screening it?
EON won't ever be electronic. Maybe after 6 months or so Zap might want to consider an electronic sale of some sort, but who knows. PersonallyI just order EON if I think it's worth it.
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The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Lubricity
Solidline Enterprise
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: MysticNZ
You can digitally sign pdfs and it cannot be removed. They can sign it to your account so if you leak it, bye bye account.
Digitally sign? Cannot be removed? I lol'd.
Within hours of a .pdf version being released, it would be all over the torrent networks.
I am against this now, just as I was against it 5 months ago when this thread first appeared. Necro'ing ftl.
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Jin Jemai
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.30 04:01:00 -
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For those saying that if it was available in PDF that it would be pirated within hours... you do realize that anyone that owns an issue could just as easily scan it and upload it right? It's really not a valid argument against the idea.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.30 04:42:00 -
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¼_¼
CCP don't make EON, you're asking the wrong people. MMM Publishing make EON, CCP just help with most of the articles and proof-read it for glaring mistakes.
As much as I like CCP, you're giving credit for this great mag to a group of people who do not deserve it.
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