Where are we at in this conversation?

Lol? Please point out where exactly it is I claim to be important.

Claiming that rebirth were a bunch of nobodies isn't the same as claiming importance.

Good at what exactly? From looking around, Rebirth seemed to only be good at crying on the forums and disbanding, yet according to NightmareX, they beat every single high sec PvP group to the point that most of them disbanded, and everyone would refuse to fight. Due to the lack of fights Rebirth were forced to disband because everyone else was too scared. That must also include Marmite. Apparently you guys got much better with the introduction of rebirth guys, so thank god they came and joined you though.

Yes, and I was responding to the first part. The second part was you just mumbling about how my opinions are moot because :reasons:. Believe it or not, you actually aren't the guy that decides who's opinions are valid.

I get that you want to leap in to defend your teammate, but seriously, go and read up some of the stuff he's been saying and you may want to reconsider. I mean you guys may as well be cannon fodder for the rebirth core group that still exists within Marmite correcting your inabilities to fit ships, FC fleets and fight empire wars.

Uhh, no, I legitimately did not see a point to answer. Perhaps your could rephrase the point you wish me to answer here, and I'll give it a go.

So is that a no, you aren't going to let me know what these "points" are?

It's a simple question bro, and in no way a trick. If you wanted something answered, I didn't see it and it certainly had no question marks, but by all means let me know what it was and I'll answer it.

Oh I see. Well most of my highsec PvP is done on spies, so not really much to show without burning alts. I've been on marmite fleets though :D

But no, overall I probably don't have the wealth of experience in highsec PvP that someone like yourself has, but then does that make my opinion worth any less? I'm not a chef either, but I can tell if I go to a restaurant and the meal is ****.

No, rebirth was so predictable back then and doesn't exist now. But this thread isn't about that. Please get back on topic.

We can do that now Nightmare has been dunked.

So when's the next fight occurring? Might even have to drop an alt into RvB for it.

:p
You're (marmite) mostly hub campers, perhaps you are an exception, who knows. And I apologise now for hurting your feelings.

And I am trying, this guy just never relents with his nonsense.

Yup cause it seems more like he crushed you. I recall you could of created your own thread but being stupid you continued for 5 pages. How's those battleships?
Can't wait for rvb to pod you.
Your welcome brought you back to topic.

The reasons why marmite gets dunked are simple

1.) They have no Fc who fought battles against enemys that Shooting back !

2.) Their Players cant handle their Ships in real Combat Situations.

and thats it

Shut up about crappy rebirth already, god squad is nothing now and was nothing then, get on topic Lucas Kell.

Prior to 2012 CCP didn't log those separately, so you wouldn't be able to see without boiling down zkb. Why exactly do you have such a hardon over these numbers? Go look at zkb. CCP have confirmed at fanfest that they are like 98% accurate, and their war stats are pulled directly from CCP. Better yet, look at the CREST export for their wars (or you can use zKBs war tab) and look at the wars in game.

Except that's not what he's claiming, he's claiming prior to 2013 was when these disbands occurred. He's also claiming first hand knowledge. So why the hell would I go digging about in figures after it happened or before he joined?

In addition, prior to 2010, there's no kill data for wars on CREST, so you'd have to filter through the entire list of wars, assuming every war had kills (which they wouldn't), then later go back through manually checking for kills once you've filtered out the non-disbanded corps.

Why would looking at a bigger date range suddenly be more accurate than looking at figures that CCP provide? How does that make any sense whatsoever?

Is it any wonder marmite and co are getting slaughtered by rvb when they have retards like nightmare fatality x or whatever name he's trying to go by today. This thread pretty much sums up why most of my alliance outright refuse to work with said merc conglomerate.