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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.07.11 07:38:00 -
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What is up with the speed penalties and advanced missles and tech II launchers...
I load wraith precisions with what the mod describes as a 20% penalty per launcher loaded...
I load ONE tech II launcher with 27 wraith precisions... My raven goes from 142km a sec to 75.7 km a sec...
I say WTF?..and unload this garbage...guess what..with all missles unloaded from launchers my raven now flys only 90.1ms.
So i head to dock and repackage my tech II cruise launchers...and viola my speed returns to 142ms
but wait...i load up some tech II PARADISE AGAIN (NOT the ones with a speed penalty) and guess what... my ravens back to 90.1ms
anyone else see this happening or have similiar issue and found a resolution??
its not like this is a 5 day skill....and i have also gone as far as gaining advanced heavies also...and i here recently a few pilots saying similiar things about heavy missles...
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.11 07:44:00 -
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I think the penalties on most tech 2 weapons is too severe. The guns/launchers require more power/cpu than the tech 1 versions and also some of the ammo have severe penalties. It hits for extra damage, yes, but the disadvantages makes it not worth it sometimes.
Just look at Hail (tech 2 projectile ammo) which makes any speedy minnie ship crawl when loaded. I dont think anyone use this ammo unless they are sitting still, trying to kill some extreme armor tank.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.11 07:52:00 -
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Hey, someone is fiddling with T2 ammunitions.
The precision light missiles do not have those puny 500m/s explosion velicity any longer! (At least in the Item Database to the left. Can't check ingame at the moment.) --*=*=*--
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.07.11 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 11/07/2006 08:54:25
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I think the penalties on most tech 2 weapons is too severe. The guns/launchers require more power/cpu than the tech 1 versions and also some of the ammo have severe penalties. It hits for extra damage, yes, but the disadvantages makes it not worth it sometimes.
Just look at Hail (tech 2 projectile ammo) which makes any speedy minnie ship crawl when loaded. I dont think anyone use this ammo unless they are sitting still, trying to kill some extreme armor tank.
Jim, I can agree here but overall my above issue is more then balancing..it is completely hosed ....ill unload all my mods and repackage everything this time....including the ship...
I hope it works out, kinda bummed and want to fly my raven again. I can only tackle in my scorp. Mission running is slower now also...  
If repackageing the ship is not successful ill just live with t1 missle and launchers until its no longer fubar.
I ran Paradise precisions for a month with no issues. This all occured the moment I instaled advanced precision wraith cruise missles in the same tech II launchers on the same raven.
when i repackaged the launchers and remounted them and my speed finally returned. Before that, no matter what I did (including docking logging and jumping systems) normal speed would not return. Now Any T2 advanced missles lowers my speed ALOT.
I may buy another set of T2 launchers, not load wraiths but load paradise, to see if the issues ends...and see if the launchers or ship are smacking me   Blackhole Bob CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.11 09:46:00 -
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Does your Raven really need to move at all? Its a battleship, its slow.
Precision missiles are fine and quite useful: without the speed penalty they would be vastly overpowered.
Every type of T2 ammo has a use.
By the way, I use T2 missiles all the time and have never had the problem you've described, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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Clonebabe
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Does your Raven really need to move at all? Its a battleship, its slow.
Precision missiles are fine and quite useful: without the speed penalty they would be vastly overpowered.
Every type of T2 ammo has a use.
By the way, I use T2 missiles all the time and have never had the problem you've described, so I don't know what you're talking about.
i think the ops issue isnt so much the speed penalty as such, but the fact even after he empties the launchers, ie, none in them, he still has a speed hit
which sounds like a bug, the launcher doesnt realise its empty or something
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.11 13:01:00 -
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The bug must be new in the last patch. I haven't used them since then (flown tacklers mostly, not my caracal) so I haven't had a chance to see this new bug.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Does your Raven really need to move at all?
IT does if there's a Dread shooting at you.
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.07.11 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 11/07/2006 16:46:22 I am not the only one with this issue...
It is not about the penalties...its about them just being plain broke...for me...
check out this post i just dug up....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=362636
identical issue on caracals showing up...
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Warp away
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Posted - 2006.07.11 17:35:00 -
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Bob, Bob, why all the ellipses?
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2006.07.11 17:51:00 -
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i like doing 800 damage with my rage cruise. bomber 4tw
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
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Posted - 2006.07.11 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Dark Shikari Does your Raven really need to move at all?
IT does if there's a Dread shooting at you.
so then why are you using precision missles?
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