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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Originally by: MellaRinn
Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Originally by: Shaelin Corpius
Expanded cargo II
Theres a very good reason why this bpo has never been seeded...
what is it
Also, WCS II is not going to be seeded (most probably) as there exist two already and they have been awarded as prize items in the latest anniversary event:)
You thought the Cap recharger 2s were expensive and there was a cartel on them? Who doesnt use cargo expanders?????
me 
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Dagda Dia meaning the BPOs are still there ??
Meaning we got screwed by CCP and people with multiple research alts.
breaking one of your own rulesfor posting I see. I guess it was inevitable you would drop to our 'common' level.
As one of those with research alts, (not gona tell you how many :P) I can tell you that this is not the case for me anyway. But it is a probability that those with more R&D agents will be more sucessful. If I put the effort, missions and training time, then of course I should be more likely to win than someone who just has one R&D agent. And as kail will bring use for those RP then its effort not wasted, there is no reason to panic.
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Eralus
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:46:00 -
[33]
Well, glad I spent 2 months training up a research character that I could have spent training something else.
Do I get my money back?
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Yves DeFleur
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:04:00 -
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I just hope all the time I have put into R&D with my 2 accounts hasn't been wasted. I'd like to be able to use the accumulated RP's for something worthwhile down the road.
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Puca
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:30:00 -
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 I was looking at at least 2 more months of "possible" wining a BPO. Now I will to wait for the guys that have had agents for 2-3 years to burn up thier RPs so I have a chance of biding on and wining a BPO under the Kali (?) system.
I am an Alt looking for my own way.
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:49:00 -
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It's just a patience thing folks.
CCP have got plans (tm) for research in Kali. So your RP points can be used then.
I'd imagine they are waiting to see what happens in the medium to long term after these plans before they increase the number of blueprints for things like HACs CR2s and cloaks.
As for them re-releasing destroyed blueprints, fingers crossed they do that at some point in the future.
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Indomitus Rex
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:51:00 -
[37]
BUMP.
Deutschland. |

Caethes Adain
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm CCP have got plans (tm) for research in Kali. So your RP points can be used then.
Personally, I'd be quite happy with a limited run BPC, maybe 2 run just so that I could actually use the skills I trained.
Limited run bpc.
c'mon.
Please?
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:10:00 -
[39]
Know someone who got like 5 ammo prints in in a short while. A bit Crazy -)
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:50:00 -
[40]
I want to play! I want to play!
/me does a dance and starts training industry to 4
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mrg29
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:53:00 -
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CCP what were u thinking of?
u should obviously have kept seeding more bpos until everyone who has an r&d agent got one. -
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Otiluke
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:14:00 -
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I would like to point out that CCP has not done anything mischievious or evil. AFAIK, BPO's have always come out in batches, and all available BPO's have now run out....There will be more in the future. You could say that it's just bad timing for those that are just now starting research agents, BUT you could also say it's good timing, because now they'll have some points built up to use with the Kali improvements. The research system has always kinda sucked. Kali will fix that (at least somewhat.)
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Otiluke I would like to point out that CCP has not done anything mischievious or evil. AFAIK, BPO's have always come out in batches, and all available BPO's have now run out....There will be more in the future. You could say that it's just bad timing for those that are just now starting research agents, BUT you could also say it's good timing, because now they'll have some points built up to use with the Kali improvements. The research system has always kinda sucked. Kali will fix that (at least somewhat.)
As I try tell people who moan about it ingame. "You research for the future, not what already been handed out"
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shaelin Corpius what happened to these prints then.
Expanded cargo II Inertia Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal II Warp Scrambler II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webbifier II WCS II Cap Power Relay II Sheild Boost Amplifier II Heavy Nosferatu II
Sure theres some more as well I didn't list.
heh, how about the cargo exapnder I bpo?
tralala -- Talking in circles is more dizzying than walking in them... tralala
For Sale For Isk
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Maj Woodcock
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Otiluke I would like to point out that CCP has not done anything mischievious or evil........
Then how could ALL agents run out of BPOs between Tuesday and Thursday???
I had a lot of choices, up to 20 BPOs for missles and rockets and such on the agents I was training for on Tuesday but by the time I had the training finished Thursday night, they were all gone.
I just find it very strange it all happen at once, like they removed them during DT or something. Or issued them but then escrow would be full of pepole sell them, and I haven't seen that happen yet.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands,hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H. L. Mencken
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voogru
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.15 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ris Dnalor
Originally by: Shaelin Corpius what happened to these prints then.
Expanded cargo II Inertia Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal II Warp Scrambler II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webbifier II WCS II Cap Power Relay II Sheild Boost Amplifier II Heavy Nosferatu II
Sure theres some more as well I didn't list.
heh, how about the cargo exapnder I bpo?
tralala
The cargo expander I bpo exists, theres 20 of them.
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mrg29
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maj Woodcock
Originally by: Otiluke I would like to point out that CCP has not done anything mischievious or evil........
Then how could ALL agents run out of BPOs between Tuesday and Thursday???
I had a lot of choices, up to 20 BPOs for missles and rockets and such on the agents I was training for on Tuesday but by the time I had the training finished Thursday night, they were all gone.
I just find it very strange it all happen at once, like they removed them during DT or something. Or issued them but then escrow would be full of pepole sell them, and I haven't seen that happen yet.
because during the static update that took place on the wednesday the information associated with each of the research fields was updated.
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Zandramus
Pencil Protectors
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:20:00 -
[48]
people chill t2 bpos are supose to be special
NOT EVERYONE WILL GET ONE
and u dont even have todo anything except train a fer skills and pay 40m isk for a skill book
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:57:00 -
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The devs decide how many BPO of each type will be available. They drop them into the lottery. Every hour or couple of hours the lottery takes place. The winner gets an evemail with the offer, valid for a week or five days. The BPO is removed from the list of available BPO at the next DT. If he doesn't accept in time, the BPO drops back into the lottery and reappears in the list with the next DT.
Rumour: Destroyed BPO are reseeded.
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Indomitus Rex
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: mrg29 CCP what were u thinking of?
u should obviously have kept seeding more bpos until everyone who has an r&d agent got one.
Seriously. . .can I smack you upside your thick head?
People understand it is a lottery, but it is rather lame to be a new player. . .train up the skills. . .grind the missions. . .and then find out that your .000000000001% chance of getting a T2 BPO went to 0% because there are none. . .period.
Who knows how long until Kali is out? 6 months? A year? And when Kali does get here there is STILL a HUGE chance I won't ever receive one.
If CCP wanted to make the R/D thing a pipe-dream they've done a great job. How hard would it be to throw out some worthwhile BPCs? Heck, maybe they could even let the agents hand out rare ships. . .heck, unrare ships for all I care. At least that way you get something for all your time and effort. Is that too much to ask? Deutschland. |

Indomitus Rex
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus people chill t2 bpos are supose to be special
NOT EVERYONE WILL GET ONE
and u dont even have todo anything except train a fer skills and pay 40m isk for a skill book
If I hadn't been spending this time training skills for R/D I would be able to fly a HAC right now. . .
Science 5 Research 5 Multiple Research Skills to 4 then if you'd like RPM to 4 or w/e
plus you have to grind COSMOS missions/lvl 3s until 6.7 standing (at least w/ Lai Dai for the nicest agent)
So is it a lifelong investment or something? No. Is it a significant amount of time/effort? I'd say yes.
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Robinete Broadhead
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:55:00 -
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Seems to me that the Devs said at the Eve Gathering in March that the BPO action would be a one time thing, mainly to get rid of most of the RPs.
(I repalayed the podcast today and Overue did say that )
So does that mean RPs will become totaly useless after that?? Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp. Forum *snip* Please don not attempt to evade the profanity-filter. - Ivan K Market Watcher and buyer.
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Tao Han
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:59:00 -
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As has been said before, they could throw some 1 to 5 run BPC's into the lottery...
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 09:23:00 -
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While I had nothing predictable shown in Graviton Physics, I got awarded a Precision Cruise BPO (25K RP) just 2 days ago
"2006.07.16 19:43 Our research has been fruitful. "
This means either someone was awarded a BPO but never got to accept it and so it was put back into the pool, or the predictable BPO list is bugged. Unlikely as there are no bugs in Eve. 
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Megan Ryder
VentureCorp CORE.
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Posted - 2006.07.19 09:48:00 -
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to some of the newer R&D peeps complaining about no bpos being left...
GET IN LINE!
ffs, I've had a research agent since 1 month after they were introduced. In that time there have been at least 3 major updates/bpo releases. I haven't had a single offer yet.
It's a lottery, and the good prizes come and go, with no guarantee that you'll win anything at all.
Get used to it, or train something else, taking a 'me me me' attitude will only disapoint.
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Garden Knome
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Posted - 2006.07.19 09:54:00 -
[56]
Got Gremlin Rage BPO yesterday, from my lvl2 agent that I started and forgot about!
The field was laser physics, it was æNothing easily PredicableÆ as well.
But I donÆt mind means I can start a better agent and leave that running for another 2years..

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Lufio II
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Maj Woodcock
 So did CCP issue over 20 + BPOs since Monday, last time I checked my R&D agents, or just remove all un-issued prints??
They could of at leaste posted a BLOG on what they were doing.
No, those BPOs where given out over a course of Months (since RMR release)... Actually it happened before (end of 2005 was sort of barren, too), so nothing special to be honest :)
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