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Xartarous
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:12:00 -
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Hello Folks, small question...
Is it possible to destroy a giant secure container, and if so will the person/corp that launched it be notified?
Also, if it is possible, does anyone know how long it would actually take?
Sincerely
Isaac
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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:14:00 -
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Yes you can, no the owner will not be notified, an it will take a while on your own; they ahve a lot of hp.
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sableye
O.R.C. Outrage Compliant
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:43:00 -
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they don;nt have as much hp as they used to though, my advice is get a ship with some lasers leave it shooting and go afk.
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Xartarous
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:19:00 -
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Thanks for the advice guys. Wish I didn't have to do it, but... 
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Xartarous
Thanks for the advice guys. Wish I didn't have to do it, but...
If the reason for your necessity is that it's parked at a moon and you want to put up a POS, you can petition to have it removed, I think. (Doing this with cans deliberately to block POS installation is against the rules; there's a bunch of cans still parked at moons from before POS even existed, but I think they'd still be removed if necessary.)
If it's for any other reason .... go have fun. 
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: sableye
they don;nt have as much hp as they used to though, my advice is get a ship with some lasers leave it shooting and go afk.
They don't? Cool!
IIRC they used to have something like 10.5 million HP. In the "old" days took forever to kill one even with a fleet so most never bothered.
If they reduced the HP and you have a Dread maybe one could be taken out solo in a reasonable amount of time.
If you try it post back and let us know how it goes.
Question: Does shooting a can flag you? Will CONCORD gank you if it is in hi sec?
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iqplayer
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Xartarous
Hello Folks, small question...
Also, if it is possible, does anyone know how long it would actually take?
Sincerely
Isaac
Since everybody else has answered the first question(s), I'll add a little info to the second. A single Dread (well, I can speak at least for the Revelation) in siege mode can take out a GSC in under 5 minutes, even without uber skills. Out of siege mode - well, that would be silly since cans don't move and siege is what Dreads are made for right?
I've also used two BS to take out a GSC, and a high damage setup Machariel/Armageddon combo will take out a GSC in under 10 minutes.
Fighters don't shoot at GSC's at all, so don't bother trying a carrier. Anything under a BS is probably wasting time, although possibly some of the high damage T2 cruisers/BC's wouldn't be too bad.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:11:00 -
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Geddons are king tbh. Don't want to be wasting ammo, and 4-5 of them eat one fast.
The amounts of HP on them are stupid though...
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Xartarous
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:58:00 -
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Thanks all. I will probably try petitioning first, but If that doesn't work I'll have to try blowing it up. Alas, I don't have a BS handly so a cruiser will have to do 
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:06:00 -
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Use an ibis. No ammo wastage, go afk, don't worry about losing an expensive ship. :D
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Xartarous
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Use an ibis. No ammo wastage, go afk, don't worry about losing an expensive ship. :D
Hahaha, I bet that would take days
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 14/07/2006 22:13:12
Originally by: Xartarous
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Use an ibis. No ammo wastage, go afk, don't worry about losing an expensive ship. :D
Hahaha, I bet that would take days
Nah, just fit two civillian guns to it instead of one and you'd be rockin' :D
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Infinity Ziona
The First Noble Truth
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 14/07/2006 22:19:58
You dont need a dread. I blew one up on the test server with a Raven, a full set of Arb Seige, 5 t2 BCS and 737 torpedos of the thousand I took along.
I was going to start a can removal service but then I realised that most of the old cans were NPC corp owned and therefore untouchable in safe space.
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Xartarous
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 14/07/2006 22:19:58
You dont need a dread. I blew one up on the test server with a Raven, a full set of Arb Seige, 5 t2 BCS and 737 torpedos of the thousand I took along.
I was going to start a can removal service but then I realised that most of the old cans were NPC corp owned and therefore untouchable in safe space.
WOW it took 737 Torps, man I've got a long night ahead of me then 
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Sensor Error
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.14 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
Originally by: sableye
they don;nt have as much hp as they used to though, my advice is get a ship with some lasers leave it shooting and go afk.
They don't? Cool!
IIRC they used to have something like 10.5 million HP. In the "old" days took forever to kill one even with a fleet so most never bothered.
If they reduced the HP and you have a Dread maybe one could be taken out solo in a reasonable amount of time.
If you try it post back and let us know how it goes.
Question: Does shooting a can flag you? Will CONCORD gank you if it is in hi sec?
I remember one time when we had a 60+ man fleet, all bs geared for heavy hitting. Took us 45 minutes to bring it down...
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:03:00 -
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You will get criminally flagged for doing this so be aware. (Concord in highsec and sentries in lowsec)
They take a decently long time to kill. Infinity's 700 odd torps sounds about right.
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Xartarous
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:16:00 -
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Ah, operation complete 
I had two containers to destroy, so the entire process took about 6 hours. 
For the first container I used a destroyer fitted with small beam lasers and cap rechargers to blast it, while I was AFK happily watching SG1 and Atlantis  . It took about 4 hours for the destroyer to pop the container.
For the next container I used an Osprey fitted with Medium Beam lasers, cap rechargers, etc. It completed the task in about 2 1/2 hours.
Definitely a time-consuming endeavor, but not quite as bad as I had feared. Thanks a bunch sableye for suggesting the use of lasers, as it would have been way harder to pull off without them.
Thanks everyone for your comments and ideas...
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