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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy rabbit killer's inc
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:39:00 -
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Any ideas? preferably Amarr as that is what i fly, or Caldary.
only viable ships i could think could do this would be a Raven with jammers or a curse(with some luck).
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F4ze
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:54:00 -
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I pulled it off before in a AC-pest with injector.
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:55:00 -
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armageddon, stay out of nos range, megapulse and 5 heavy drones
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Wrayeth
PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin armageddon, stay out of nos range, megapulse and 5 heavy drones
You can't stay out of his nos range - nos range is 21km with tech 1 heavy nos, and the range of a warp disruptor is only 20km. If you attack from outside of 20km, the domi will just warp off if you start beating him - assuming you can maintain your range in the first place. Some nos domis mount MWD, and I've seen very few 'geddons with one. -Wrayeth
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Benglada
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin armageddon, stay out of nos range, megapulse and 5 heavy drones
approved, use 5x heavy ecm drones though. ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote.. 
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Wrayeth
PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn Any ideas? preferably Amarr as that is what i fly, or Caldary.
only viable ships i could think could do this would be a Raven with jammers or a curse(with some luck).
Your best bet is to jam him, and have cap injectors in case your jammers fail. If you do it in a raven, however, you're going to run into problems - his drones can kill you before you kill him, even if he's jammed. The only time an ECM raven can effectively beat a nos domi is when the raven get's the domi jammed before the domi launches drones - after that, as long as you don't activate any new modules the drones won't attack. -Wrayeth
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Mogrin armageddon, stay out of nos range, megapulse and 5 heavy drones
You can't stay out of his nos range - nos range is 21km with tech 1 heavy nos, and the range of a warp disruptor is only 20km. If you attack from outside of 20km, the domi will just warp off if you start beating him - assuming you can maintain your range in the first place. Some nos domis mount MWD, and I've seen very few 'geddons with one.
Oh, if you are looking for an a ship that beats nosdomi in its strongest domain, then you have to outnos it and attack its drones. Nosgeddon should be able to do this. 7 heavy nos AB, webber, scrambler 4 hardeners, 1 t2 LAR, and whatever else Take 5 medium drones and the rest as lights, cause you're gonna have to blow up everything he throws out or else he'll kill your drones and you'll never be able to kill him.
Would take forever and a day, but droneless and capless, you'll eventually beat him at his own game.
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin
Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Mogrin armageddon, stay out of nos range, megapulse and 5 heavy drones
You can't stay out of his nos range - nos range is 21km with tech 1 heavy nos, and the range of a warp disruptor is only 20km. If you attack from outside of 20km, the domi will just warp off if you start beating him - assuming you can maintain your range in the first place. Some nos domis mount MWD, and I've seen very few 'geddons with one.
Oh, if you are looking for an a ship that beats nosdomi in its strongest domain, then you have to outnos it and attack its drones. Nosgeddon should be able to do this. 7 heavy nos AB, webber, scrambler 4 hardeners, 1 t2 LAR, and whatever else Take 5 medium drones and the rest as lights, cause you're gonna have to blow up everything he throws out or else he'll kill your drones and you'll never be able to kill him.
Would take forever and a day, but droneless and capless, you'll eventually beat him at his own game.
and if he will use ecm ?
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:56:00 -
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Then pack megapulse and stay out of his Gdamn nos range. In every situation there is a ship that will reign supreme, dominix is best at upclose 1v1. If you are looking for a ship that can stop a domi from warping and defeat it in all situations and setups, you aren't gonna find it.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:04:00 -
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Another vampadomi... with enough backups to actually prevent him of using his ecm as warp away ticket.
Passive tanked raven should give him hard time, also 1 wcs if he jams too much will make him cry. If you really don't like stabs, 2x ECCM on lows. --------- Boost caldari. It will reduce whining on forums due to the fact: 45% chars are mostly caldari specialized. |

Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:11:00 -
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Burn Eden Raven with javelin torps and an Arazu tackler  Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |

Kata Dakini
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:32:00 -
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Something I've been wondering for awhile but haven't tested, regarding ECM bursts.
Lets say you're packing ECM and ECM burst.
Lets assume the drone ship locked you and released drones. If you ECM the drone ship, ok well the drones will still attack. If you fire your ECM burst to get the drones off you, will they relock you and attack even if the mother ship doesn't have a lock on you? ___
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Epsilon 1
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2006.07.15 10:10:00 -
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plated autotempty 800mm with hail, any dual reppin bs goes down in 40-55 seconds.
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Bigben
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:21:00 -
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why not use a phoon??
3 large smartbombs
3 heavy nosf
2 dual 650s
2 cap injecters scrabler ab
1 lar 1 mar
3 active hardeners
2 BACK UP LARDAR JAMMERS
with this its easy, once he lets out his drones you bombard them with the 3 smartbombs and dont worry about your cap because your nosiing him, unless your jammed, you can just inject yourslef in cap.
and you have your 5t2 beserkers working on him too..
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Shi Mun
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:00:00 -
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I would use a raven with rage torps, jammers and 3 bcu's in lows. You dont really need your cap except for the jammers. ------------------------------------------------------- Read my EW suggestions here:- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=304925&page=28 |

Xendie
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:24:00 -
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raven and a rook 100k+ out jamming :)
Originally by: F'nog This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie raven and a rook 100k+ out jamming :)
Thread is about solo 
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Ryysa
Total Failure
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 15/07/2006 13:43:07 hm... the only time i've beaten a domi with my ecm raven was when it was using t1 drones and i was using t2 fury cruise... so it wasn't exactly fair...
The problem withe the domi is, that it can have ECM and NOS and TANK...
There is a way to kill him though.... you need to exploit the fact that his only damage are drones. => Smartbombs.
A raven having 3+ smartbombs, and a moderate shieldtank can handle it...
Alternatively you could go something like...
4x Siege II, 4x smartbombs 3-4 ECM [racial, since you know what you are fighting], scram, cap injector... Lar II, 2x eanm II, 2x 1600mm plates...
Not 100% if it fits or not... but that's the general idea...
Just make sure you don't smartbomb your own torps.
If you kill a domis drones, there's nothing he can damage you with... remember that. And a raven doesn't need any cap to fire, so even if you run out of charges because of all the nos and smartbombs, you will still have eliminated all of his dmg output.
Just an idea...
Edit: came up with this with quickfit HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [1000 | 57] Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I > [1000 | 57] Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I > [1000 | 57] Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I > [1000 | 57] Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I > [1838 | 66] Siege Missile Launcher II > [1838 | 66] Siege Missile Launcher II > [1313 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II > [1313 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ > [1750 | 40] Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I > [ 1 | 32] Faint Warp Prohibitor I > [ 1 | 40] 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I > [ 1 | 40] 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I > [ 1 | 40] 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I > [ 1 | 40] 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ > [ 500 | 28] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I > [ 0 | 16] Reactor Control Unit II > [ 500 | 28] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I > [ 2 | 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II > [ 1 | 17] Internal Force Field Array I
The cap injector is to run the smartbombs.... and you have to make sure you kill his drones fast, because your tank is passive.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Mogrin armageddon, stay out of nos range, megapulse and 5 heavy drones
You can't stay out of his nos range - nos range is 21km with tech 1 heavy nos, and the range of a warp disruptor is only 20km. If you attack from outside of 20km, the domi will just warp off if you start beating him - assuming you can maintain your range in the first place. Some nos domis mount MWD, and I've seen very few 'geddons with one.
how many heavy nos can you fit on your domi?... if the armageddon has at least 1 nos on adn a cap inj his cap will be fine...
Apart from that anything setup to gank should normally d othe trick 
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa Edited by: Ryysa on 15/07/2006 13:37:29 hm... the only time i've beaten a domi with my ecm raven was when it was using t1 drones and i was using t2 fury cruise... so it wasn't exactly fair...
The problem withe the domi is, that it can have ECM and NOS and TANK...
There is a way to kill him though.... you need to exploit the fact that his only damage are drones. => Smartbombs.
A raven having 3+ smartbombs, and a moderate shieldtank can handle it...
Alternatively you could go something like...
4x Siege II, 4x smartbombs 3-4 ECM [racial, since you know what you are fighting], scram, cap injector... Lar II, 2x eanm II, 2x 1600mm plates...
Not 100% if it fits or not... but that's the general idea...
Just make sure you don't smartbomb your own torps.
If you kill a domis drones, there's nothing he can damage you with... remember that. And a raven doesn't need any cap to fire, so even if you run out of charges because of all the nos and smartbombs, you will still have eliminated all of his dmg output.
Just an idea...
smarties and torps 
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Ryysa
Total Failure
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:44:00 -
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that's why i wrote "don't smartbomb your own torps" You really only need to use the smartbombs to *****his drones, after that's done, he will be helpless.
Then you can turn on your launchers and turn off your smartbombs, seems logical... also gives instant podding experience :P
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Terrak2
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:44:00 -
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Use an apoc or geddon with 4 smartbombs and the rest guns.
In the mids fit a cap booster and 1-2 ECCM
in the lows fit a decent tank (could prolly do with just 1 rep) and cap mods.
Should easily beat most vampdoms solo. The main problem would be breaking his tank but with 4 guns and all your drones, you should be able to, as he won't be able to fire back except nos. Just don't launch the drones then use your smartbombs. 
Of course you could do it easier with ECM, but ECM is for pussies.  -- Terror Legion - Recruiting |

DarkElf
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 14:08:00 -
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Well i recently had a fully honoured 1v1 with a great guy called 'noph'. I was in my vampadom which i found very few can beat 1v1 but he came out in a passive shield tanked ishtar with t2 heavy drones. I wasn't getting any cap from him as his was empty and his passive tank held up better than my active without cap (should have injected ) and jamming him did nothing obviously. I believe he has about 18k shield hp which lasted real nice with what he had on. All in all a great fight. at last something can beat the dom. Oh and in regards to ppl saying stay out of nos range. great idea but u'll obviously need a faction disruptor to pull it off. true sansha 28km one's a good for a good price.
DE
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madaluap
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Ryysa Edited by: Ryysa on 15/07/2006 13:37:29 hm... the only time i've beaten a domi with my ecm raven was when it was using t1 drones and i was using t2 fury cruise... so it wasn't exactly fair...
The problem withe the domi is, that it can have ECM and NOS and TANK...
There is a way to kill him though.... you need to exploit the fact that his only damage are drones. => Smartbombs.
A raven having 3+ smartbombs, and a moderate shieldtank can handle it...
Alternatively you could go something like...
4x Siege II, 4x smartbombs 3-4 ECM [racial, since you know what you are fighting], scram, cap injector... Lar II, 2x eanm II, 2x 1600mm plates...
Not 100% if it fits or not... but that's the general idea...
Just make sure you don't smartbomb your own torps.
If you kill a domis drones, there's nothing he can damage you with... remember that. And a raven doesn't need any cap to fire, so even if you run out of charges because of all the nos and smartbombs, you will still have eliminated all of his dmg output.
Just an idea...
smarties and torps 
I believe your own smartsbombs dont hurt your own missiles though... _________________________________________________
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DeadRow
Cell Block 4
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: F4ze I pulled it off before in a AC-pest with injector.
Best bet imo. AC-pest can do good dmg and doesnt need cap for guns, also fit passive hardeners and get your armour comp skills up so you only need cap for your repairer/scrams. CCP nerfed my sig: Maxell Snow > holy crap i just realized the only t2 component i have used is a t2 mining laser here |

Strong Bubba
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow
Originally by: F4ze I pulled it off before in a AC-pest with injector.
Best bet imo. AC-pest can do good dmg and doesnt need cap for guns, also fit passive hardeners and get your armour comp skills up so you only need cap for your repairer/scrams.
yes yes but without t2 the tempest will be dead 80% of the time, while the dominix carrying t1 drones and having the 'classic' ***arse ***** setup will win.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin
Oh, if you are looking for an a ship that beats nosdomi in its strongest domain, then you have to outnos it and attack its drones. Nosgeddon should be able to do this. 7 heavy nos AB, webber, scrambler 4 hardeners, 1 t2 LAR, and whatever else Take 5 medium drones and the rest as lights, cause you're gonna have to blow up everything he throws out or else he'll kill your drones and you'll never be able to kill him.
Would take forever and a day, but droneless and capless, you'll eventually beat him at his own game.
You honestly think one t2 repper will tank a domi? It won't.
On top of this good luck killing his drones a) You can't lock them because you are jammed. b) Domi gets 10% bonus to drone durability per level - they have a LOT of HP (2k + with decent skills) c) Any domi pilot worth his sauce will recall a semi damaged drone to drone bay and get insta shield recharge.
In short, this setup wont work.
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DeadRow
Cell Block 4
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Strong Bubba
yes yes but without t2 the tempest will be dead 80% of the time, while the dominix carrying t1 drones and having the 'classic' ***arse ***** setup will win.
If you have decent gunnery skill/drone skills on your tempest a using t1 fitting vs a total NOS domi with decent drone skills with t1 fitting. I see no reason why you cant kill him. Unless he has ECM (which he probably would), but then again you can fit at least 1 Multispec on a tempest too.
CCP nerfed my sig: Maxell Snow > holy crap i just realized the only t2 component i have used is a t2 mining laser here |

Strong Bubba
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow
Originally by: Strong Bubba
yes yes but without t2 the tempest will be dead 80% of the time, while the dominix carrying t1 drones and having the 'classic' ***arse ***** setup will win.
If you have decent gunnery skill/drone skills on your tempest a using t1 fitting vs a total NOS domi with decent drone skills with t1 fitting. I see no reason why you cant kill him. Unless he has ECM (which he probably would), but then again you can fit at least 1 Multispec on a tempest too.
'probably'. He has ecm; you won't be able to break his tank, 1 multispect won't help you as you are already jammed and running out of cap boosters, runnning those 2 reps. Theory is ****, practice is all that matters, go out there and learn.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:40:00 -
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nos/torp phoon with ecm drones and 2 multispecs for good measure.
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